🚀 go-pugleaf

I think you might be SOL on your questions as far as GLQuake is concerned. 
There are a few other ports out there that may support what you are looking 
for, including:
    GLX Pro
    Nehahra (a lot of fun)
http://www.planetquake.com/nehahra/xstory.html
    Tenabrae
http://tenebrae.sourceforge.net/
    Fuhquake
http://www.fuhquake.net/

G.

"BelPowerslave" <Belpowerslave@ev1.net> wrote in message 
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> 'ello all,
>
> With Quake 4 being released today, I know I have a pretty slim chance
> of getting this topic noticed, but I thought I'd give it a shot anyway.
> :)
>
> I just installed Quake on Windows XP last night. It was the latest
> release(1.09) and came with Quake, WinQuake and glQuake. Of course, I
> had to update glQuake, pitch the damn opengl.dll thing, etc, but I got
> it to work. Being relatively new to Windows, I had a little bit of a
> hard time with that bullshit "command line resolution change" thing
> that gl makes you do(why couldn't they have let you do this in the
> game, like the Mac version does?)...but I got past it(found a post
> talking about creating a text document with the res. change screen,
> then saving it as ".bat").
>
> My questions are:
>
> 1. Can glQuake achieve any higher res than 1024X768? Anytime I try
> *anything* higher I get something along the lines of "resolution not
> supported". I was playing Mac Quake at 1280X1024...I find it hard to
> believe that the PC version couldn't do that same...
>
> 2. The sound sampling rate...11025? You've got to be fucking kidding
> me. Is it possible to jack that up to, at least, 22100 or
> even(hopefully) 44100? If so, is this something I'd put in the same
> ".bat" document I had to make up to get glQuake to run in 1024X768?
>
> Just in case it's needed, I'm running Windows XP Home Ed., SP2 on a P4
> 3ghz with 1.2 gigs of ram, a SoundBlaster Live 24bit card and an AiW
> Radeon 9800.
>
> Any help would be most appreciated...I loved Quake back on the Mac, but
> do to this new monitor I've bought, believe it or not, it simply won't
> run(the screen and refresh rate change crashes it every time). Am
> loving Quake on the PC, would just like to jack up the options as much
> as possible. :)
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Bel
> 

"BelPowerslave" <Belpowerslave@ev1.net> wrote in 
news:1129665851.728331.244430@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:


> I just installed Quake on Windows XP last night. It was the latest
> release(1.09) and came with Quake, WinQuake and glQuake. Of course, I
> had to update glQuake, pitch the damn opengl.dll thing, etc, but I got
> it to work. Being relatively new to Windows, I had a little bit of a
> hard time with that bullshit "command line resolution change" thing
> that gl makes you do(why couldn't they have let you do this in the
> game, like the Mac version does?)...but I got past it(found a post
> talking about creating a text document with the res. change screen,
> then saving it as ".bat").
> 
> My questions are:
> 
> 1. Can glQuake achieve any higher res than 1024X768? Anytime I try
> *anything* higher I get something along the lines of "resolution not
> supported". I was playing Mac Quake at 1280X1024...I find it hard to
> believe that the PC version couldn't do that same...

I just now reinstalled it for nostalgia reasons. Hopefully there's some net 
activity for DM.

I'm trying to edit the config.cfg file and add a .bat file but so far no 
luck. My recollection after almost 8 years is nil.

> 2. The sound sampling rate...11025? You've got to be fucking kidding
> me. Is it possible to jack that up to, at least, 22100 or
> even(hopefully) 44100? If so, is this something I'd put in the same
> ".bat" document I had to make up to get glQuake to run in 1024X768?

This from one of the Quake .txt files:

SSPEED
  Syntax: -sspeed <speed>
  Description: This will ask the sound code to set the playback speed
    within the constraints of the capabilities of the card.  This is
	11025 Hz by default and usually from 8000 to 44100.  Making this
	faster requires more CPU horsepower, and has no actual benefits,
	because the sounds only contain 11 KHz data.  Making this slower
	degrades sound quality, but improves performance and saves memory.

> Any help would be most appreciated...I loved Quake back on the Mac, but
> do to this new monitor I've bought, believe it or not, it simply won't
> run(the screen and refresh rate change crashes it every time). Am
> loving Quake on the PC, would just like to jack up the options as much
> as possible. :)

How do you set the mouselook to always be on? And how to adjust the gamma? 
It's way to dark. I'm running GLQuake.exe.

Bill M.

"Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message 
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> "BelPowerslave" <Belpowerslave@ev1.net> wrote in
> news:1129665851.728331.244430@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>> I just installed Quake on Windows XP last night. It was the latest
>> release(1.09) and came with Quake, WinQuake and glQuake. Of course, I
>> had to update glQuake, pitch the damn opengl.dll thing, etc, but I got
>> it to work. Being relatively new to Windows, I had a little bit of a
>> hard time with that bullshit "command line resolution change" thing
>> that gl makes you do(why couldn't they have let you do this in the
>> game, like the Mac version does?)...but I got past it(found a post
>> talking about creating a text document with the res. change screen,
>> then saving it as ".bat").
>>
>> My questions are:
>>
>> 1. Can glQuake achieve any higher res than 1024X768? Anytime I try
>> *anything* higher I get something along the lines of "resolution not
>> supported". I was playing Mac Quake at 1280X1024...I find it hard to
>> believe that the PC version couldn't do that same...
>
> I just now reinstalled it for nostalgia reasons. Hopefully there's some 
> net
> activity for DM.
>
> I'm trying to edit the config.cfg file and add a .bat file but so far no
> luck. My recollection after almost 8 years is nil.
>
>> 2. The sound sampling rate...11025? You've got to be fucking kidding
>> me. Is it possible to jack that up to, at least, 22100 or
>> even(hopefully) 44100? If so, is this something I'd put in the same
>> ".bat" document I had to make up to get glQuake to run in 1024X768?
>
> This from one of the Quake .txt files:
>
> SSPEED
>  Syntax: -sspeed <speed>
>  Description: This will ask the sound code to set the playback speed
>    within the constraints of the capabilities of the card.  This is
> 11025 Hz by default and usually from 8000 to 44100.  Making this
> faster requires more CPU horsepower, and has no actual benefits,
> because the sounds only contain 11 KHz data.  Making this slower
> degrades sound quality, but improves performance and saves memory.
>
>> Any help would be most appreciated...I loved Quake back on the Mac, but
>> do to this new monitor I've bought, believe it or not, it simply won't
>> run(the screen and refresh rate change crashes it every time). Am
>> loving Quake on the PC, would just like to jack up the options as much
>> as possible. :)
>
> How do you set the mouselook to always be on? And how to adjust the gamma?
> It's way to dark. I'm running GLQuake.exe.
>
> Bill M.

in the autoexec.cfg
Quake.
Aw man, hold this thread a bit, I gotta get a vid card in the other puter 
that has all that stuff installed and running.   I'll just post the contents 
of my autoexec.cfg file for ya'll.
McG. 

"McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in
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> 
> "Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message 
> news:Xns9701A0AE183B4wbmclexcitecom@65.24.3.135...
>> "BelPowerslave" <Belpowerslave@ev1.net> wrote in
>> news:1129665851.728331.244430@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>
>>> I just installed Quake on Windows XP last night. It was the latest
>>> release(1.09) and came with Quake, WinQuake and glQuake. Of course,
>>> I had to update glQuake, pitch the damn opengl.dll thing, etc, but I
>>> got it to work. Being relatively new to Windows, I had a little bit
>>> of a hard time with that bullshit "command line resolution change"
>>> thing that gl makes you do(why couldn't they have let you do this in
>>> the game, like the Mac version does?)...but I got past it(found a
>>> post talking about creating a text document with the res. change
>>> screen, then saving it as ".bat").
>>>
>>> My questions are:
>>>
>>> 1. Can glQuake achieve any higher res than 1024X768? Anytime I try
>>> *anything* higher I get something along the lines of "resolution not
>>> supported". I was playing Mac Quake at 1280X1024...I find it hard to
>>> believe that the PC version couldn't do that same...
>>
>> I just now reinstalled it for nostalgia reasons. Hopefully there's
>> some net
>> activity for DM.
>>
>> I'm trying to edit the config.cfg file and add a .bat file but so far
>> no luck. My recollection after almost 8 years is nil.
>>
>>> 2. The sound sampling rate...11025? You've got to be fucking kidding
>>> me. Is it possible to jack that up to, at least, 22100 or
>>> even(hopefully) 44100? If so, is this something I'd put in the same
>>> ".bat" document I had to make up to get glQuake to run in 1024X768?
>>
>> This from one of the Quake .txt files:
>>
>> SSPEED
>>  Syntax: -sspeed <speed>
>>  Description: This will ask the sound code to set the playback speed
>>    within the constraints of the capabilities of the card.  This is
>> 11025 Hz by default and usually from 8000 to 44100.  Making this
>> faster requires more CPU horsepower, and has no actual benefits,
>> because the sounds only contain 11 KHz data.  Making this slower
>> degrades sound quality, but improves performance and saves memory.
>>
>>> Any help would be most appreciated...I loved Quake back on the Mac,
>>> but do to this new monitor I've bought, believe it or not, it simply
>>> won't run(the screen and refresh rate change crashes it every time).
>>> Am loving Quake on the PC, would just like to jack up the options as
>>> much as possible. :)
>>
>> How do you set the mouselook to always be on? And how to adjust the
>> gamma? It's way to dark. I'm running GLQuake.exe.
>>
>> Bill M.
> 
> in the autoexec.cfg
> Quake.
> Aw man, hold this thread a bit, I gotta get a vid card in the other
> puter that has all that stuff installed and running.   I'll just post
> the contents of my autoexec.cfg file for ya'll.
> McG. 

I figured out the mouselook - it's +mlook. I completely forgot about 
that one. The GLQuake looks great, but I wish I had my old config. I 
think I had a right mouse click grenade launcher, left click regular 
weapon. And I had my name animated like crazy. Is there a resource for 
all the old quake commands? I've been looking around but not much any 
more.

Bill M.

"Bill M." wrote:

> Is there a resource for all the old quake commands?

Have you tried Planet Quake?  They still have most of the Quake files or
links to them.

http://www.planetquake.com/quake1/files.shtml

"Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message 
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> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in
> news:TNS9f.45361$Bf7.33138@tornado.texas.rr.com:
>
>>
>> "Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9701A0AE183B4wbmclexcitecom@65.24.3.135...
>>> "BelPowerslave" <Belpowerslave@ev1.net> wrote in
>>> news:1129665851.728331.244430@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I just installed Quake on Windows XP last night. It was the latest
>>>> release(1.09) and came with Quake, WinQuake and glQuake. Of course,
>>>> I had to update glQuake, pitch the damn opengl.dll thing, etc, but I
>>>> got it to work. Being relatively new to Windows, I had a little bit
>>>> of a hard time with that bullshit "command line resolution change"
>>>> thing that gl makes you do(why couldn't they have let you do this in
>>>> the game, like the Mac version does?)...but I got past it(found a
>>>> post talking about creating a text document with the res. change
>>>> screen, then saving it as ".bat").
>>>>
>>>> My questions are:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Can glQuake achieve any higher res than 1024X768? Anytime I try
>>>> *anything* higher I get something along the lines of "resolution not
>>>> supported". I was playing Mac Quake at 1280X1024...I find it hard to
>>>> believe that the PC version couldn't do that same...
>>>
>>> I just now reinstalled it for nostalgia reasons. Hopefully there's
>>> some net
>>> activity for DM.
>>>
>>> I'm trying to edit the config.cfg file and add a .bat file but so far
>>> no luck. My recollection after almost 8 years is nil.
>>>
>>>> 2. The sound sampling rate...11025? You've got to be fucking kidding
>>>> me. Is it possible to jack that up to, at least, 22100 or
>>>> even(hopefully) 44100? If so, is this something I'd put in the same
>>>> ".bat" document I had to make up to get glQuake to run in 1024X768?
>>>
>>> This from one of the Quake .txt files:
>>>
>>> SSPEED
>>>  Syntax: -sspeed <speed>
>>>  Description: This will ask the sound code to set the playback speed
>>>    within the constraints of the capabilities of the card.  This is
>>> 11025 Hz by default and usually from 8000 to 44100.  Making this
>>> faster requires more CPU horsepower, and has no actual benefits,
>>> because the sounds only contain 11 KHz data.  Making this slower
>>> degrades sound quality, but improves performance and saves memory.
>>>
>>>> Any help would be most appreciated...I loved Quake back on the Mac,
>>>> but do to this new monitor I've bought, believe it or not, it simply
>>>> won't run(the screen and refresh rate change crashes it every time).
>>>> Am loving Quake on the PC, would just like to jack up the options as
>>>> much as possible. :)
>>>
>>> How do you set the mouselook to always be on? And how to adjust the
>>> gamma? It's way to dark. I'm running GLQuake.exe.
>>>
>>> Bill M.
>>
>> in the autoexec.cfg
>> Quake.
>> Aw man, hold this thread a bit, I gotta get a vid card in the other
>> puter that has all that stuff installed and running.   I'll just post
>> the contents of my autoexec.cfg file for ya'll.
>> McG.
>
> I figured out the mouselook - it's +mlook. I completely forgot about
> that one. The GLQuake looks great, but I wish I had my old config. I
> think I had a right mouse click grenade launcher, left click regular
> weapon. And I had my name animated like crazy. Is there a resource for
> all the old quake commands? I've been looking around but not much any
> more.
>
> Bill M.

