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Started by kir... K. Laisathit
Wed, 26 Feb 1997 00:00
New patch, 'multiple' items deletion
Author: kir... K. Laisathit
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 00:00
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Now, I know all the joy that most anti-cheaters feel (myself included) when we hear of the new cheat prevention feature of the new patch. However, when I read into the release note, I'm not so sure if this patch is the best Blizzard could do. Don't get me wrong, I think the fact that Blizzard took the time to fix the cheat says a lot about its commitment to providing a good game. BTW, I don't feel that Blizzard is necessarily responsible for fixing the cheat. You can hardly fault car makers for making cars that some criminals use for their escapes. Anyway, back to the subject, my understanding of the dupe item is that this involve the use of the town portal trick. Now, I don't understand why Blizzard, given its intention to prevent cheating, can't fix the town portal trick. Why does it have to rely on this drop two identical objects and one of them is deleted? What happen to unique items? Countless mages are carrying Dreamflange, numerous rogues swear by their Eaglehorn or Windforce, all legiimately acquired of course. Hell, the program has been known to generate more than one unique items for a player who has already got the unique item. This reminds me of Bethesda's infamous fix of some of its bugs by disallowing some of the actions that are causing the problem. Luckily, Blizzard didn't choose to eliminate the use of town portal just to avoid the dupe trick. From now on, we'll have to ask around to see if anyone in our party has already dropped a similar item, for fear that our hard earned trophy might vanish because of this half-hearted attempt at preventing cheats. While I applaud Blizzard for its attention to players' experience, I cannot say the same thing with the way it handles the problem. How unfortunate. Later...
Re: New patch, 'multiple' items deletion
Author: Mitch Walker
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 00:00
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Since Diablo is not an ongoing game, you can't really have a "Unique" item in the world. If you want that, then check out Ultima Online when it comes out, it will do such things. (Imagine the fights over some of those items. But, again, UO will have "police" monsters that will handle such things ;) Still, this is a great game, and for them to come out with a patch this soon, is even better. Hell, in there news post, they said the cheat thing would be a different patch, if at all. but they incorporated it into this one, great. Mitch
Re: New patch, 'multiple' items deletion
Author: blood... bloodhound
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 00:00
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On 26 Feb 1997 23:25:09 GMT, kir...@u.washington.edu (K. Laisathit)
wrote:
>Now, I know all the joy that most anti-cheaters feel (myself
>included) when we hear of the new cheat prevention feature of the
>new patch. However, when I read into the release note, I'm not
>so sure if this patch is the best Blizzard could do.
>
>Don't get me wrong, I think the fact that Blizzard took the time
>to fix the cheat says a lot about its commitment to providing a
>good game. BTW, I don't feel that Blizzard is necessarily
>responsible for fixing the cheat. You can hardly fault car
>makers for making cars that some criminals use for their escapes.
>
>Anyway, back to the subject, my understanding of the dupe item
>is that this involve the use of the town portal trick. Now, I
>don't understand why Blizzard, given its intention to prevent
>cheating, can't fix the town portal trick. Why does it have to
>rely on this drop two identical objects and one of them is deleted?
>What happen to unique items? Countless mages are carrying Dreamflange,
>numerous rogues swear by their Eaglehorn or Windforce, all legiimately
>acquired of course. Hell, the program has been known to generate
>more than one unique items for a player who has already got the
>unique item.
>
>This reminds me of Bethesda's infamous fix of some of its bugs
>by disallowing some of the actions that are causing the problem.
>Luckily, Blizzard didn't choose to eliminate the use of town portal
>just to avoid the dupe trick. From now on, we'll have to ask
>around to see if anyone in our party has already dropped a similar
>item, for fear that our hard earned trophy might vanish because
>of this half-hearted attempt at preventing cheats.
>
>While I applaud Blizzard for its attention to players' experience,
>I cannot say the same thing with the way it handles the problem.
>How unfortunate.
>
>Later...
Welll... if diablo detects two items and deletes them they ARE
dupes. Diablo stores a multi-byte code with the item that serves a
couple purposes, one of which is to providea a unique code to each
item. If you find two uniques of the same name in the same level of
the same game, they will each be assigned different ID numbers. So,
the only way two items would have the same ID is if they were duped.
