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Started by Martin Welch
Wed, 02 Nov 2005 09:30
Quake IV Performance Question(s)
Author: Martin Welch
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 09:30
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 09:30
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Hi, Just built a new Athlon XP3000, ASUS A8N-SLi, 512Mb, 7800GT box to play Quake IV which is great - 60fps at 1024x768 High detail (which is all my flat screen will allow). The box is running W2KPro, by the way. But.... The game stutters. To be specific: the game briefly slows (1-2 sec) to <10 fps when I enter a new area of a map that contains monsters. Then the game goes back to 60fps. Is this normal - does this stuttering occur no matter what machine you have? I've tried changing the following in Quake4Config.cfg: seta image_useCache "1" seta image_cacheMegs "256" seta image_cacheMinK "16384" This seemed to improve things a bit but the game still stutters. I've also read conflicting descriptions - one says that these settings influence the amount of RAM used by the game, the other suggests it's the amount of swap file space used. Does anyone know the correct answer? Is the cause of the stuttering down to insufficient memory? If not, does anyone have any other suggestions? I'd really appreciate any help. Martin
Re: Quake IV Performance Question(s)
Author: Apathy
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 11:33
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 11:33
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The best help I could offer would be checking out http://ucguides.savagehelp.com/Quake4/FPSConfigs.htm and just using trial and error. Try the lower quality configs and see if you can narrow it down to a specific setting. On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 09:30:31 +0000, Martin Welch <martin@welch.co.uk.eclipse> wrote: >Hi, > >Just built a new Athlon XP3000, ASUS A8N-SLi, 512Mb, 7800GT box to play >Quake IV which is great - 60fps at 1024x768 High detail (which is all my >flat screen will allow). The box is running W2KPro, by the way. > >But.... > >The game stutters. To be specific: the game briefly slows (1-2 sec) to ><10 fps when I enter a new area of a map that contains monsters. Then >the game goes back to 60fps. > >Is this normal - does this stuttering occur no matter what machine you have? > >I've tried changing the following in Quake4Config.cfg: > >seta image_useCache "1" >seta image_cacheMegs "256" >seta image_cacheMinK "16384" > >This seemed to improve things a bit but the game still stutters. I've >also read conflicting descriptions - one says that these settings >influence the amount of RAM used by the game, the other suggests it's >the amount of swap file space used. Does anyone know the correct answer? > >Is the cause of the stuttering down to insufficient memory? > >If not, does anyone have any other suggestions? > >I'd really appreciate any help. > >Martin Apathy[AGQx] Ipsa Scientia Potentia Est>>===> Illiterate? Write here for help: http://www.p0rn0finish.org
Re: Quake IV Performance Question(s)
Author: Scratcher
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 12:51
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 12:51
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"Martin Welch" <martin@welch.co.uk.eclipse> wrote in message news:Cd2dnR4wjd6LGvXenZ2dnUVZ8qGdnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk... > Hi, > > Just built a new Athlon XP3000, ASUS A8N-SLi, 512Mb, 7800GT box to play > Quake IV which is great - 60fps at 1024x768 High detail (which is all my > flat screen will allow). The box is running W2KPro, by the way. > > But.... > > The game stutters. To be specific: the game briefly slows (1-2 sec) to <10 > fps when I enter a new area of a map that contains monsters. Then the game > goes back to 60fps. > > Is this normal - does this stuttering occur no matter what machine you > have? > > I've tried changing the following in Quake4Config.cfg: > > seta image_useCache "1" > seta image_cacheMegs "256" > seta image_cacheMinK "16384" > > This seemed to improve things a bit but the game still stutters. I've also > read conflicting descriptions - one says that these settings influence the > amount of RAM used by the game, the other suggests it's the amount of swap > file space used. Does anyone know the correct answer? > > Is the cause of the stuttering down to insufficient memory? > > If not, does anyone have any other suggestions? > > I'd really appreciate any help. > > Martin It runs smooth on my computer, no stuttering or lag at all. Athlon 64 X2 3800 Asus A8N SLI 1GB Corsair PC3200 Memory I don't like telling people to spend more money, but I would add RAM if it were me. Rob pF.Scratcher