This site still works and has the kinda stuff you're looking for, I hope!
McG. 

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> 
> "Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message 
> news:Xns97027368AA1Cwbmclexcitecom@65.24.3.139...
>> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:TNS9f.45361$Bf7.33138@tornado.texas.rr.com:
>>
>>>
>>> "Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Xns9701A0AE183B4wbmclexcitecom@65.24.3.135...
>>>> "BelPowerslave" <Belpowerslave@ev1.net> wrote in
>>>> news:1129665851.728331.244430@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I just installed Quake on Windows XP last night. It was the latest
>>>>> release(1.09) and came with Quake, WinQuake and glQuake. Of
>>>>> course, I had to update glQuake, pitch the damn opengl.dll thing,
>>>>> etc, but I got it to work. Being relatively new to Windows, I had
>>>>> a little bit of a hard time with that bullshit "command line
>>>>> resolution change" thing that gl makes you do(why couldn't they
>>>>> have let you do this in the game, like the Mac version
>>>>> does?)...but I got past it(found a post talking about creating a
>>>>> text document with the res. change screen, then saving it as
>>>>> ".bat"). 
>>>>>
>>>>> My questions are:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Can glQuake achieve any higher res than 1024X768? Anytime I try
>>>>> *anything* higher I get something along the lines of "resolution
>>>>> not supported". I was playing Mac Quake at 1280X1024...I find it
>>>>> hard to believe that the PC version couldn't do that same...
>>>>
>>>> I just now reinstalled it for nostalgia reasons. Hopefully there's
>>>> some net
>>>> activity for DM.
>>>>
>>>> I'm trying to edit the config.cfg file and add a .bat file but so
>>>> far no luck. My recollection after almost 8 years is nil.
>>>>
>>>>> 2. The sound sampling rate...11025? You've got to be fucking
>>>>> kidding me. Is it possible to jack that up to, at least, 22100 or
>>>>> even(hopefully) 44100? If so, is this something I'd put in the
>>>>> same ".bat" document I had to make up to get glQuake to run in
>>>>> 1024X768? 
>>>>
>>>> This from one of the Quake .txt files:
>>>>
>>>> SSPEED
>>>>  Syntax: -sspeed <speed>
>>>>  Description: This will ask the sound code to set the playback
>>>>  speed 
>>>>    within the constraints of the capabilities of the card.  This is
>>>> 11025 Hz by default and usually from 8000 to 44100.  Making this
>>>> faster requires more CPU horsepower, and has no actual benefits,
>>>> because the sounds only contain 11 KHz data.  Making this slower
>>>> degrades sound quality, but improves performance and saves memory.
>>>>
>>>>> Any help would be most appreciated...I loved Quake back on the
>>>>> Mac, but do to this new monitor I've bought, believe it or not, it
>>>>> simply won't run(the screen and refresh rate change crashes it
>>>>> every time). Am loving Quake on the PC, would just like to jack up
>>>>> the options as much as possible. :)
>>>>
>>>> How do you set the mouselook to always be on? And how to adjust the
>>>> gamma? It's way to dark. I'm running GLQuake.exe.
>>>>
>>>> Bill M.
>>>
>>> in the autoexec.cfg
>>> Quake.
>>> Aw man, hold this thread a bit, I gotta get a vid card in the other
>>> puter that has all that stuff installed and running.   I'll just
>>> post the contents of my autoexec.cfg file for ya'll.
>>> McG.
>>
>> I figured out the mouselook - it's +mlook. I completely forgot about
>> that one. The GLQuake looks great, but I wish I had my old config. I
>> think I had a right mouse click grenade launcher, left click regular
>> weapon. And I had my name animated like crazy. Is there a resource
>> for all the old quake commands? I've been looking around but not much
>> any more.
>>
>> Bill M.
> 
> This site still works and has the kinda stuff you're looking for, I
> hope! McG. 
> 
> 
> 

What site? I'd like to bind some commands. I also need to find - if stil
out there - a quakeworld server or two. I d/led gamespy arcade and it
seems to indicate that there may be some activity but very infrequently.
No one was in a QW server when I booted in. 

For BelPowerSlave: I just edited my .bat file to boot quake into a
1280x1024 resolution and it worked fine on my PC. 

Bill M.

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> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in
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>
>>
>> "Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns97027368AA1Cwbmclexcitecom@65.24.3.139...
>>> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:TNS9f.45361$Bf7.33138@tornado.texas.rr.com:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:Xns9701A0AE183B4wbmclexcitecom@65.24.3.135...
>>>>> "BelPowerslave" <Belpowerslave@ev1.net> wrote in
>>>>> news:1129665851.728331.244430@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I just installed Quake on Windows XP last night. It was the latest
>>>>>> release(1.09) and came with Quake, WinQuake and glQuake. Of
>>>>>> course, I had to update glQuake, pitch the damn opengl.dll thing,
>>>>>> etc, but I got it to work. Being relatively new to Windows, I had
>>>>>> a little bit of a hard time with that bullshit "command line
>>>>>> resolution change" thing that gl makes you do(why couldn't they
>>>>>> have let you do this in the game, like the Mac version
>>>>>> does?)...but I got past it(found a post talking about creating a
>>>>>> text document with the res. change screen, then saving it as
>>>>>> ".bat").
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My questions are:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Can glQuake achieve any higher res than 1024X768? Anytime I try
>>>>>> *anything* higher I get something along the lines of "resolution
>>>>>> not supported". I was playing Mac Quake at 1280X1024...I find it
>>>>>> hard to believe that the PC version couldn't do that same...
>>>>>
>>>>> I just now reinstalled it for nostalgia reasons. Hopefully there's
>>>>> some net
>>>>> activity for DM.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm trying to edit the config.cfg file and add a .bat file but so
>>>>> far no luck. My recollection after almost 8 years is nil.
>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. The sound sampling rate...11025? You've got to be fucking
>>>>>> kidding me. Is it possible to jack that up to, at least, 22100 or
>>>>>> even(hopefully) 44100? If so, is this something I'd put in the
>>>>>> same ".bat" document I had to make up to get glQuake to run in
>>>>>> 1024X768?
>>>>>
>>>>> This from one of the Quake .txt files:
>>>>>
>>>>> SSPEED
>>>>>  Syntax: -sspeed <speed>
>>>>>  Description: This will ask the sound code to set the playback
>>>>>  speed
>>>>>    within the constraints of the capabilities of the card.  This is
>>>>> 11025 Hz by default and usually from 8000 to 44100.  Making this
>>>>> faster requires more CPU horsepower, and has no actual benefits,
>>>>> because the sounds only contain 11 KHz data.  Making this slower
>>>>> degrades sound quality, but improves performance and saves memory.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Any help would be most appreciated...I loved Quake back on the
>>>>>> Mac, but do to this new monitor I've bought, believe it or not, it
>>>>>> simply won't run(the screen and refresh rate change crashes it
>>>>>> every time). Am loving Quake on the PC, would just like to jack up
>>>>>> the options as much as possible. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> How do you set the mouselook to always be on? And how to adjust the
>>>>> gamma? It's way to dark. I'm running GLQuake.exe.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill M.
>>>>
>>>> in the autoexec.cfg
>>>> Quake.
>>>> Aw man, hold this thread a bit, I gotta get a vid card in the other
>>>> puter that has all that stuff installed and running.   I'll just
>>>> post the contents of my autoexec.cfg file for ya'll.
>>>> McG.
>>>
>>> I figured out the mouselook - it's +mlook. I completely forgot about
>>> that one. The GLQuake looks great, but I wish I had my old config. I
>>> think I had a right mouse click grenade launcher, left click regular
>>> weapon. And I had my name animated like crazy. Is there a resource
>>> for all the old quake commands? I've been looking around but not much
>>> any more.
>>>
>>> Bill M.
>>
>> This site still works and has the kinda stuff you're looking for, I
>> hope! McG.
>>
>>
>>
>
> What site? I'd like to bind some commands. I also need to find - if stil
> out there - a quakeworld server or two. I d/led gamespy arcade and it
> seems to indicate that there may be some activity but very infrequently.
> No one was in a QW server when I booted in.
>
> For BelPowerSlave: I just edited my .bat file to boot quake into a
> 1280x1024 resolution and it worked fine on my PC.
>
> Bill M.
Oops!  seems I forgot something ;)
http://www.users.bigpond.com/ajwood/quakeqw.htm
McG. 

"Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message 
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>
> What site? I'd like to bind some commands. I also need to find - if stil
> out there - a quakeworld server or two. I d/led gamespy arcade and it
> seems to indicate that there may be some activity but very infrequently.
> No one was in a QW server when I booted in.

There was a great site called quakeworld.nu that had become the center of 
online Quake activity (mostly Euro-based, but not entirely). This was where 
you'd find out about the tournaments still taking place (again, mostly in 
Europe), there were forums, and they hosted, among other things, a great 
download for Quake called eQuake, which consisted of FuhQuake (definitely 
the dominant version of QuakeWorld these days), The All-Seeing Eye (the 
generally preferred alternative to GameSpy), some of the most common Quake 
levels for online play and many useful utilities. Unfortunately it is down 
at the moment after the server got hacked. There was talk a couple of months 
back about it being ready to come up again, but I think it got hacked again 
and will be a while before it's available again (if ever). :(

eQuake is also available from ftp://ftp.yi.se/pub/software/equake/

George M. already posted a link to FuhQuake - if you want to play QuakeWorld 
online you should definitely be using FuhQuake. I think some of the 
competitions may actually require it. (You can also play single player with 
it.) OK, since I think this one is so important, here it is again: 
http://www.fuhquake.net/ But if you download eQuake, you won't need it 
separately. (BTW, I play FuhQuake with a very basic, standard QW appearance, 
rather than all the fancy new graphics.)

There are also some forums at http://www.quakeworld.us/forum/ that may be 
helpful (including one devoted to Configs/Scripting)

There's also one at Besmella-Quake: http://www.besmella-quake.com/forum/

Also check out http://qw.fragzone.se/

And for the latest demos (of various games), go to 
http://www.challenge-tv.com/ (QW demos are still the most popular, though 
most these days are actually .mvd - multi-view server-recorded demos 
playable on modern clients like FuhQuake, that allow you to switch between 
all views.)

Well that should get you started on the modern world of Quake. 

"Matthew Vaughan" <matt-no-spam-109@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote in message 
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> "Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message 
> news:Xns9702F36362812wbmclexcitecom@65.24.3.143...
>>
>> What site? I'd like to bind some commands. I also need to find - if stil
>> out there - a quakeworld server or two. I d/led gamespy arcade and it
>> seems to indicate that there may be some activity but very infrequently.
>> No one was in a QW server when I booted in.
>
> There was a great site called quakeworld.nu that had become the center of 
> online Quake activity (mostly Euro-based, but not entirely). This was 
> where you'd find out about the tournaments still taking place (again, 
> mostly in Europe), there were forums, and they hosted, among other things, 
> a great download for Quake called eQuake, which consisted of FuhQuake 
> (definitely the dominant version of QuakeWorld these days), The All-Seeing 
> Eye (the generally preferred alternative to GameSpy), some of the most 
> common Quake levels for online play and many useful utilities. 
> Unfortunately it is down at the moment after the server got hacked. There 
> was talk a couple of months back about it being ready to come up again, 
> but I think it got hacked again and will be a while before it's available 
> again (if ever). :(
>
> eQuake is also available from ftp://ftp.yi.se/pub/software/equake/
>
> George M. already posted a link to FuhQuake - if you want to play 
> QuakeWorld online you should definitely be using FuhQuake. I think some of 
> the competitions may actually require it. (You can also play single player 
> with it.) OK, since I think this one is so important, here it is again: 
> http://www.fuhquake.net/ But if you download eQuake, you won't need it 
> separately. (BTW, I play FuhQuake with a very basic, standard QW 
> appearance, rather than all the fancy new graphics.)
>
> There are also some forums at http://www.quakeworld.us/forum/ that may be 
> helpful (including one devoted to Configs/Scripting)
>
> There's also one at Besmella-Quake: http://www.besmella-quake.com/forum/
>
> Also check out http://qw.fragzone.se/
>
> And for the latest demos (of various games), go to 
> http://www.challenge-tv.com/ (QW demos are still the most popular, though 
> most these days are actually .mvd - multi-view server-recorded demos 
> playable on modern clients like FuhQuake, that allow you to switch between 
> all views.)
>
> Well that should get you started on the modern world of Quake.
>
not a one of these has the full feel of Quake/Quakeworld but GLQuake. 
GLQuake runs fine on my P4 and AMD64 rigs, both with nvidia cards.  If he 
gets into eQuake/FUHQuake he will have to use completely different commands 
and scripts.
McG. 

"McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in news:Bazaf.70762
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> 
> "Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message 
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>> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in
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>>
>>>
>>> "Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Xns97027368AA1Cwbmclexcitecom@65.24.3.139...
>>>> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in
>>>> news:TNS9f.45361$Bf7.33138@tornado.texas.rr.com:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Xns9701A0AE183B4wbmclexcitecom@65.24.3.135...
>>>>>> "BelPowerslave" <Belpowerslave@ev1.net> wrote in
>>>>>> news:1129665851.728331.244430@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just installed Quake on Windows XP last night. It was the latest
>>>>>>> release(1.09) and came with Quake, WinQuake and glQuake. Of
>>>>>>> course, I had to update glQuake, pitch the damn opengl.dll thing,
>>>>>>> etc, but I got it to work. Being relatively new to Windows, I had
>>>>>>> a little bit of a hard time with that bullshit "command line
>>>>>>> resolution change" thing that gl makes you do(why couldn't they
>>>>>>> have let you do this in the game, like the Mac version
>>>>>>> does?)...but I got past it(found a post talking about creating a
>>>>>>> text document with the res. change screen, then saving it as
>>>>>>> ".bat").
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My questions are:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. Can glQuake achieve any higher res than 1024X768? Anytime I try
>>>>>>> *anything* higher I get something along the lines of "resolution
>>>>>>> not supported". I was playing Mac Quake at 1280X1024...I find it
>>>>>>> hard to believe that the PC version couldn't do that same...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just now reinstalled it for nostalgia reasons. Hopefully there's
>>>>>> some net
>>>>>> activity for DM.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm trying to edit the config.cfg file and add a .bat file but so
>>>>>> far no luck. My recollection after almost 8 years is nil.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. The sound sampling rate...11025? You've got to be fucking
>>>>>>> kidding me. Is it possible to jack that up to, at least, 22100 or
>>>>>>> even(hopefully) 44100? If so, is this something I'd put in the
>>>>>>> same ".bat" document I had to make up to get glQuake to run in
>>>>>>> 1024X768?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This from one of the Quake .txt files:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SSPEED
>>>>>>  Syntax: -sspeed <speed>
>>>>>>  Description: This will ask the sound code to set the playback
>>>>>>  speed
>>>>>>    within the constraints of the capabilities of the card.  This is
>>>>>> 11025 Hz by default and usually from 8000 to 44100.  Making this
>>>>>> faster requires more CPU horsepower, and has no actual benefits,
>>>>>> because the sounds only contain 11 KHz data.  Making this slower
>>>>>> degrades sound quality, but improves performance and saves memory.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any help would be most appreciated...I loved Quake back on the
>>>>>>> Mac, but do to this new monitor I've bought, believe it or not, it
>>>>>>> simply won't run(the screen and refresh rate change crashes it
>>>>>>> every time). Am loving Quake on the PC, would just like to jack up
>>>>>>> the options as much as possible. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How do you set the mouselook to always be on? And how to adjust the
>>>>>> gamma? It's way to dark. I'm running GLQuake.exe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill M.
>>>>>
>>>>> in the autoexec.cfg
>>>>> Quake.
>>>>> Aw man, hold this thread a bit, I gotta get a vid card in the other
>>>>> puter that has all that stuff installed and running.   I'll just
>>>>> post the contents of my autoexec.cfg file for ya'll.
>>>>> McG.
>>>>
>>>> I figured out the mouselook - it's +mlook. I completely forgot about
>>>> that one. The GLQuake looks great, but I wish I had my old config. I
>>>> think I had a right mouse click grenade launcher, left click regular
>>>> weapon. And I had my name animated like crazy. Is there a resource
>>>> for all the old quake commands? I've been looking around but not much
>>>> any more.
>>>>
>>>> Bill M.
>>>
>>> This site still works and has the kinda stuff you're looking for, I
>>> hope! McG.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> What site? I'd like to bind some commands. I also need to find - if stil
>> out there - a quakeworld server or two. I d/led gamespy arcade and it
>> seems to indicate that there may be some activity but very infrequently.
>> No one was in a QW server when I booted in.
>>
>> For BelPowerSlave: I just edited my .bat file to boot quake into a
>> 1280x1024 resolution and it worked fine on my PC.
>>
>> Bill M.
> Oops!  seems I forgot something ;)
> http://www.users.bigpond.com/ajwood/quakeqw.htm
> McG. 
> 
> 

Thanks for the link McG. Blasts from the past: pushlatency and timedemo 
demo 2 I got 59.8 fps running at 1280x1024. Ideally, I'd like the ability 
to right click the bazooka, like I used to have.

Bill M.

"Matthew Vaughan" <matt-no-spam-109@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote in
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> "Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message 
> news:Xns9702F36362812wbmclexcitecom@65.24.3.143...
>>
>> What site? I'd like to bind some commands. I also need to find - if
>> stil out there - a quakeworld server or two. I d/led gamespy arcade
>> and it seems to indicate that there may be some activity but very
>> infrequently. No one was in a QW server when I booted in.
> 
> There was a great site called quakeworld.nu that had become the center
> of online Quake activity (mostly Euro-based, but not entirely). This
> was where you'd find out about the tournaments still taking place
> (again, mostly in Europe), there were forums, and they hosted, among
> other things, a great download for Quake called eQuake, which
> consisted of FuhQuake (definitely the dominant version of QuakeWorld
> these days), The All-Seeing Eye (the generally preferred alternative
> to GameSpy), some of the most common Quake levels for online play and
> many useful utilities. Unfortunately it is down at the moment after
> the server got hacked. There was talk a couple of months back about it
> being ready to come up again, but I think it got hacked again and will
> be a while before it's available again (if ever). :( 
> 
> eQuake is also available from ftp://ftp.yi.se/pub/software/equake/
> 
> George M. already posted a link to FuhQuake - if you want to play
> QuakeWorld online you should definitely be using FuhQuake. I think
> some of the competitions may actually require it. (You can also play
> single player with it.) OK, since I think this one is so important,
> here it is again: http://www.fuhquake.net/ But if you download eQuake,
> you won't need it separately. (BTW, I play FuhQuake with a very basic,
> standard QW appearance, rather than all the fancy new graphics.)
> 
> There are also some forums at http://www.quakeworld.us/forum/ that may
> be helpful (including one devoted to Configs/Scripting)
> 
> There's also one at Besmella-Quake:
> http://www.besmella-quake.com/forum/ 
> 
> Also check out http://qw.fragzone.se/
> 
> And for the latest demos (of various games), go to 
> http://www.challenge-tv.com/ (QW demos are still the most popular,
> though most these days are actually .mvd - multi-view server-recorded
> demos playable on modern clients like FuhQuake, that allow you to
> switch between all views.)
> 
> Well that should get you started on the modern world of Quake. 
> 
> 

Thanks for the info MV. I did d/l Fuhquake, but the screen is very dark 
- almost corrupted. I can't read the opening text at all due to the 
darkness. I can only get out by assuming ESC/up arrow/ENTER (for quit). 
I'm not sure why I have this issue, but I'll check the forums you 
mentioned.

Bill M.

"Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in 
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> "Matthew Vaughan" <matt-no-spam-109@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:R4Maf.2130$te3.33926@typhoon.sonic.net: 
> 
>> "Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message 
>> news:Xns9702F36362812wbmclexcitecom@65.24.3.143...
>>>
>>> What site? I'd like to bind some commands. I also need to find - if
>>> stil out there - a quakeworld server or two. I d/led gamespy arcade
>>> and it seems to indicate that there may be some activity but very
>>> infrequently. No one was in a QW server when I booted in.
>> 
>> There was a great site called quakeworld.nu that had become the center
>> of online Quake activity (mostly Euro-based, but not entirely). This
>> was where you'd find out about the tournaments still taking place
>> (again, mostly in Europe), there were forums, and they hosted, among
>> other things, a great download for Quake called eQuake, which
>> consisted of FuhQuake (definitely the dominant version of QuakeWorld
>> these days), The All-Seeing Eye (the generally preferred alternative
>> to GameSpy), some of the most common Quake levels for online play and
>> many useful utilities. Unfortunately it is down at the moment after
>> the server got hacked. There was talk a couple of months back about it
>> being ready to come up again, but I think it got hacked again and will
>> be a while before it's available again (if ever). :( 
>> 
>> eQuake is also available from ftp://ftp.yi.se/pub/software/equake/
>> 
>> George M. already posted a link to FuhQuake - if you want to play
>> QuakeWorld online you should definitely be using FuhQuake. I think
>> some of the competitions may actually require it. (You can also play
>> single player with it.) OK, since I think this one is so important,
>> here it is again: http://www.fuhquake.net/ But if you download eQuake,
>> you won't need it separately. (BTW, I play FuhQuake with a very basic,
>> standard QW appearance, rather than all the fancy new graphics.)
>> 
>> There are also some forums at http://www.quakeworld.us/forum/ that may
>> be helpful (including one devoted to Configs/Scripting)
>> 
>> There's also one at Besmella-Quake:
>> http://www.besmella-quake.com/forum/ 
>> 
>> Also check out http://qw.fragzone.se/
>> 
>> And for the latest demos (of various games), go to 
>> http://www.challenge-tv.com/ (QW demos are still the most popular,
>> though most these days are actually .mvd - multi-view server-recorded
>> demos playable on modern clients like FuhQuake, that allow you to
>> switch between all views.)
>> 
>> Well that should get you started on the modern world of Quake. 
>> 
>> 
> 
> Thanks for the info MV. I did d/l Fuhquake, but the screen is very dark 
> - almost corrupted. I can't read the opening text at all due to the 
> darkness. I can only get out by assuming ESC/up arrow/ENTER (for quit). 
> I'm not sure why I have this issue, but I'll check the forums you 
> mentioned.
> 
> Bill M.
> 

gamma .8 in the console, and then in a .bat file fixed it.

Bill M.

"McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in news:SwUaf.62569
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> http://qw.fragzone.se/

What timedemo do you get with your computer? I too have an AMD 64 2 
gigahertz, 512 DDR, GeForce 6800. At 1280, I get 59.8fps.

Bill M.

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> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in news:SwUaf.62569
> $Bf7.21713@tornado.texas.rr.com:
>
>> http://qw.fragzone.se/
>
> What timedemo do you get with your computer? I too have an AMD 64 2
> gigahertz, 512 DDR, GeForce 6800. At 1280, I get 59.8fps.
>
> Bill M.

Timedemo in Quake 1???    If you're running a DEMO file for Q1 then I also 
need to run the same one.   Um, hang on (this will be a bit of fun! 
)  )........

[still hangin on there?]


OK, on both running systems, using GLQuake 0.97 (Quake 1.09), in 
1280x1024-16 bpps (32bpp is not available in high resolutions evidently). 
Here's what I have done since the release of Quake Full version.   I run the 
game, select New Game (you will be in the start room with shotgun and facing 
the 3 halls of difficulty levels), drop the console, type in TIMEREFRESH 
[enter], the view spins around, and here are the figures:

The P4 got 244.126574 fps.

The X2 got 754.654071 fps.


Specs:

P4= 478fc2 P4 3.0E (Prescott, 1m L2, 800fsb, HT), GA8-IPE1000-G (ICH5 
chipset),  4 x 512meg PC3200 in dual channel,  PNY GF4-Ti4600-128 w/nvidia 
53.03 drivers,  TB Santa Cruz,  XP Pro SP2.

X2= AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+,  ( E6,Toledo,90nm,L2-1MBx2, 2000mHz system bus), 
GA K8NS Ultra-939 (nForce3 Ultra chipset),  2 x 1gig PC3200 in dual channel, 
eVGA 6800GT (AGP8X) w/nvidia 77.77 drivers,  onboard nVidia 8ch sound, XP 
Pro SP2.

The fastest the P4 did even with the 6800GT was 247 fps, and I was kinda 
proud of that.  Now, I have the X2 but haven't run Quake on it yet.  I 
almost crapped myself a few minutes ago when I actually ran GLQuake for the 
first time on the X2.  Over 750fps!!!!!!!!!  :o)))   LOL!  WOW!

Your TIMEREFRESH results should be fairly high also.  Turn off VSYNC in the 
nvidia driver control panel.

McG. 

"Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message 
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> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in news:SwUaf.62569
> $Bf7.21713@tornado.texas.rr.com:
>
>> http://qw.fragzone.se/
>
> What timedemo do you get with your computer? I too have an AMD 64 2
> gigahertz, 512 DDR, GeForce 6800. At 1280, I get 59.8fps.
>
> Bill M.

You're using an LCD flatpanel monitor with 'monitor refresh rate' set to 
60Hz and VSYNC is turned ON in your control panel.  Turn it off, you should 
see your fps skyrocket :)
McG.