So if you find say .. an Obsidian Zodiac ring +20 all,+27% resist
all.. You can be fairly certain it will be safe if dropped in the
presense of a duped ring with the same stats.
Re: New patch, 'multiple' items deletion
Author: none given
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 00:00
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 00:00
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>> >>Later... > Welll... if diablo detects two items and deletes them they ARE >dupes. Diablo stores a multi-byte code with the item that serves a >couple purposes, one of which is to providea a unique code to each >item. If you find two uniques of the same name in the same level of >the same game, they will each be assigned different ID numbers. So, >the only way two items would have the same ID is if they were duped. > So if you find say .. an Obsidian Zodiac ring +20 all,+27% resist >all.. You can be fairly certain it will be safe if dropped in the >presense of a duped ring with the same stats. I was playing tonight with the new patch and I had two ears from the same person at different levels level 9 and level 11. I dropped both ears in the Diablo version 1.02 and I got the message Duplicate item detected and one of them was destroyed. These were not duped items, so why did they trigger the duped items check? (and by the way I'm not a Pkiller, the ears were from a friend who died accidently from Nova triggered at shrine)
Re: New patch, 'multiple' items deletion
Author: Deliverer
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 00:00
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 00:00
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> I was playing tonight with the new patch and I had two ears from the > same person at different levels level 9 and level 11. I dropped both > ears in the Diablo version 1.02 and I got the message Duplicate item > detected and one of them was destroyed. These were not duped items, > so why did they trigger the duped items check? > > (and by the way I'm not a Pkiller, the ears were from a friend who > died accidently from Nova triggered at shrine) I dropped two potions of rejuvenation and one of them was deleted. They were both bought at Pepin's. I thought it was weird. ==deliverer==
Re: New patch, 'multiple' items deletion
Author: blood... bloodhound
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 00:00
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On Thu, 27 Feb 1997 06:52:57 GMT, someoneelse@out.there (none given)
wrote:
>>>
>>>Later...
>> Welll... if diablo detects two items and deletes them they ARE
>>dupes. Diablo stores a multi-byte code with the item that serves a
>>couple purposes, one of which is to providea a unique code to each
>>item. If you find two uniques of the same name in the same level of
>>the same game, they will each be assigned different ID numbers. So,
>>the only way two items would have the same ID is if they were duped.
>> So if you find say .. an Obsidian Zodiac ring +20 all,+27% resist
>>all.. You can be fairly certain it will be safe if dropped in the
>>presense of a duped ring with the same stats.
>
>I was playing tonight with the new patch and I had two ears from the
>same person at different levels level 9 and level 11. I dropped both
>ears in the Diablo version 1.02 and I got the message Duplicate item
>detected and one of them was destroyed. These were not duped items,
>so why did they trigger the duped items check?
>
Ok , I think I was wrong, the game generates a semi random number
each time you select "new game". It then meshes this with the various
stats of the item to get its ID. So then, two of the same items from
separate games should not trigger it. But if you find two items of the
same kind in the SAME game then Diablo will call them dupes.
