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Nathan Palovcik (am...@elycion.geology.ualberta.ca) wrote:
: I will give C&C high marks for it's humour, the music & SFX, IMHO better than 
: Warcraft.  'Daboo!' just can't measure up against blood-curdling death 
: screams. ;>

I find C&C a much better game design because there are different tactics
if you play different sides. For WCII, we have the exact same units on
both sides, so there really is no difference which side you play.
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Nathan Palovcik (am...@elycion.geology.ualberta.ca) wrote:

: HOWEVER..
: I'd still have to say I prefer Warcraft, cause although it has big problems 
: like the 9-unit control limit, and the dumbassed custom map AI, it has a
: lot more options and feeps (if you're a MUCKer, you know what a feep is)
Ok, now. What's a feep?

: #1.  And this is the biggest for most players of both, I'm sure..  C&C doesn't 
: allow you to design custom maps.  You can play the campaign, or you can play 
Hey! Ever heard about C&C levels editors out there in the net!
I'm designing C&C levels every day! (well, almost).

: multi-player, which really limits it.  I know people who've finished both
: GDI & Nod missions.  What do they do now?  Go out & buy Covert Missions,
: my friends who've finished Warcraft just design their own new maps for free.
Hey, so can we!!!

: #2.  C&C's graphics don't have the same detail that Warcraft does. Admittedl
: it's run on a much larger scale, but that's not really an excuse for the 
: infantry to be coloured stickmen. :P
If graphics are SVGA it doesn't mean that they would look better.
I personally don't like WC2 graphics!
C&C Graphics are MCGA but they really look better to my eye!

: I will give C&C high marks for it's humour, the music & SFX, IMHO better th
: Warcraft.  'Daboo!' just can't measure up against blood-curdling death 
: screams. ;>

AND WC2 also has the "fog of war"! That's great!

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ez01...@bullwinkle.ucdavis.edu (Paul Lung) wrote:

>Nathan Palovcik (am...@elycion.geology.ualberta.ca) wrote:
>: I will give C&C high marks for it's humour, the music & SFX, IMHO better than 
>: Warcraft.  'Daboo!' just can't measure up against blood-curdling death 
>: screams. ;>

>I find C&C a much better game design because there are different tactics
>if you play different sides. For WCII, we have the exact same units on
>both sides, so there really is no difference which side you play.
>-- 

I agree!  C & C has lots of variation, and is a great game overall.  I
wished C & C had SVGA graphics though, but still their cut scenes were
much better then WC II.  

Warcraft II lacks something.  It's enioyable to play, but I felt in
the game with C & C, and yet I don't feel that way with WC II.  The
sides are too similar....:/


Regards,

Tim Hayes
http://members.aol.com/thelimit

t...@nitco.com (Tim Hayes) wrote:


>I agree!  C & C has lots of variation, and is a great game overall.  I
>wished C & C had SVGA graphics though, but still their cut scenes were
>much better then WC II.  
>
>Warcraft II lacks something.  It's enioyable to play, but I felt in
>the game with C & C, and yet I don't feel that way with WC II.  The
>sides are too similar....:/

I agree. C&C Has Variation, BUT in Warcraft it almost doesn't matter
if you have 2 of the same units battleing it out. It all depends on
how much upgrading you did to it. 

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.Leave the 3d for UW!
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ez01...@bullwinkle.ucdavis.edu (Paul Lung) wrote:
>I find C&C a much better game design because there are different tactics
>if you play different sides. For WCII, we have the exact same units on
>both sides, so there really is no difference which side you play.

I like both. In C&C You have different units for the two sides (NOD, &
GDI of course), and in Warcraft there are units based the same way,
but they are different in design, power, etc.
I like Both games though


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.Keep Ultima Pure!
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blh...@kielo.uta.fi (Hanna T{hti) wrote:

>Hey! Ever heard about C&C levels editors out there in the net!
>I'm designing C&C levels every day! (well, almost).

BUT! It doesn't come with the game.