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> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in
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>
>>
>> "Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9701A0AE183B4wbmclexcitecom@65.24.3.135...
>>> "BelPowerslave" <Belpowerslave@ev1.net> wrote in
>>> news:1129665851.728331.244430@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I just installed Quake on Windows XP last night. It was the latest
>>>> release(1.09) and came with Quake, WinQuake and glQuake. Of course,
>>>> I had to update glQuake, pitch the damn opengl.dll thing, etc, but I
>>>> got it to work. Being relatively new to Windows, I had a little bit
>>>> of a hard time with that bullshit "command line resolution change"
>>>> thing that gl makes you do(why couldn't they have let you do this in
>>>> the game, like the Mac version does?)...but I got past it(found a
>>>> post talking about creating a text document with the res. change
>>>> screen, then saving it as ".bat").
>>>>
>>>> My questions are:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Can glQuake achieve any higher res than 1024X768? Anytime I try
>>>> *anything* higher I get something along the lines of "resolution not
>>>> supported". I was playing Mac Quake at 1280X1024...I find it hard to
>>>> believe that the PC version couldn't do that same...
>>>
>>> I just now reinstalled it for nostalgia reasons. Hopefully there's
>>> some net
>>> activity for DM.
>>>
>>> I'm trying to edit the config.cfg file and add a .bat file but so far
>>> no luck. My recollection after almost 8 years is nil.
>>>
>>>> 2. The sound sampling rate...11025? You've got to be fucking kidding
>>>> me. Is it possible to jack that up to, at least, 22100 or
>>>> even(hopefully) 44100? If so, is this something I'd put in the same
>>>> ".bat" document I had to make up to get glQuake to run in 1024X768?
>>>
>>> This from one of the Quake .txt files:
>>>
>>> SSPEED
>>>  Syntax: -sspeed <speed>
>>>  Description: This will ask the sound code to set the playback speed
>>>    within the constraints of the capabilities of the card.  This is
>>> 11025 Hz by default and usually from 8000 to 44100.  Making this
>>> faster requires more CPU horsepower, and has no actual benefits,
>>> because the sounds only contain 11 KHz data.  Making this slower
>>> degrades sound quality, but improves performance and saves memory.
>>>
>>>> Any help would be most appreciated...I loved Quake back on the Mac,
>>>> but do to this new monitor I've bought, believe it or not, it simply
>>>> won't run(the screen and refresh rate change crashes it every time).
>>>> Am loving Quake on the PC, would just like to jack up the options as
>>>> much as possible. :)
>>>
>>> How do you set the mouselook to always be on? And how to adjust the
>>> gamma? It's way to dark. I'm running GLQuake.exe.
>>>
>>> Bill M.
>>
>> in the autoexec.cfg
>> Quake.
>> Aw man, hold this thread a bit, I gotta get a vid card in the other
>> puter that has all that stuff installed and running.   I'll just post
>> the contents of my autoexec.cfg file for ya'll.
>> McG.
>
> I figured out the mouselook - it's +mlook. I completely forgot about
> that one. The GLQuake looks great, but I wish I had my old config. I
> think I had a right mouse click grenade launcher, left click regular
> weapon. And I had my name animated like crazy. Is there a resource for
> all the old quake commands? I've been looking around but not much any
> more.
>
> Bill M.

First, here's an old config.cfg file for Quake/GLQuake

bind "TAB" "+showscores "
bind "ENTER" "impulse 10"
bind "ESCAPE" "togglemenu "
bind "SPACE" "+jump"
bind "+" "sizeup "
bind "," "+moveleft "
bind "-" "sizedown "
bind "." "+moveright "
bind "/" "impulse 10"
bind "0" "impulse 0 "
bind "1" "impulse 1 "
bind "2" "impulse 2 "
bind "3" "impulse 3 "
bind "4" "impulse 4 "
bind "5" "impulse 5 "
bind "6" "impulse 6 "
bind "7" "impulse 7 "
bind "8" "impulse 8 "
bind "=" "sizeup "
bind "Q" "toggleconsole; disconnect; qlist"
bind "\" "+mlook "
bind "`" "toggleconsole "
bind "a" "+moveleft"
bind "c" "+movedown"
bind "d" "+moveright"
bind "e" "GOD"
bind "g" "impulse 22"
bind "h" "impulse 21"
bind "i" "impulse 9"
bind "k" "impulse 255"
bind "l" "impulse 20"
bind "n" "give n 200"
bind "p" "impulse 255"
bind "r" "give r 100"
bind "s" "impulse 106"
bind "t" "impulse 104"
bind "u" "impulse 100"
bind "w" "impulse 9"
bind "z" "zoom_in
"
bind "~" "toggleconsole "
bind "UPARROW" "+forward"
bind "DOWNARROW" "+back"
bind "LEFTARROW" "+left "
bind "RIGHTARROW" "+right"
bind "ALT" "+strafe "
bind "CTRL" "+attack"
bind "SHIFT" "+speed "
bind "F1" "help "
bind "F2" "menu_save "
bind "F3" "menu_load "
bind "F4" "menu_options "
bind "F5" "menu_multiplayer "
bind "F6" "echo Quicksaving...; wait; save quick "
bind "F9" "echo Quickloading...; wait; load quick "
bind "F10" "quit "
bind "F11" "zoom_out"
bind "F12" "screenshot "
bind "INS" "+klook "
bind "DEL" "+lookdown "
bind "PGDN" "+lookup "
bind "END" "centerview "
bind "MOUSE1" "+attack"
bind "MOUSE2" "+forward"
bind "MOUSE3" "+mlook"
bind "JOY2" "+jump"
bind "PAUSE" "pause "
joystick "0"
m_side "0.8"
m_forward "1"
m_yaw "0.022"
m_pitch "-0.022000"
sensitivity "5.000000"
lookstrafe "0"
lookspring "0"
cl_backspeed "400.000000"
cl_forwardspeed "400.000000"
_cl_color "84.000000"
_cl_name "McG"
_snd_mixahead "0.1"
bgmvolume "0.000000"
volume "0.300000"
gl_triplebuffer "0"
viewsize "110.000000"
_windowed_mouse "0"
vid_stretch_by_2 "1"
vid_config_y "600"
vid_config_x "800"
_vid_default_mode_win "3"
_vid_default_mode "6.000000"
_vid_wait_override "0"
vid_nopageflip "0"
_config_modem_hangup "AT H"
_config_modem_init ""
_config_modem_clear "ATZ"
_config_modem_dialtype "T"
_config_com_modem "0.000000"
_config_com_baud "57600.000000"
_config_com_irq "4.000000"
_config_com_port "1016.000000"
gl_subdivide_size "128"
saved4 "0"
saved3 "0"
saved2 "0"
saved1 "0"
savedgamecfg "1"
gamma "0.500000"
crosshair "1"

Next, the autoexec.cfg I use for this install (will be changed) needless to 
say, it's for cheats :)

+mlook
crosshair=1
bind "e" "GOD"
bind "g" "impulse 22"
bind "h" "impulse 21"
bind "i" "impulse 9"
bind "k" "impulse 255"
bind "l" "impulse 20"
bind "n" "give n 200"
bind "p" "impulse 255"
bind "r" "give r 100"
bind "s" "impulse 106"
bind "t" "impulse 104"
bind "u" "impulse 100"
bind "w" "impulse 9"
bind "z" "zoom_in"
seta r_wateralpha "0.6"

I'll get out one of the old cd's I've backed this stuff up to and see what 
other cfg's are there.  You know inside the pak files there are also some of 
the dev teams .cfgs ;)
They're zip files renamed to .pak
McG. 

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>> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in news:SwUaf.62569
>> $Bf7.21713@tornado.texas.rr.com:
>>
>>> http://qw.fragzone.se/
>>
>> What timedemo do you get with your computer? I too have an AMD 64 2
>> gigahertz, 512 DDR, GeForce 6800. At 1280, I get 59.8fps.
>>
>> Bill M.
> 
> You're using an LCD flatpanel monitor with 'monitor refresh rate' set
> to 60Hz and VSYNC is turned ON in your control panel.  Turn it off,
> you should see your fps skyrocket :)
> McG.
> 
> 

Actually I have an older Sony 200sx set at it's maximum resolution of 
1280x1024. Unfortunately it's best vsync scan rate is 60Hz, but the 
flicker is not noticeable (unlike other monitors).

Would editing the vsync still be positive and if so how? I don't see it 
in the control panel/display settings. The Sony can do 75Hz at 1024 and 
if the FPS cranks, I'd drop the resolution down to that, providing I can 
set the vsync to make that work.

Bill M.

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news:oL3bf.73623$GQ.24723@tornado.texas.rr.com: 

> 
> "Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message 
> news:Xns97051BCA6FAD9wbmclexcitecom@216.196.97.131...
>> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in news:SwUaf.62569
>> $Bf7.21713@tornado.texas.rr.com:
>>
>>> http://qw.fragzone.se/
>>
>> What timedemo do you get with your computer? I too have an AMD 64 2
>> gigahertz, 512 DDR, GeForce 6800. At 1280, I get 59.8fps.
>>
>> Bill M.
> 
> Timedemo in Quake 1???    If you're running a DEMO file for Q1 then I
> also need to run the same one.   Um, hang on (this will be a bit of
> fun! )  )........
> 
> [still hangin on there?]
> 
> 
> OK, on both running systems, using GLQuake 0.97 (Quake 1.09), in 
> 1280x1024-16 bpps (32bpp is not available in high resolutions
> evidently). Here's what I have done since the release of Quake Full
> version.   I run the game, select New Game (you will be in the start
> room with shotgun and facing the 3 halls of difficulty levels), drop
> the console, type in TIMEREFRESH [enter], the view spins around, and
> here are the figures: 
> 
> The P4 got 244.126574 fps.
> 
> The X2 got 754.654071 fps.
> 
> 
> Specs:
> 
> P4= 478fc2 P4 3.0E (Prescott, 1m L2, 800fsb, HT), GA8-IPE1000-G (ICH5 
> chipset),  4 x 512meg PC3200 in dual channel,  PNY GF4-Ti4600-128
> w/nvidia 53.03 drivers,  TB Santa Cruz,  XP Pro SP2.
> 
> X2= AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+,  ( E6,Toledo,90nm,L2-1MBx2, 2000mHz system
> bus), GA K8NS Ultra-939 (nForce3 Ultra chipset),  2 x 1gig PC3200 in
> dual channel, eVGA 6800GT (AGP8X) w/nvidia 77.77 drivers,  onboard
> nVidia 8ch sound, XP Pro SP2.
> 
> The fastest the P4 did even with the 6800GT was 247 fps, and I was
> kinda proud of that.  Now, I have the X2 but haven't run Quake on it
> yet.  I almost crapped myself a few minutes ago when I actually ran
> GLQuake for the first time on the X2.  Over 750fps!!!!!!!!!  :o)))  
> LOL!  WOW! 
> 
> Your TIMEREFRESH results should be fairly high also.  Turn off VSYNC
> in the nvidia driver control panel.
> 
> McG. 
> 
> 

Yeah just pop in:

timedemo demo1

in the console. That was the default benchmark back in 1996-1997.

Bill M.

"McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in
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> The fastest the P4 did even with the 6800GT was 247 fps, and I was
> kinda proud of that.  Now, I have the X2 but haven't run Quake on it
> yet.  I almost crapped myself a few minutes ago when I actually ran
> GLQuake for the first time on the X2.  Over 750fps!!!!!!!!!  :o)))  
> LOL!  WOW! 

That's unbelievable. My AMD 64/6800GT ranged from 195-208 fps. I'll 
investigate the vsync but I think at this resolution I'm limited by the 
monitor.

I installed eQuake. The GL looks awesome. There's a nice built-in 
multiplayer server utility, though it doesn't seem to indicate if anyone is 
in the target server or not. I think I also need a security file of some 
sort. After entering a server, setting my keys properly and playing around 
a bit, I exited and entered another, but the keys didn't stay put. I gather 
I need to make an autoexec.cfg file and load it up in a .bat file in order 
to keep the settings?

Bill M.

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> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in
> news:wN3bf.73624$GQ.64436@tornado.texas.rr.com:
>
>>
>> "Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns97051BCA6FAD9wbmclexcitecom@216.196.97.131...
>>> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in news:SwUaf.62569
>>> $Bf7.21713@tornado.texas.rr.com:
>>>
>>>> http://qw.fragzone.se/
>>>
>>> What timedemo do you get with your computer? I too have an AMD 64 2
>>> gigahertz, 512 DDR, GeForce 6800. At 1280, I get 59.8fps.
>>>
>>> Bill M.
>>
>> You're using an LCD flatpanel monitor with 'monitor refresh rate' set
>> to 60Hz and VSYNC is turned ON in your control panel.  Turn it off,
>> you should see your fps skyrocket :)
>> McG.
>>
>>
>
> Actually I have an older Sony 200sx set at it's maximum resolution of
> 1280x1024. Unfortunately it's best vsync scan rate is 60Hz, but the
> flicker is not noticeable (unlike other monitors).
>
> Would editing the vsync still be positive and if so how? I don't see it
> in the control panel/display settings. The Sony can do 75Hz at 1024 and
> if the FPS cranks, I'd drop the resolution down to that, providing I can
> set the vsync to make that work.
>
> Bill M.

Vsync is where the video card limits the actual framerate to the vertical 
scan rate.   Or refresh rate.   I think that's why your framerate is almost 
exactly 60 fps :)
You simply disable VSYNC.  Where the option is depends on which vintage of 
driver you're using.  in 77.77 you go to Performance and Quality Settings 
tab.
McG. 

"Bill M."
snip
>>
>
> Yeah just pop in:
>
> timedemo demo1
>
> in the console. That was the default benchmark back in 1996-1997.
>
> Bill M.
Right, i knew that ;)
McG. 