Re: Quake IV Performance Question(s)
Author: Martin Welch
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 13:56
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 13:56
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Thanks. That document is the key document I used to tune performance. They reckon image_useCache determines memory rather than swapfile. I'm convinced that memory is my problem - I'll drop another 512Mb stick in to see if it makes any difference. Apathy wrote: > The best help I could offer would be checking out > > http://ucguides.savagehelp.com/Quake4/FPSConfigs.htm > > and just using trial and error. > > Try the lower quality configs and see if you can narrow it down to a specific setting. > > > On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 09:30:31 +0000, Martin Welch <martin@welch.co.uk.eclipse> wrote: > > >>Hi, >> >>Just built a new Athlon XP3000, ASUS A8N-SLi, 512Mb, 7800GT box to play >>Quake IV which is great - 60fps at 1024x768 High detail (which is all my >>flat screen will allow). The box is running W2KPro, by the way. >> >>But.... >> >>The game stutters. To be specific: the game briefly slows (1-2 sec) to >><10 fps when I enter a new area of a map that contains monsters. Then >>the game goes back to 60fps. >> >>Is this normal - does this stuttering occur no matter what machine you have? >> >>I've tried changing the following in Quake4Config.cfg: >> >>seta image_useCache "1" >>seta image_cacheMegs "256" >>seta image_cacheMinK "16384" >> >>This seemed to improve things a bit but the game still stutters. I've >>also read conflicting descriptions - one says that these settings >>influence the amount of RAM used by the game, the other suggests it's >>the amount of swap file space used. Does anyone know the correct answer? >> >>Is the cause of the stuttering down to insufficient memory? >> >>If not, does anyone have any other suggestions? >> >>I'd really appreciate any help. >> >>Martin > > > Apathy[AGQx] > Ipsa Scientia Potentia Est>>===> > Illiterate? Write here for help: > http://www.p0rn0finish.org
Re: Quake IV Performance Question(s)
Author: Martin Welch
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 13:56
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 13:56
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Thanks. That document is the key document I used to tune performance. They reckon image_useCache determines memory rather than swapfile. I'm convinced that memory is my problem - I'll drop another 512Mb stick in to see if it makes any difference. Apathy wrote: > The best help I could offer would be checking out > > http://ucguides.savagehelp.com/Quake4/FPSConfigs.htm > > and just using trial and error. > > Try the lower quality configs and see if you can narrow it down to a specific setting. > > > On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 09:30:31 +0000, Martin Welch <martin@welch.co.uk.eclipse> wrote: > > >>Hi, >> >>Just built a new Athlon XP3000, ASUS A8N-SLi, 512Mb, 7800GT box to play >>Quake IV which is great - 60fps at 1024x768 High detail (which is all my >>flat screen will allow). The box is running W2KPro, by the way. >> >>But.... >> >>The game stutters. To be specific: the game briefly slows (1-2 sec) to >><10 fps when I enter a new area of a map that contains monsters. Then >>the game goes back to 60fps. >> >>Is this normal - does this stuttering occur no matter what machine you have? >> >>I've tried changing the following in Quake4Config.cfg: >> >>seta image_useCache "1" >>seta image_cacheMegs "256" >>seta image_cacheMinK "16384" >> >>This seemed to improve things a bit but the game still stutters. I've >>also read conflicting descriptions - one says that these settings >>influence the amount of RAM used by the game, the other suggests it's >>the amount of swap file space used. Does anyone know the correct answer? >> >>Is the cause of the stuttering down to insufficient memory? >> >>If not, does anyone have any other suggestions? >> >>I'd really appreciate any help. >> >>Martin > > > Apathy[AGQx] > Ipsa Scientia Potentia Est>>===> > Illiterate? Write here for help: > http://www.p0rn0finish.org