>AND WC2 also has the "fog of war"! That's great!

I like the fog of war, but there is one problem with it. It has a bug.
You can watch the enemy chop lumber. I don't mean you see the little
guy, but the lumber disappears.


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.Leave the 3d for UW!
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In article <4kju0a$4...@thor.atcon.com>, shis...@atcon.com wrote:
>t...@nitco.com (Tim Hayes) wrote:
>
>
>>I agree!  C & C has lots of variation, and is a great game overall.  I
>>wished C & C had SVGA graphics though, but still their cut scenes were
>>much better then WC II.  
>>
>>Warcraft II lacks something.  It's enioyable to play, but I felt in
>>the game with C & C, and yet I don't feel that way with WC II.  The
>>sides are too similar....:/
>
>I agree. C&C Has Variation, BUT in Warcraft it almost doesn't matter
>if you have 2 of the same units battleing it out. It all depends on
>how much upgrading you did to it. 

Yeah, this is true, I've found.  Upgrading the armor and sword on the footmen 
really make them a lot more valuable, not to mention what it does to the 
knights.  Upgrading the armor and cannons on the ships do wonders as well.  
I've not really found the upgrade to the arrows all that impressive, however.

J.

In article <4kjtrk$4...@thor.atcon.com>, shis...@atcon.com wrote:
>I like the fog of war, but there is one problem with it. It has a bug.
>You can watch the enemy chop lumber. I don't mean you see the little
>guy, but the lumber disappears.

I think you can also watch the gold mines disapear also.

And I personnaly like C&C way more than WCII.  Sure WCII has nice graphics and 
C&C has not as good as WCII, but in terms of playablity C&C absolutly kills 
WCII, and also the music in C&C is totally awesome when compared to WCII.


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John Evans
n3...@jupiter.csd.unb.ca

>In article <4kju0a$4...@thor.atcon.com>, shis...@atcon.com wrote:
>>t...@nitco.com (Tim Hayes) wrote:
>>>I agree!  C & C has lots of variation, and is a great game overall.  I
>>>wished C & C had SVGA graphics though, but still their cut scenes were
>>>much better then WC II.  
>>>Warcraft II lacks something.  It's enioyable to play, but I felt in
>>>the game with C & C, and yet I don't feel that way with WC II.  The
>>>sides are too similar....:/
>>I agree. C&C Has Variation, BUT in Warcraft it almost doesn't matter
>>if you have 2 of the same units battleing it out. It all depends on
>>how much upgrading you did to it. 
>Yeah, this is true, I've found.  Upgrading the armor and sword on the footmen 
>really make them a lot more valuable, not to mention what it does to the 
>knights.  Upgrading the armor and cannons on the ships do wonders as well.  
>I've not really found the upgrade to the arrows all that impressive, however.

A problem with the Orcs is that you only can build a Giant Turtle in
Level 13. While the Humans can build there first Submarine in Level 7.
If you start a level from WC then the beginning is a little bit hard
but if you made that it's very VERY easy to win that level.
They should make it difficult all the time (Or make a menu where you
can choose difficulty)

>>Nathan Palovcik (am...@elycion.geology.ualberta.ca) wrote:
>>: I will give C&C high marks for it's humour, the music & SFX, IMHO better than 
>>: Warcraft.  'Daboo!' just can't measure up against blood-curdling death 
>>: screams. ;>
>>I find C&C a much better game design because there are different tactics
>>if you play different sides. For WCII, we have the exact same units on
>>both sides, so there really is no difference which side you play.
>>-- 
>I agree!  C & C has lots of variation, and is a great game overall.  I
>wished C & C had SVGA graphics though, but still their cut scenes were
>much better then WC II.  
>Warcraft II lacks something.  It's enioyable to play, but I felt in
>the game with C & C, and yet I don't feel that way with WC II.  The
>sides are too similar....:/

I think the Graphics of WCII are to Childies C&C have more & Better
Action Looks... 

Bye..