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> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in
> news:oL3bf.73623$GQ.24723@tornado.texas.rr.com:
>
>> The fastest the P4 did even with the 6800GT was 247 fps, and I was
>> kinda proud of that.  Now, I have the X2 but haven't run Quake on it
>> yet.  I almost crapped myself a few minutes ago when I actually ran
>> GLQuake for the first time on the X2.  Over 750fps!!!!!!!!!  :o)))
>> LOL!  WOW!
>
> That's unbelievable. My AMD 64/6800GT ranged from 195-208 fps. I'll
> investigate the vsync but I think at this resolution I'm limited by the
> monitor.
>
> I installed eQuake. The GL looks awesome. There's a nice built-in
> multiplayer server utility, though it doesn't seem to indicate if anyone 
> is
> in the target server or not. I think I also need a security file of some
> sort. After entering a server, setting my keys properly and playing around
> a bit, I exited and entered another, but the keys didn't stay put. I 
> gather
> I need to make an autoexec.cfg file and load it up in a .bat file in order
> to keep the settings?
>
> Bill M.

Ok, I just ran quake, got to the New Game start screen, dropped console, ran 
TIMEDEMO DEMO1
with vsync ON I got the same fps you did, with it OFF I got 568.0 FPS :) 
1.7 secs to complete.
McG. 

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> 
> "Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message 
> news:Xns970587EC84094wbmclexcitecom@65.24.3.135...
>> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:wN3bf.73624$GQ.64436@tornado.texas.rr.com:
>>
>>>
>>> "Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Xns97051BCA6FAD9wbmclexcitecom@216.196.97.131...
>>>> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in news:SwUaf.62569
>>>> $Bf7.21713@tornado.texas.rr.com:
>>>>
>>>>> http://qw.fragzone.se/
>>>>
>>>> What timedemo do you get with your computer? I too have an AMD 64 2
>>>> gigahertz, 512 DDR, GeForce 6800. At 1280, I get 59.8fps.
>>>>
>>>> Bill M.
>>>
>>> You're using an LCD flatpanel monitor with 'monitor refresh rate'
>>> set to 60Hz and VSYNC is turned ON in your control panel.  Turn it
>>> off, you should see your fps skyrocket :)
>>> McG.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Actually I have an older Sony 200sx set at it's maximum resolution of
>> 1280x1024. Unfortunately it's best vsync scan rate is 60Hz, but the
>> flicker is not noticeable (unlike other monitors).
>>
>> Would editing the vsync still be positive and if so how? I don't see
>> it in the control panel/display settings. The Sony can do 75Hz at
>> 1024 and if the FPS cranks, I'd drop the resolution down to that,
>> providing I can set the vsync to make that work.
>>
>> Bill M.
> 
> Vsync is where the video card limits the actual framerate to the
> vertical scan rate.   Or refresh rate.   I think that's why your
> framerate is almost exactly 60 fps :)
> You simply disable VSYNC.  Where the option is depends on which
> vintage of driver you're using.  in 77.77 you go to Performance and
> Quality Settings tab.
> McG. 
> 
> 
> 

I disabled VSYNC, ran timedemo demo1 three times and averaged 320.5 fps. 
Not too shabby.

I had downloaded the new 81.87 beta drivers from nvidia.com, installed 
them, then tried to run GLQuake for a timedemo, but ... Quake crashed. I 
tried it three times, and it crashed at the same point. So beware the 
drivers. I currently am running the 61.77 drivers, so I'll hunt down the 
77.77 drivers and try a timedemo then.

Bill M.

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> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in
> news:cP7bf.74411$GQ.45466@tornado.texas.rr.com: 
> 
>> 
>> "Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message 
>> news:Xns970587EC84094wbmclexcitecom@65.24.3.135...
>>> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:wN3bf.73624$GQ.64436@tornado.texas.rr.com:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:Xns97051BCA6FAD9wbmclexcitecom@216.196.97.131...
>>>>> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:SwUaf.62569 $Bf7.21713@tornado.texas.rr.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://qw.fragzone.se/
>>>>>
>>>>> What timedemo do you get with your computer? I too have an AMD 64
>>>>> 2 gigahertz, 512 DDR, GeForce 6800. At 1280, I get 59.8fps.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill M.
>>>>
>>>> You're using an LCD flatpanel monitor with 'monitor refresh rate'
>>>> set to 60Hz and VSYNC is turned ON in your control panel.  Turn it
>>>> off, you should see your fps skyrocket :)
>>>> McG.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Actually I have an older Sony 200sx set at it's maximum resolution
>>> of 1280x1024. Unfortunately it's best vsync scan rate is 60Hz, but
>>> the flicker is not noticeable (unlike other monitors).
>>>
>>> Would editing the vsync still be positive and if so how? I don't see
>>> it in the control panel/display settings. The Sony can do 75Hz at
>>> 1024 and if the FPS cranks, I'd drop the resolution down to that,
>>> providing I can set the vsync to make that work.
>>>
>>> Bill M.
>> 
>> Vsync is where the video card limits the actual framerate to the
>> vertical scan rate.   Or refresh rate.   I think that's why your
>> framerate is almost exactly 60 fps :)
>> You simply disable VSYNC.  Where the option is depends on which
>> vintage of driver you're using.  in 77.77 you go to Performance and
>> Quality Settings tab.
>> McG. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> I disabled VSYNC, ran timedemo demo1 three times and averaged 320.5
> fps. Not too shabby.
> 
> I had downloaded the new 81.87 beta drivers from nvidia.com, installed
> them, then tried to run GLQuake for a timedemo, but ... Quake crashed.
> I tried it three times, and it crashed at the same point. So beware
> the drivers. I currently am running the 61.77 drivers, so I'll hunt
> down the 77.77 drivers and try a timedemo then.
> 
> Bill M.
> 

After the 81.87 driver crash, I tried the 81.85 with the same result.
The third try was the charm as 79.11 did the trick and allowed Quake to
run properly. 

The timedemo demo1 resulted in an average of 352 fps for a nice 8% gain
or so. 

Bill M.

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>>
>> "Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message
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>>> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in
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>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message
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>>>>> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in news:SwUaf.62569
>>>>> $Bf7.21713@tornado.texas.rr.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://qw.fragzone.se/
>>>>>
>>>>> What timedemo do you get with your computer? I too have an AMD 64 2
>>>>> gigahertz, 512 DDR, GeForce 6800. At 1280, I get 59.8fps.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill M.
>>>>
>>>> You're using an LCD flatpanel monitor with 'monitor refresh rate'
>>>> set to 60Hz and VSYNC is turned ON in your control panel.  Turn it
>>>> off, you should see your fps skyrocket :)
>>>> McG.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Actually I have an older Sony 200sx set at it's maximum resolution of
>>> 1280x1024. Unfortunately it's best vsync scan rate is 60Hz, but the
>>> flicker is not noticeable (unlike other monitors).
>>>
>>> Would editing the vsync still be positive and if so how? I don't see
>>> it in the control panel/display settings. The Sony can do 75Hz at
>>> 1024 and if the FPS cranks, I'd drop the resolution down to that,
>>> providing I can set the vsync to make that work.
>>>
>>> Bill M.
>>
>> Vsync is where the video card limits the actual framerate to the
>> vertical scan rate.   Or refresh rate.   I think that's why your
>> framerate is almost exactly 60 fps :)
>> You simply disable VSYNC.  Where the option is depends on which
>> vintage of driver you're using.  in 77.77 you go to Performance and
>> Quality Settings tab.
>> McG.
>>
>>
>>
>
> I disabled VSYNC, ran timedemo demo1 three times and averaged 320.5 fps.
> Not too shabby.
>
> I had downloaded the new 81.87 beta drivers from nvidia.com, installed
> them, then tried to run GLQuake for a timedemo, but ... Quake crashed. I
> tried it three times, and it crashed at the same point. So beware the
> drivers. I currently am running the 61.77 drivers, so I'll hunt down the
> 77.77 drivers and try a timedemo then.
>
> Bill M.

The new 80 series forceware drivers do some things no series before have 
done.  There is now better support for dual core cpu's for instance.  BUT, 
my main graphics application won't run.  Not ANY version of it!  Paint Shop 
Pro 7, 8, 9 and X will not display on the screen nor come up on the task 
bar.  But task manager says the program is running.  PSP cannot create/draw 
the window with the 80 series drivers so far.  I may try that beta set you 
found, but sounds like it may have the same problem still.
The WHQL 77.77 drivers are on nVidias site in Drivers.  When you get to the 
current driver download page, look on the left for Driver Archive just above 
relevant links.
>>From what i can see there, for XP the available versions are:
77.72, 77.77. 78.01, 81.85 with set 81.05 (the one I have that was a problem 
with PSP) missing in the archives.  Hmm.
The 81.nn drivers are supposed to be noticeably faster and clear up some 
little problems with some games.  So I'd love for them to work with PSP 
also!

Glad your timedemo came up so well!   Running the entire demo in less than 2 
seconds!  LOL!
McG.

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>> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in
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>>
>>>
>>> "Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message
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>>>> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in
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>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Xns97051BCA6FAD9wbmclexcitecom@216.196.97.131...
>>>>>> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>> news:SwUaf.62569 $Bf7.21713@tornado.texas.rr.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://qw.fragzone.se/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What timedemo do you get with your computer? I too have an AMD 64
>>>>>> 2 gigahertz, 512 DDR, GeForce 6800. At 1280, I get 59.8fps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill M.
>>>>>
>>>>> You're using an LCD flatpanel monitor with 'monitor refresh rate'
>>>>> set to 60Hz and VSYNC is turned ON in your control panel.  Turn it
>>>>> off, you should see your fps skyrocket :)
>>>>> McG.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Actually I have an older Sony 200sx set at it's maximum resolution
>>>> of 1280x1024. Unfortunately it's best vsync scan rate is 60Hz, but
>>>> the flicker is not noticeable (unlike other monitors).
>>>>
>>>> Would editing the vsync still be positive and if so how? I don't see
>>>> it in the control panel/display settings. The Sony can do 75Hz at
>>>> 1024 and if the FPS cranks, I'd drop the resolution down to that,
>>>> providing I can set the vsync to make that work.
>>>>
>>>> Bill M.
>>>
>>> Vsync is where the video card limits the actual framerate to the
>>> vertical scan rate.   Or refresh rate.   I think that's why your
>>> framerate is almost exactly 60 fps :)
>>> You simply disable VSYNC.  Where the option is depends on which
>>> vintage of driver you're using.  in 77.77 you go to Performance and
>>> Quality Settings tab.
>>> McG.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I disabled VSYNC, ran timedemo demo1 three times and averaged 320.5
>> fps. Not too shabby.
>>
>> I had downloaded the new 81.87 beta drivers from nvidia.com, installed
>> them, then tried to run GLQuake for a timedemo, but ... Quake crashed.
>> I tried it three times, and it crashed at the same point. So beware
>> the drivers. I currently am running the 61.77 drivers, so I'll hunt
>> down the 77.77 drivers and try a timedemo then.
>>
>> Bill M.
>>
>
> After the 81.87 driver crash, I tried the 81.85 with the same result.
> The third try was the charm as 79.11 did the trick and allowed Quake to
> run properly.
>
> The timedemo demo1 resulted in an average of 352 fps for a nice 8% gain
> or so.
>
> Bill M.

Where did you find the 79.11 set?  I don't see them in Nvidias driver 
archives.
I'm glad your Quake is running well now!
McG. 

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>> "Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in
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>>>>
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>>>>> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in
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>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>>> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:SwUaf.62569 $Bf7.21713@tornado.texas.rr.com:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://qw.fragzone.se/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What timedemo do you get with your computer? I too have an AMD
>>>>>>> 64 2 gigahertz, 512 DDR, GeForce 6800. At 1280, I get 59.8fps.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bill M.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're using an LCD flatpanel monitor with 'monitor refresh rate'
>>>>>> set to 60Hz and VSYNC is turned ON in your control panel.  Turn
>>>>>> it off, you should see your fps skyrocket :)
>>>>>> McG.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually I have an older Sony 200sx set at it's maximum resolution
>>>>> of 1280x1024. Unfortunately it's best vsync scan rate is 60Hz, but
>>>>> the flicker is not noticeable (unlike other monitors).
>>>>>
>>>>> Would editing the vsync still be positive and if so how? I don't
>>>>> see it in the control panel/display settings. The Sony can do 75Hz
>>>>> at 1024 and if the FPS cranks, I'd drop the resolution down to
>>>>> that, providing I can set the vsync to make that work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill M.
>>>>
>>>> Vsync is where the video card limits the actual framerate to the
>>>> vertical scan rate.   Or refresh rate.   I think that's why your
>>>> framerate is almost exactly 60 fps :)
>>>> You simply disable VSYNC.  Where the option is depends on which
>>>> vintage of driver you're using.  in 77.77 you go to Performance and
>>>> Quality Settings tab.
>>>> McG.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I disabled VSYNC, ran timedemo demo1 three times and averaged 320.5
>>> fps. Not too shabby.
>>>
>>> I had downloaded the new 81.87 beta drivers from nvidia.com,
>>> installed them, then tried to run GLQuake for a timedemo, but ...
>>> Quake crashed. I tried it three times, and it crashed at the same
>>> point. So beware the drivers. I currently am running the 61.77
>>> drivers, so I'll hunt down the 77.77 drivers and try a timedemo
>>> then. 
>>>
>>> Bill M.
>>>
>>
>> After the 81.87 driver crash, I tried the 81.85 with the same result.
>> The third try was the charm as 79.11 did the trick and allowed Quake
>> to run properly.
>>
>> The timedemo demo1 resulted in an average of 352 fps for a nice 8%
>> gain or so.
>>
>> Bill M.
> 
> Where did you find the 79.11 set?  I don't see them in Nvidias driver 
> archives.
> I'm glad your Quake is running well now!
> McG. 
> 
> 

You can find a buh-load of Nvidia drivers here, including the successful
(for me) 79.11: 

http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?id=10

Bill M.