Re: Quake IV Performance Question(s)
Author: Martin Welch
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 13:56
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 13:56
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Thanks. That document is the key document I used to tune performance. They reckon image_useCache determines memory rather than swapfile. I'm convinced that memory is my problem - I'll drop another 512Mb stick in to see if it makes any difference. Apathy wrote: > The best help I could offer would be checking out > > http://ucguides.savagehelp.com/Quake4/FPSConfigs.htm > > and just using trial and error. > > Try the lower quality configs and see if you can narrow it down to a specific setting. > > > On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 09:30:31 +0000, Martin Welch <martin@welch.co.uk.eclipse> wrote: > > >>Hi, >> >>Just built a new Athlon XP3000, ASUS A8N-SLi, 512Mb, 7800GT box to play >>Quake IV which is great - 60fps at 1024x768 High detail (which is all my >>flat screen will allow). The box is running W2KPro, by the way. >> >>But.... >> >>The game stutters. To be specific: the game briefly slows (1-2 sec) to >><10 fps when I enter a new area of a map that contains monsters. Then >>the game goes back to 60fps. >> >>Is this normal - does this stuttering occur no matter what machine you have? >> >>I've tried changing the following in Quake4Config.cfg: >> >>seta image_useCache "1" >>seta image_cacheMegs "256" >>seta image_cacheMinK "16384" >> >>This seemed to improve things a bit but the game still stutters. I've >>also read conflicting descriptions - one says that these settings >>influence the amount of RAM used by the game, the other suggests it's >>the amount of swap file space used. Does anyone know the correct answer? >> >>Is the cause of the stuttering down to insufficient memory? >> >>If not, does anyone have any other suggestions? >> >>I'd really appreciate any help. >> >>Martin > > > Apathy[AGQx] > Ipsa Scientia Potentia Est>>===> > Illiterate? Write here for help: > http://www.p0rn0finish.org
Re: Quake IV Performance Question(s)
Author: Inglo
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 14:50
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 14:50
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On 11/2/2005 4:51 AM Scratcher brightened our day with: >"Martin Welch" <martin@welch.co.uk.eclipse> wrote in message >news:Cd2dnR4wjd6LGvXenZ2dnUVZ8qGdnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk... > > >>Hi, >> >>Just built a new Athlon XP3000, ASUS A8N-SLi, 512Mb, 7800GT box to play >>Quake IV which is great - 60fps at 1024x768 High detail (which is all my >>flat screen will allow). The box is running W2KPro, by the way. >> >>But.... >> >>The game stutters. To be specific: the game briefly slows (1-2 sec) to <10 >>fps when I enter a new area of a map that contains monsters. Then the game >>goes back to 60fps. >> >>Is this normal - does this stuttering occur no matter what machine you >>have? >> >>I've tried changing the following in Quake4Config.cfg: >> >>seta image_useCache "1" >>seta image_cacheMegs "256" >>seta image_cacheMinK "16384" >> >>This seemed to improve things a bit but the game still stutters. I've also >>read conflicting descriptions - one says that these settings influence the >>amount of RAM used by the game, the other suggests it's the amount of swap >>file space used. Does anyone know the correct answer? >> >>Is the cause of the stuttering down to insufficient memory? >> >>If not, does anyone have any other suggestions? >> >>I'd really appreciate any help. >> >>Martin >> >> > >It runs smooth on my computer, no stuttering or lag at all. > >Athlon 64 X2 3800 >Asus A8N SLI >1GB Corsair PC3200 Memory > >I don't like telling people to spend more money, but I would add RAM if it >were me. > >Rob >pF.Scratcher > > > > I didn't even recognize you without the pF. I'd defragment my hard drive before buying more RAM. -- Steve ¤»Inglo«¤ www.inglostadt.com
Re: Quake IV Performance Question(s)
Author: Erik Max Francis
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 20:51
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 20:51