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>>> news:Xns970587EC84094wbmclexcitecom@65.24.3.135...
>>>> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in
>>>> news:wN3bf.73624$GQ.64436@tornado.texas.rr.com:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Xns97051BCA6FAD9wbmclexcitecom@216.196.97.131...
>>>>>> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>> news:SwUaf.62569 $Bf7.21713@tornado.texas.rr.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://qw.fragzone.se/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What timedemo do you get with your computer? I too have an AMD 64
>>>>>> 2 gigahertz, 512 DDR, GeForce 6800. At 1280, I get 59.8fps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill M.
>>>>>
>>>>> You're using an LCD flatpanel monitor with 'monitor refresh rate'
>>>>> set to 60Hz and VSYNC is turned ON in your control panel.  Turn it
>>>>> off, you should see your fps skyrocket :)
>>>>> McG.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Actually I have an older Sony 200sx set at it's maximum resolution
>>>> of 1280x1024. Unfortunately it's best vsync scan rate is 60Hz, but
>>>> the flicker is not noticeable (unlike other monitors).
>>>>
>>>> Would editing the vsync still be positive and if so how? I don't
>>>> see it in the control panel/display settings. The Sony can do 75Hz
>>>> at 1024 and if the FPS cranks, I'd drop the resolution down to
>>>> that, providing I can set the vsync to make that work.
>>>>
>>>> Bill M.
>>>
>>> Vsync is where the video card limits the actual framerate to the
>>> vertical scan rate.   Or refresh rate.   I think that's why your
>>> framerate is almost exactly 60 fps :)
>>> You simply disable VSYNC.  Where the option is depends on which
>>> vintage of driver you're using.  in 77.77 you go to Performance and
>>> Quality Settings tab.
>>> McG.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I disabled VSYNC, ran timedemo demo1 three times and averaged 320.5
>> fps. Not too shabby.
>>
>> I had downloaded the new 81.87 beta drivers from nvidia.com,
>> installed them, then tried to run GLQuake for a timedemo, but ...
>> Quake crashed. I tried it three times, and it crashed at the same
>> point. So beware the drivers. I currently am running the 61.77
>> drivers, so I'll hunt down the 77.77 drivers and try a timedemo then.
>>
>> Bill M.
> 
> The new 80 series forceware drivers do some things no series before
> have done.  There is now better support for dual core cpu's for
> instance.  BUT, my main graphics application won't run.  Not ANY
> version of it!  Paint Shop Pro 7, 8, 9 and X will not display on the
> screen nor come up on the task bar.  But task manager says the program
> is running.  PSP cannot create/draw the window with the 80 series
> drivers so far.  I may try that beta set you found, but sounds like it
> may have the same problem still. The WHQL 77.77 drivers are on nVidias
> site in Drivers.  When you get to the current driver download page,
> look on the left for Driver Archive just above relevant links.
> From what i can see there, for XP the available versions are:
> 77.72, 77.77. 78.01, 81.85 with set 81.05 (the one I have that was a
> problem with PSP) missing in the archives.  Hmm.
> The 81.nn drivers are supposed to be noticeably faster and clear up
> some little problems with some games.  So I'd love for them to work
> with PSP also!
> 
> Glad your timedemo came up so well!   Running the entire demo in less
> than 2 seconds!  LOL!
> McG.
> 
> 

Yeah, how times have changed in the 10 years since I was last running 
timedemo. I think most of us were getting 30-40fps at 320x240 at the top 
end.

Unfortunately the 81.xx drivers will likely never resolve the issue with 
old-school Quake (assuming it's a global, and not only local issue.)

Do you have a bind where tapping the right mouse button loads and 
launches and then holsters a weapon? I had my right button bound to 
firing a rocket, then after the click, my "other" weapon would resume. 
That was a kick-ass bind, but I have no clue as to how to emulate it.

Bill M.

"Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message 
news:Xns970587EC84094wbmclexcitecom@65.24.3.135...

> Would editing the vsync still be positive and if so how? I don't see it
> in the control panel/display settings. The Sony can do 75Hz at 1024 and
> if the FPS cranks, I'd drop the resolution down to that, providing I can
> set the vsync to make that work.

Editing the vsync setting would certainly change your *timedemo* results in 
a positive way, but should have no visible or other effect on what you 
actually experience during gameplay. 

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> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in
> news:w0kbf.75487$GQ.41007@tornado.texas.rr.com:
>
>>
>> "Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns970626D0A560Fwbmclexcitecom@216.196.97.131...
>>> "Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in
>>> news:Xns970620625627Dwbmclexcitecom@216.196.97.131:
>>>
>>>> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in
>>>> news:cP7bf.74411$GQ.45466@tornado.texas.rr.com:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Xns970587EC84094wbmclexcitecom@65.24.3.135...
>>>>>> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>> news:wN3bf.73624$GQ.64436@tornado.texas.rr.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:Xns97051BCA6FAD9wbmclexcitecom@216.196.97.131...
>>>>>>>> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:SwUaf.62569 $Bf7.21713@tornado.texas.rr.com:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://qw.fragzone.se/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What timedemo do you get with your computer? I too have an AMD
>>>>>>>> 64 2 gigahertz, 512 DDR, GeForce 6800. At 1280, I get 59.8fps.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bill M.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You're using an LCD flatpanel monitor with 'monitor refresh rate'
>>>>>>> set to 60Hz and VSYNC is turned ON in your control panel.  Turn
>>>>>>> it off, you should see your fps skyrocket :)
>>>>>>> McG.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually I have an older Sony 200sx set at it's maximum resolution
>>>>>> of 1280x1024. Unfortunately it's best vsync scan rate is 60Hz, but
>>>>>> the flicker is not noticeable (unlike other monitors).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would editing the vsync still be positive and if so how? I don't
>>>>>> see it in the control panel/display settings. The Sony can do 75Hz
>>>>>> at 1024 and if the FPS cranks, I'd drop the resolution down to
>>>>>> that, providing I can set the vsync to make that work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill M.
>>>>>
>>>>> Vsync is where the video card limits the actual framerate to the
>>>>> vertical scan rate.   Or refresh rate.   I think that's why your
>>>>> framerate is almost exactly 60 fps :)
>>>>> You simply disable VSYNC.  Where the option is depends on which
>>>>> vintage of driver you're using.  in 77.77 you go to Performance and
>>>>> Quality Settings tab.
>>>>> McG.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I disabled VSYNC, ran timedemo demo1 three times and averaged 320.5
>>>> fps. Not too shabby.
>>>>
>>>> I had downloaded the new 81.87 beta drivers from nvidia.com,
>>>> installed them, then tried to run GLQuake for a timedemo, but ...
>>>> Quake crashed. I tried it three times, and it crashed at the same
>>>> point. So beware the drivers. I currently am running the 61.77
>>>> drivers, so I'll hunt down the 77.77 drivers and try a timedemo
>>>> then.
>>>>
>>>> Bill M.
>>>>
>>>
>>> After the 81.87 driver crash, I tried the 81.85 with the same result.
>>> The third try was the charm as 79.11 did the trick and allowed Quake
>>> to run properly.
>>>
>>> The timedemo demo1 resulted in an average of 352 fps for a nice 8%
>>> gain or so.
>>>
>>> Bill M.
>>
>> Where did you find the 79.11 set?  I don't see them in Nvidias driver
>> archives.
>> I'm glad your Quake is running well now!
>> McG.
>>
>>
>
> You can find a buh-load of Nvidia drivers here, including the successful
> (for me) 79.11:
>
> http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?id=10
>
> Bill M.

I see.  That site doesn't work for me.  Downloads never start.  Thanks 
though!
McG. 

"Bill M."
> "McGrandpa"
snip
>> Glad your timedemo came up so well!   Running the entire demo in less
>> than 2 seconds!  LOL!
>> McG.
>>
>>
>
> Yeah, how times have changed in the 10 years since I was last running
> timedemo. I think most of us were getting 30-40fps at 320x240 at the top
> end.
>
> Unfortunately the 81.xx drivers will likely never resolve the issue with
> old-school Quake (assuming it's a global, and not only local issue.)
>
> Do you have a bind where tapping the right mouse button loads and
> launches and then holsters a weapon? I had my right button bound to
> firing a rocket, then after the click, my "other" weapon would resume.
> That was a kick-ass bind, but I have no clue as to how to emulate it.
>
> Bill M.

That wouldn't be a simple bind.  You'd have to use an 'alias' and script it, 
then bind the alias to a key.   That is something that could be put in a 
.cfg, even the autoexec.cfg.
I'll look into it as I have time.
McG. 

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> "Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message 
> news:Xns970587EC84094wbmclexcitecom@65.24.3.135...
> 
>> Would editing the vsync still be positive and if so how? I don't see
>> it in the control panel/display settings. The Sony can do 75Hz at
>> 1024 and if the FPS cranks, I'd drop the resolution down to that,
>> providing I can set the vsync to make that work.
> 
> Editing the vsync setting would certainly change your *timedemo*
> results in a positive way, but should have no visible or other effect
> on what you actually experience during gameplay. 
> 
> 
> 

Yeah, it certainly did have a positive effect. The FPS cranked from a 
limited 60 fps to well over 200 fps. And indeed, the game does not suffer 
in any way visually.

Bill M.

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news:hMJbf.78706$GQ.10189@tornado.texas.rr.com: 

> 
> "Bill M."
>> "McGrandpa"
> snip
>>> Glad your timedemo came up so well!   Running the entire demo in
>>> less than 2 seconds!  LOL!
>>> McG.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Yeah, how times have changed in the 10 years since I was last running
>> timedemo. I think most of us were getting 30-40fps at 320x240 at the
>> top end.
>>
>> Unfortunately the 81.xx drivers will likely never resolve the issue
>> with old-school Quake (assuming it's a global, and not only local
>> issue.) 
>>
>> Do you have a bind where tapping the right mouse button loads and
>> launches and then holsters a weapon? I had my right button bound to
>> firing a rocket, then after the click, my "other" weapon would
>> resume. That was a kick-ass bind, but I have no clue as to how to
>> emulate it. 
>>
>> Bill M.
> 
> That wouldn't be a simple bind.  You'd have to use an 'alias' and
> script it, then bind the alias to a key.   That is something that
> could be put in a .cfg, even the autoexec.cfg.
> I'll look into it as I have time.
> McG. 
> 
> 

Thanks McG. Alternatively, would you know of a website that still has 
all of the quake commands itemized? I could perhaps construct an alias 
myself with such a list.

Bill M.

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> "Matthew Vaughan" <matt-no-spam-109@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:YQFbf.2432$te3.39244@typhoon.sonic.net:
>
>> "Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns970587EC84094wbmclexcitecom@65.24.3.135...
>>
>>> Would editing the vsync still be positive and if so how? I don't see
>>> it in the control panel/display settings. The Sony can do 75Hz at
>>> 1024 and if the FPS cranks, I'd drop the resolution down to that,
>>> providing I can set the vsync to make that work.
>>
>> Editing the vsync setting would certainly change your *timedemo*
>> results in a positive way, but should have no visible or other effect
>> on what you actually experience during gameplay.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Yeah, it certainly did have a positive effect. The FPS cranked from a
> limited 60 fps to well over 200 fps. And indeed, the game does not suffer
> in any way visually.
>
> Bill M.

There are SOME games that may appear to have tearing of the textures, often 
with black lines in the torn looking edges.  Enabling VSync will help that 
issue.  However, the problem might turn up with my system and not yours with 
the same game.   I'm glad your system is bullish enough to do Quake in high 
res without vsync :)
BTW-  GLQuake cannot do 32 bit color depth in any resolution higher than 
800x600.  But the game itself is 16 bit depth so just play it with 
1280x1024-16 like I do.  Looks pretty good, especially since the day when I 
was running at 320x240-16 and tweaking like crazy to get a couple more 
frames per second!   Who back then would have though we'd be playing it 
maxed out in hundreds of frames per second?! LOL!
McG. 

"Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message 
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> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in
> news:hMJbf.78706$GQ.10189@tornado.texas.rr.com:
>
>>
>> "Bill M."
>>> "McGrandpa"
>> snip
>>>> Glad your timedemo came up so well!   Running the entire demo in
>>>> less than 2 seconds!  LOL!
>>>> McG.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, how times have changed in the 10 years since I was last running
>>> timedemo. I think most of us were getting 30-40fps at 320x240 at the
>>> top end.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately the 81.xx drivers will likely never resolve the issue
>>> with old-school Quake (assuming it's a global, and not only local
>>> issue.)
>>>
>>> Do you have a bind where tapping the right mouse button loads and
>>> launches and then holsters a weapon? I had my right button bound to
>>> firing a rocket, then after the click, my "other" weapon would
>>> resume. That was a kick-ass bind, but I have no clue as to how to
>>> emulate it.
>>>
>>> Bill M.
>>
>> That wouldn't be a simple bind.  You'd have to use an 'alias' and
>> script it, then bind the alias to a key.   That is something that
>> could be put in a .cfg, even the autoexec.cfg.
>> I'll look into it as I have time.
>> McG.
>>
>>
>
> Thanks McG. Alternatively, would you know of a website that still has
> all of the quake commands itemized? I could perhaps construct an alias
> myself with such a list.
>
> Bill M.