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Martin Welch wrote: > That document is the key document I used to tune performance. They > reckon image_useCache determines memory rather than swapfile. > > I'm convinced that memory is my problem - I'll drop another 512Mb stick > in to see if it makes any difference. The symptoms you describe are almost always associated with swapping, which means that you don't have quite enough memory. As areas are being paged in, there's disk activity, which kills the framerate. Once everything has stabilized, it runs smoothly. -- Erik Max Francis && max@alcyone.com && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM erikmaxfrancis The basis of optimism is sheer terror. -- Oscar Wilde
Re: Quake IV Performance Question(s)
Author: McGrandpa
Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 01:35
Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 01:35
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"Martin Welch" <martin@welch.co.uk.eclipse> wrote in message news:Cd2dnR4wjd6LGvXenZ2dnUVZ8qGdnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk... > Hi, > > Just built a new Athlon XP3000, ASUS A8N-SLi, 512Mb, 7800GT box to play > Quake IV which is great - 60fps at 1024x768 High detail (which is all my > flat screen will allow). The box is running W2KPro, by the way. > > But.... > > The game stutters. To be specific: the game briefly slows (1-2 sec) to <10 > fps when I enter a new area of a map that contains monsters. Then the game > goes back to 60fps. Your biggest improvment may be another half gig of ram. There are folks running Q4 with lesser CPU's and video cards that get fr's in the 40's to 50's steady, without the stutters. But they have a gig or more of ram. McG. > > Is this normal - does this stuttering occur no matter what machine you > have? > > I've tried changing the following in Quake4Config.cfg: > > seta image_useCache "1" > seta image_cacheMegs "256" > seta image_cacheMinK "16384" > > This seemed to improve things a bit but the game still stutters. I've also > read conflicting descriptions - one says that these settings influence the > amount of RAM used by the game, the other suggests it's the amount of swap > file space used. Does anyone know the correct answer? > > Is the cause of the stuttering down to insufficient memory? > > If not, does anyone have any other suggestions? > > I'd really appreciate any help. > > Martin
Re: Quake IV Performance Question(s)
Author: Martin Welch
Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 10:53
Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 10:53
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Another 512Mb stick did the trick. Ace! Thanks for your help. McGrandpa wrote: > "Martin Welch" <martin@welch.co.uk.eclipse> wrote in message > news:Cd2dnR4wjd6LGvXenZ2dnUVZ8qGdnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk... > >>Hi, >> >>Just built a new Athlon XP3000, ASUS A8N-SLi, 512Mb, 7800GT box to play >>Quake IV which is great - 60fps at 1024x768 High detail (which is all my >>flat screen will allow). The box is running W2KPro, by the way. >> >>But.... >> >>The game stutters. To be specific: the game briefly slows (1-2 sec) to <10 >>fps when I enter a new area of a map that contains monsters. Then the game >>goes back to 60fps. > > > Your biggest improvment may be another half gig of ram. There are folks > running Q4 with lesser CPU's and video cards that get fr's in the 40's to > 50's steady, without the stutters. But they have a gig or more of ram. > McG. > > >>Is this normal - does this stuttering occur no matter what machine you >>have? >> >>I've tried changing the following in Quake4Config.cfg: >> >>seta image_useCache "1" >>seta image_cacheMegs "256" >>seta image_cacheMinK "16384" >> >>This seemed to improve things a bit but the game still stutters. I've also >>read conflicting descriptions - one says that these settings influence the >>amount of RAM used by the game, the other suggests it's the amount of swap >>file space used. Does anyone know the correct answer? >> >>Is the cause of the stuttering down to insufficient memory? >> >>If not, does anyone have any other suggestions? >> >>I'd really appreciate any help. >> >>Martin > > >
Re: Quake IV Performance Question(s)
Author: McGrandpa
Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 02:03
Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 02:03
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"Martin Welch" <martin@welch.co.uk.eclipse> wrote in message news:4sednSFay6kNoPbeRVnytQ@eclipse.net.uk... > Another 512Mb stick did the trick. > > Ace! > > Thanks for your help. > snip You're welcome! McG.
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