Hmmm.  Got winzip?   Somewhere in the .pak files, there are loads of 
scripts.  Some with aliases.  There are also .cfg's that the dev team used. 
most of us learned of this one in the first few weeks that the "shareware 
demo" was out.  By the time Quake Full version was released, lots of us 
already had our .cfg's the way we wanted em :)  Looking... but I know I 
hadn't created any aliases myself.  I will look for all the command and cvar 
lists I've collected.
Ahhhhhhhhhh!!!  lookee what i've found...  QUAKE... Level Master V :)
bounty hunter DID write some aliases, so you'll have some examples to work 
from.
Do you get the ng  alt.binaries.games.quake   ?  If so, that's a good place 
to pop a little zip file to.
sample:

alias mn3 "play misc/menu3.wav"
startdemos "jizz7" "jizz14" "solo4"
// Circle Strafe - use with Forward
alias +cs_r "cl_forwardspeed 180.000000;+moveright;+left"
alias -cs_r "cl_forwardspeed 425.000000;-moveright;-left"
alias +cs_l "cl_forwardspeed 180.000000;+moveleft;+right"
alias -cs_l "cl_forwardspeed 425.000000;-moveleft;-right"
// Grappling Hook
alias gimp1 "impulse 1; alias gweap "impulse 1""
alias gimp2 "impulse 2; alias gweap "impulse 2""
alias gimp3 "impulse 3; alias gweap "impulse 3""
alias gimp4 "impulse 4; alias gweap "impulse 4""
alias gimp5 "impulse 5; alias gweap "impulse 5""
alias gimp6 "impulse 6; alias gweap "impulse 6""
alias gimp7 "impulse 7; alias gweap "impulse 7""
alias gimp8 "impulse 8; alias gweap "impulse 8""
bind 1 gimp1
bind 2 gimp2
bind 3 gimp3
bind 4 gimp4
bind 5 gimp5
bind 6 gimp6
bind 7 gimp7
bind 8 gimp8
alias gweap "impulse 2"
alias +grap "impulse 22"
alias -grap "gweap"
bind r "+grap"
// Weapon Selector
alias select_0 "impulse 2;play zoom02.wav;echo shotgun;bind mouse2 select_1"
alias select_1 "impulse 3;play zoom02.wav;echo super shotgun;bind mouse2 
select_2"
alias select_2 "impulse 4;play zoom02.wav;echo nailgun;bind mouse2 select_3"
alias select_3 "impulse 5;play zoom02.wav;echo perforator;bind mouse2 
select_4"
alias select_4 "impulse 6;play zoom02.wav;echo pineapples;bind mouse2 
select_5"
alias select_5 "impulse 7;play zoom02.wav;echo gibulator;bind mouse2 
select_6"
alias select_6 "impulse 8;play zoom02.wav;echo zapper;bind mouse2 select_0"
bind "mouse2" "select_0"
exec bounty2.cfg

McG. 

"McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in
news:%19cf.82564$GQ.18213@tornado.texas.rr.com: 

> 
> "Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message 
> news:Xns97087C205289Fwbmclexcitecom@65.24.3.135...
>> "Matthew Vaughan" <matt-no-spam-109@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:YQFbf.2432$te3.39244@typhoon.sonic.net:
>>
>>> "Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Xns970587EC84094wbmclexcitecom@65.24.3.135...
>>>
>>>> Would editing the vsync still be positive and if so how? I don't
>>>> see it in the control panel/display settings. The Sony can do 75Hz
>>>> at 1024 and if the FPS cranks, I'd drop the resolution down to
>>>> that, providing I can set the vsync to make that work.
>>>
>>> Editing the vsync setting would certainly change your *timedemo*
>>> results in a positive way, but should have no visible or other
>>> effect on what you actually experience during gameplay.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Yeah, it certainly did have a positive effect. The FPS cranked from a
>> limited 60 fps to well over 200 fps. And indeed, the game does not
>> suffer in any way visually.
>>
>> Bill M.
> 
> There are SOME games that may appear to have tearing of the textures,
> often with black lines in the torn looking edges.  Enabling VSync will
> help that issue.  However, the problem might turn up with my system
> and not yours with the same game.   I'm glad your system is bullish
> enough to do Quake in high res without vsync :)
> BTW-  GLQuake cannot do 32 bit color depth in any resolution higher
> than 800x600.  But the game itself is 16 bit depth so just play it
> with 1280x1024-16 like I do.  Looks pretty good, especially since the
> day when I was running at 320x240-16 and tweaking like crazy to get a
> couple more frames per second!   Who back then would have though we'd
> be playing it maxed out in hundreds of frames per second?! LOL!
> McG. 
> 
> 
> 

Indeed. It's also ironic that I upgraded my first 386SX-16 to a 486DX-33 
because of DOOM, then I upgraded to a Pentium 100 because of Quake. Now I 
have a system a dozen times more powerful - and yet I've gone back to the 
two games that hardly need this kind of power.

Bill M.

"McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in
news:mk9cf.82568$GQ.46823@tornado.texas.rr.com: 

> 
> "Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message 
> news:Xns97087C4D2676Bwbmclexcitecom@65.24.3.135...
>> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:hMJbf.78706$GQ.10189@tornado.texas.rr.com:
>>
>>>
>>> "Bill M."
>>>> "McGrandpa"
>>> snip
>>>>> Glad your timedemo came up so well!   Running the entire demo in
>>>>> less than 2 seconds!  LOL!
>>>>> McG.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, how times have changed in the 10 years since I was last
>>>> running timedemo. I think most of us were getting 30-40fps at
>>>> 320x240 at the top end.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately the 81.xx drivers will likely never resolve the issue
>>>> with old-school Quake (assuming it's a global, and not only local
>>>> issue.)
>>>>
>>>> Do you have a bind where tapping the right mouse button loads and
>>>> launches and then holsters a weapon? I had my right button bound to
>>>> firing a rocket, then after the click, my "other" weapon would
>>>> resume. That was a kick-ass bind, but I have no clue as to how to
>>>> emulate it.
>>>>
>>>> Bill M.
>>>
>>> That wouldn't be a simple bind.  You'd have to use an 'alias' and
>>> script it, then bind the alias to a key.   That is something that
>>> could be put in a .cfg, even the autoexec.cfg.
>>> I'll look into it as I have time.
>>> McG.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Thanks McG. Alternatively, would you know of a website that still has
>> all of the quake commands itemized? I could perhaps construct an
>> alias myself with such a list.
>>
>> Bill M.
> 
> Hmmm.  Got winzip?   Somewhere in the .pak files, there are loads of 
> scripts.  Some with aliases.  There are also .cfg's that the dev team
> used. most of us learned of this one in the first few weeks that the
> "shareware demo" was out.  By the time Quake Full version was
> released, lots of us already had our .cfg's the way we wanted em :) 
> Looking... but I know I hadn't created any aliases myself.  I will
> look for all the command and cvar lists I've collected.
> Ahhhhhhhhhh!!!  lookee what i've found...  QUAKE... Level Master V :)
> bounty hunter DID write some aliases, so you'll have some examples to
> work from.
> Do you get the ng  alt.binaries.games.quake   ?  If so, that's a good
> place to pop a little zip file to.
> sample:
> 
> alias mn3 "play misc/menu3.wav"
> startdemos "jizz7" "jizz14" "solo4"
> // Circle Strafe - use with Forward
> alias +cs_r "cl_forwardspeed 180.000000;+moveright;+left"
> alias -cs_r "cl_forwardspeed 425.000000;-moveright;-left"
> alias +cs_l "cl_forwardspeed 180.000000;+moveleft;+right"
> alias -cs_l "cl_forwardspeed 425.000000;-moveleft;-right"
> // Grappling Hook
> alias gimp1 "impulse 1; alias gweap "impulse 1""
> alias gimp2 "impulse 2; alias gweap "impulse 2""
> alias gimp3 "impulse 3; alias gweap "impulse 3""
> alias gimp4 "impulse 4; alias gweap "impulse 4""
> alias gimp5 "impulse 5; alias gweap "impulse 5""
> alias gimp6 "impulse 6; alias gweap "impulse 6""
> alias gimp7 "impulse 7; alias gweap "impulse 7""
> alias gimp8 "impulse 8; alias gweap "impulse 8""
> bind 1 gimp1
> bind 2 gimp2
> bind 3 gimp3
> bind 4 gimp4
> bind 5 gimp5
> bind 6 gimp6
> bind 7 gimp7
> bind 8 gimp8
> alias gweap "impulse 2"
> alias +grap "impulse 22"
> alias -grap "gweap"
> bind r "+grap"
> // Weapon Selector
> alias select_0 "impulse 2;play zoom02.wav;echo shotgun;bind mouse2
> select_1" alias select_1 "impulse 3;play zoom02.wav;echo super
> shotgun;bind mouse2 select_2"
> alias select_2 "impulse 4;play zoom02.wav;echo nailgun;bind mouse2
> select_3" alias select_3 "impulse 5;play zoom02.wav;echo
> perforator;bind mouse2 select_4"
> alias select_4 "impulse 6;play zoom02.wav;echo pineapples;bind mouse2 
> select_5"
> alias select_5 "impulse 7;play zoom02.wav;echo gibulator;bind mouse2 
> select_6"
> alias select_6 "impulse 8;play zoom02.wav;echo zapper;bind mouse2
> select_0" bind "mouse2" "select_0"
> exec bounty2.cfg
> 
> McG. 
> 
> 
> 

Thanks McG, I'll check out the .pak. I do get binaries.quake, but that 
place seems pretty lifeless.

Bill M.

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>>
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>> news:Xns97087C205289Fwbmclexcitecom@65.24.3.135...
>>> "Matthew Vaughan" <matt-no-spam-109@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:YQFbf.2432$te3.39244@typhoon.sonic.net:
>>>
>>>> "Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:Xns970587EC84094wbmclexcitecom@65.24.3.135...
>>>>
>>>>> Would editing the vsync still be positive and if so how? I don't
>>>>> see it in the control panel/display settings. The Sony can do 75Hz
>>>>> at 1024 and if the FPS cranks, I'd drop the resolution down to
>>>>> that, providing I can set the vsync to make that work.
>>>>
>>>> Editing the vsync setting would certainly change your *timedemo*
>>>> results in a positive way, but should have no visible or other
>>>> effect on what you actually experience during gameplay.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, it certainly did have a positive effect. The FPS cranked from a
>>> limited 60 fps to well over 200 fps. And indeed, the game does not
>>> suffer in any way visually.
>>>
>>> Bill M.
>>
>> There are SOME games that may appear to have tearing of the textures,
>> often with black lines in the torn looking edges.  Enabling VSync will
>> help that issue.  However, the problem might turn up with my system
>> and not yours with the same game.   I'm glad your system is bullish
>> enough to do Quake in high res without vsync :)
>> BTW-  GLQuake cannot do 32 bit color depth in any resolution higher
>> than 800x600.  But the game itself is 16 bit depth so just play it
>> with 1280x1024-16 like I do.  Looks pretty good, especially since the
>> day when I was running at 320x240-16 and tweaking like crazy to get a
>> couple more frames per second!   Who back then would have though we'd
>> be playing it maxed out in hundreds of frames per second?! LOL!
>> McG.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Indeed. It's also ironic that I upgraded my first 386SX-16 to a 486DX-33
> because of DOOM, then I upgraded to a Pentium 100 because of Quake. Now I
> have a system a dozen times more powerful - and yet I've gone back to the
> two games that hardly need this kind of power.
>
> Bill M.

Same here Bill.  They were just more fun :)   There has never been anything 
to top Quake and Quake2 for CTF.   There have been a few weekends where i'd 
get a very GOOD 28.8 connection and i'd watch the sun go down, then come up 
again while sitting right here at this very desk!  I've even fallen asleep a 
couple times while playing Quake CTF online!
So now, when *I* have the connection, the hardware.... nobody is playing it 
:(
McG. 

"McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in
news:k2vcf.33$3K6.9@tornado.texas.rr.com: 

> 
> "Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message 
> news:Xns970981E3FBE89wbmclexcitecom@65.24.3.135...
>> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:%19cf.82564$GQ.18213@tornado.texas.rr.com:
>>
>>>
>>> "Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Xns97087C205289Fwbmclexcitecom@65.24.3.135...
>>>> "Matthew Vaughan" <matt-no-spam-109@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote in
>>>> news:YQFbf.2432$te3.39244@typhoon.sonic.net:
>>>>
>>>>> "Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Xns970587EC84094wbmclexcitecom@65.24.3.135...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Would editing the vsync still be positive and if so how? I don't
>>>>>> see it in the control panel/display settings. The Sony can do
>>>>>> 75Hz at 1024 and if the FPS cranks, I'd drop the resolution down
>>>>>> to that, providing I can set the vsync to make that work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Editing the vsync setting would certainly change your *timedemo*
>>>>> results in a positive way, but should have no visible or other
>>>>> effect on what you actually experience during gameplay.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, it certainly did have a positive effect. The FPS cranked from
>>>> a limited 60 fps to well over 200 fps. And indeed, the game does
>>>> not suffer in any way visually.
>>>>
>>>> Bill M.
>>>
>>> There are SOME games that may appear to have tearing of the
>>> textures, often with black lines in the torn looking edges. 
>>> Enabling VSync will help that issue.  However, the problem might
>>> turn up with my system and not yours with the same game.   I'm glad
>>> your system is bullish enough to do Quake in high res without vsync
>>> :) BTW-  GLQuake cannot do 32 bit color depth in any resolution
>>> higher than 800x600.  But the game itself is 16 bit depth so just
>>> play it with 1280x1024-16 like I do.  Looks pretty good, especially
>>> since the day when I was running at 320x240-16 and tweaking like
>>> crazy to get a couple more frames per second!   Who back then would
>>> have though we'd be playing it maxed out in hundreds of frames per
>>> second?! LOL! McG.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Indeed. It's also ironic that I upgraded my first 386SX-16 to a
>> 486DX-33 because of DOOM, then I upgraded to a Pentium 100 because of
>> Quake. Now I have a system a dozen times more powerful - and yet I've
>> gone back to the two games that hardly need this kind of power.
>>
>> Bill M.
> 
> Same here Bill.  They were just more fun :)   There has never been
> anything to top Quake and Quake2 for CTF.   There have been a few
> weekends where i'd get a very GOOD 28.8 connection and i'd watch the
> sun go down, then come up again while sitting right here at this very
> desk!  I've even fallen asleep a couple times while playing Quake CTF
> online! So now, when *I* have the connection, the hardware.... nobody
> is playing it 
>:(
> McG. 
> 
> 
> 
No doubt you, like I, also dreamed DOOM / Quake. I recall driving along 
seeing a guy walking past a garbage can barrel and thinking, "I should 
shoot that barrel". Also in a restaurant, there was a large fan ceiling 
and I thought, "I got chopped up in that the other day ... wait, that 
was Quake."

I'm still going through Quake in solo mode, and still marveling at the 
nostalgia factor. But with Fuhquake down, and QuakeWorld (through 
GameSpy) pretty much non-existent, are there any dependable eQuake 
servers? The front-end launcher doesn't give much info as to which 
server is active, and those few that I've gone in (because of my solo 
play focus) have been inactive too.

Bill M.

"Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message 
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> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in
> news:k2vcf.33$3K6.9@tornado.texas.rr.com:
>
>>
>> "Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns970981E3FBE89wbmclexcitecom@65.24.3.135...
>>> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:%19cf.82564$GQ.18213@tornado.texas.rr.com:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:Xns97087C205289Fwbmclexcitecom@65.24.3.135...
>>>>> "Matthew Vaughan" <matt-no-spam-109@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:YQFbf.2432$te3.39244@typhoon.sonic.net:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:Xns970587EC84094wbmclexcitecom@65.24.3.135...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Would editing the vsync still be positive and if so how? I don't
>>>>>>> see it in the control panel/display settings. The Sony can do
>>>>>>> 75Hz at 1024 and if the FPS cranks, I'd drop the resolution down
>>>>>>> to that, providing I can set the vsync to make that work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Editing the vsync setting would certainly change your *timedemo*
>>>>>> results in a positive way, but should have no visible or other
>>>>>> effect on what you actually experience during gameplay.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, it certainly did have a positive effect. The FPS cranked from
>>>>> a limited 60 fps to well over 200 fps. And indeed, the game does
>>>>> not suffer in any way visually.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill M.
>>>>
>>>> There are SOME games that may appear to have tearing of the
>>>> textures, often with black lines in the torn looking edges.
>>>> Enabling VSync will help that issue.  However, the problem might
>>>> turn up with my system and not yours with the same game.   I'm glad
>>>> your system is bullish enough to do Quake in high res without vsync
>>>> :) BTW-  GLQuake cannot do 32 bit color depth in any resolution
>>>> higher than 800x600.  But the game itself is 16 bit depth so just
>>>> play it with 1280x1024-16 like I do.  Looks pretty good, especially
>>>> since the day when I was running at 320x240-16 and tweaking like
>>>> crazy to get a couple more frames per second!   Who back then would
>>>> have though we'd be playing it maxed out in hundreds of frames per
>>>> second?! LOL! McG.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Indeed. It's also ironic that I upgraded my first 386SX-16 to a
>>> 486DX-33 because of DOOM, then I upgraded to a Pentium 100 because of
>>> Quake. Now I have a system a dozen times more powerful - and yet I've
>>> gone back to the two games that hardly need this kind of power.
>>>
>>> Bill M.
>>
>> Same here Bill.  They were just more fun :)   There has never been
>> anything to top Quake and Quake2 for CTF.   There have been a few
>> weekends where i'd get a very GOOD 28.8 connection and i'd watch the
>> sun go down, then come up again while sitting right here at this very
>> desk!  I've even fallen asleep a couple times while playing Quake CTF
>> online! So now, when *I* have the connection, the hardware.... nobody
>> is playing it
>>:(
>> McG.
>>
>>
>>
> No doubt you, like I, also dreamed DOOM / Quake. I recall driving along
> seeing a guy walking past a garbage can barrel and thinking, "I should
> shoot that barrel". Also in a restaurant, there was a large fan ceiling
> and I thought, "I got chopped up in that the other day ... wait, that
> was Quake."
>
> I'm still going through Quake in solo mode, and still marveling at the
> nostalgia factor. But with Fuhquake down, and QuakeWorld (through
> GameSpy) pretty much non-existent, are there any dependable eQuake
> servers? The front-end launcher doesn't give much info as to which
> server is active, and those few that I've gone in (because of my solo
> play focus) have been inactive too.
>
> Bill M.
>

no, I have also been playing it solo.  I'd love to see a few QW servers up. 
I still use a middle aged GameSpy3D.  We might try the All Seeing Eye, and 
see what pops up there.
I could set up a listen server if I knew I was to have company.  I'd have to 
forward the ports and give someone the IP.  Ah yes, and set up a map 
rotation and whatever other stuff I've forgotten over the years :)
McG. 

"McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in
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> 
> "Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message 
> news:Xns9709E7042B441wbmclexcitecom@216.196.97.131...
>> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:k2vcf.33$3K6.9@tornado.texas.rr.com:
>>
>>>
>>> "Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Xns970981E3FBE89wbmclexcitecom@65.24.3.135...
>>>> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in
>>>> news:%19cf.82564$GQ.18213@tornado.texas.rr.com:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Xns97087C205289Fwbmclexcitecom@65.24.3.135...
>>>>>> "Matthew Vaughan" <matt-no-spam-109@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>> news:YQFbf.2432$te3.39244@typhoon.sonic.net:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:Xns970587EC84094wbmclexcitecom@65.24.3.135...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Would editing the vsync still be positive and if so how? I
>>>>>>>> don't see it in the control panel/display settings. The Sony
>>>>>>>> can do 75Hz at 1024 and if the FPS cranks, I'd drop the
>>>>>>>> resolution down to that, providing I can set the vsync to make
>>>>>>>> that work. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Editing the vsync setting would certainly change your *timedemo*
>>>>>>> results in a positive way, but should have no visible or other
>>>>>>> effect on what you actually experience during gameplay.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, it certainly did have a positive effect. The FPS cranked
>>>>>> from a limited 60 fps to well over 200 fps. And indeed, the game
>>>>>> does not suffer in any way visually.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill M.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are SOME games that may appear to have tearing of the
>>>>> textures, often with black lines in the torn looking edges.
>>>>> Enabling VSync will help that issue.  However, the problem might
>>>>> turn up with my system and not yours with the same game.   I'm
>>>>> glad your system is bullish enough to do Quake in high res without
>>>>> vsync 
>>>>> :) BTW-  GLQuake cannot do 32 bit color depth in any resolution
>>>>> higher than 800x600.  But the game itself is 16 bit depth so just
>>>>> play it with 1280x1024-16 like I do.  Looks pretty good,
>>>>> especially since the day when I was running at 320x240-16 and
>>>>> tweaking like crazy to get a couple more frames per second!   Who
>>>>> back then would have though we'd be playing it maxed out in
>>>>> hundreds of frames per second?! LOL! McG.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Indeed. It's also ironic that I upgraded my first 386SX-16 to a
>>>> 486DX-33 because of DOOM, then I upgraded to a Pentium 100 because
>>>> of Quake. Now I have a system a dozen times more powerful - and yet
>>>> I've gone back to the two games that hardly need this kind of
>>>> power. 
>>>>
>>>> Bill M.
>>>
>>> Same here Bill.  They were just more fun :)   There has never been
>>> anything to top Quake and Quake2 for CTF.   There have been a few
>>> weekends where i'd get a very GOOD 28.8 connection and i'd watch the
>>> sun go down, then come up again while sitting right here at this
>>> very desk!  I've even fallen asleep a couple times while playing
>>> Quake CTF online! So now, when *I* have the connection, the
>>> hardware.... nobody is playing it
>>>:(
>>> McG.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> No doubt you, like I, also dreamed DOOM / Quake. I recall driving
>> along seeing a guy walking past a garbage can barrel and thinking, "I
>> should shoot that barrel". Also in a restaurant, there was a large
>> fan ceiling and I thought, "I got chopped up in that the other day
>> ... wait, that was Quake."
>>
>> I'm still going through Quake in solo mode, and still marveling at
>> the nostalgia factor. But with Fuhquake down, and QuakeWorld (through
>> GameSpy) pretty much non-existent, are there any dependable eQuake
>> servers? The front-end launcher doesn't give much info as to which
>> server is active, and those few that I've gone in (because of my solo
>> play focus) have been inactive too.
>>
>> Bill M.
>>
> 
> no, I have also been playing it solo.  I'd love to see a few QW
> servers up. I still use a middle aged GameSpy3D.  We might try the All
> Seeing Eye, and see what pops up there.
> I could set up a listen server if I knew I was to have company.  I'd
> have to forward the ports and give someone the IP.  Ah yes, and set up
> a map rotation and whatever other stuff I've forgotten over the years
> :) McG. 
> 
> 
> 

You can count me in when the time is right for some 1-on-1 
Quake/QuakeWorld, if not general melee. I"m nearly done with the solo 
play, though I may go through it again with the newly installed eQuake 
just to check out it's superior graphics. I've never heard of the "All 
Seeing Eye" - do you have a link? And can you upload the old GameSpy to 
a binaries group? I"d just as soon uninstall this more bloated version.

Bill M.

"Bill M."
snip
> You can count me in when the time is right for some 1-on-1
> Quake/QuakeWorld, if not general melee. I"m nearly done with the solo
> play, though I may go through it again with the newly installed eQuake
> just to check out it's superior graphics. I've never heard of the "All
> Seeing Eye" - do you have a link? And can you upload the old GameSpy to
> a binaries group? I"d just as soon uninstall this more bloated version.
>
> Bill M.

Happy to.  I'll be running GLQW or GLQuake.

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/Other-Internet-Related/All-Seeing-Eye.shtml
for one place to get the ASE game browser.

McG. 

"McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in
news:MyMdf.11714$3K6.3969@tornado.texas.rr.com: 

> 
> "Bill M."
> snip
>> You can count me in when the time is right for some 1-on-1
>> Quake/QuakeWorld, if not general melee. I"m nearly done with the solo
>> play, though I may go through it again with the newly installed
>> eQuake just to check out it's superior graphics. I've never heard of
>> the "All Seeing Eye" - do you have a link? And can you upload the old
>> GameSpy to a binaries group? I"d just as soon uninstall this more
>> bloated version. 
>>
>> Bill M.
> 
> Happy to.  I'll be running GLQW or GLQuake.
> 
> http://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/Other-Internet-Related/All-Seeing
> -Eye.shtml for one place to get the ASE game browser.
> 
> McG. 
> 
> 

I d/led, installed it and tried it out ... I need to point it to my GLQuake 
and not regulard old pixelated Quake ... I got wiped out as I'm woefully 
"out of shape".

Bill M.

"Bill M." <wbmcl@removexcite.com> wrote in message 
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> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in
> news:MyMdf.11714$3K6.3969@tornado.texas.rr.com:
>
>>
>> "Bill M."
>> snip
>>> You can count me in when the time is right for some 1-on-1
>>> Quake/QuakeWorld, if not general melee. I"m nearly done with the solo
>>> play, though I may go through it again with the newly installed
>>> eQuake just to check out it's superior graphics. I've never heard of
>>> the "All Seeing Eye" - do you have a link? And can you upload the old
>>> GameSpy to a binaries group? I"d just as soon uninstall this more
>>> bloated version.
>>>
>>> Bill M.
>>
>> Happy to.  I'll be running GLQW or GLQuake.
>>
>> http://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/Other-Internet-Related/All-Seeing
>> -Eye.shtml for one place to get the ASE game browser.
>>
>> McG.
>>
>>
>
> I d/led, installed it and tried it out ... I need to point it to my 
> GLQuake
> and not regulard old pixelated Quake ... I got wiped out as I'm woefully
> "out of shape".
>
> Bill M.

Yeh, that happened to me too :)  It sure brought back memories, The 
Installation CTF.  For a little while I was the only one in there.  Then the 
sysop hops in and clobbers me.   Guess I was a bit too eager to just get in 
there and play, I didn't even have my keys configed!  Heh!  BUT, it's 
working well now, for both of us.
McG.