Re: New patch, 'multiple' items deletion
Author: Matthew Kusick
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 00:00
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 00:00
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So what your telling me is if I drop 2 potions of full mana one will get destroyed??? bloodhound <blood...@inter.net> wrote in article <3315912...@news.alt.net>... > On Thu, 27 Feb 1997 06:52:57 GMT, someoneelse@out.there (none given) > wrote: > > >>> > >>>Later... > >> Welll... if diablo detects two items and deletes them they ARE > >>dupes. Diablo stores a multi-byte code with the item that serves a > >>couple purposes, one of which is to providea a unique code to each > >>item. If you find two uniques of the same name in the same level of > >>the same game, they will each be assigned different ID numbers. So, > >>the only way two items would have the same ID is if they were duped. > >> So if you find say .. an Obsidian Zodiac ring +20 all,+27% resist > >>all.. You can be fairly certain it will be safe if dropped in the > >>presense of a duped ring with the same stats. > > > >I was playing tonight with the new patch and I had two ears from the > >same person at different levels level 9 and level 11. I dropped both > >ears in the Diablo version 1.02 and I got the message Duplicate item > >detected and one of them was destroyed. These were not duped items, > >so why did they trigger the duped items check? > > > Ok , I think I was wrong, the game generates a semi random number > each time you select "new game". It then meshes this with the various > stats of the item to get its ID. So then, two of the same items from > separate games should not trigger it. But if you find two items of the > same kind in the SAME game then Diablo will call them dupes. >
Re: New patch, 'multiple' items deletion
Author: James Carter
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 00:00
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BC24A8.65E45620 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NO! Matthew Kusick <Blast...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in article <01bc24c7$9bb8c280$4c6874cf@default>... > So what your telling me is if I drop 2 potions of full mana one will get > destroyed??? > > bloodhound <blood...@inter.net> wrote in article > <3315912...@news.alt.net>... > > On Thu, 27 Feb 1997 06:52:57 GMT, someoneelse@out.there (none given) > > wrote: > > > > >>> > > >>>Later... > > >> Welll... if diablo detects two items and deletes them they ARE > > >>dupes. Diablo stores a multi-byte code with the item that serves a > > >>couple purposes, one of which is to providea a unique code to each > > >>item. If you find two uniques of the same name in the same level of > > >>the same game, they will each be assigned different ID numbers. So, > > >>the only way two items would have the same ID is if they were duped. > > >> So if you find say .. an Obsidian Zodiac ring +20 all,+27% resist > > >>all.. You can be fairly certain it will be safe if dropped in the > > >>presense of a duped ring with the same stats. > > > > > >I was playing tonight with the new patch and I had two ears from the > > >same person at different levels level 9 and level 11. I dropped both > > >ears in the Diablo version 1.02 and I got the message Duplicate item > > >detected and one of them was destroyed. These were not duped items, > > >so why did they trigger the duped items check? > > > > > Ok , I think I was wrong, the game generates a semi random number > > each time you select "new game". It then meshes this with the various > > stats of the item to get its ID. So then, two of the same items from > > separate games should not trigger it. But if you find two items of the > > same kind in the SAME game then Diablo will call them dupes. > > > ------=_NextPart_000_01BC24A8.65E45620 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><head></head><BODY bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"><p><font size=3D2 = color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Arial">NO!<br><br><br><br>Matthew Kusick = <<font color=3D"#0000FF"><u>Blast...@worldnet.att.net</u><font = color=3D"#000000">> wrote in article <<font = color=3D"#0000FF"><u>01bc24c7$9bb8c280$4c6874cf@default</u><font = color=3D"#000000">>...<br>> So what your telling me is if I drop 2 = potions of full mana one will get<br>> destroyed???<br>> <br>> = bloodhound <<font color=3D"#0000FF"><u>blood...@inter.net</u><font = color=3D"#000000">> wrote in article<br>> <<font = color=3D"#0000FF"><u>3315912...@news.alt.net</u><font = color=3D"#000000">>...<br>> > On Thu, 27 Feb 1997 06:52:57 GMT, = <font color=3D"#0000FF"><u>someoneelse@out.there</u><font = color=3D"#000000"> (none given)<br>> > wrote:<br>> > = <br>> > >>><br>> > >>>Later...<br>> = > >> Welll... if diablo detects two items and = deletes them they ARE<br>> > >>dupes. Diablo stores a = multi-byte code with the item that serves a<br>> > >>couple = purposes, one of which is to providea a unique code to each<br>> > = >>item. If you find two uniques of the same name in the same level = of<br>> > >>the same game, they will each be assigned = different ID numbers. So,<br>> > >>the only way two items = would have the same ID is if they were duped.<br>> > >> = So if you find say .. an Obsidian Zodiac ring +20 = all,+27% resist<br>> > >>all.. You can be fairly certain it = will be safe if dropped in the<br>> > >>presense of a duped = ring with the same stats.<br>> > ><br>> > >I was = playing tonight with the new patch and I had two ears from the<br>> = > >same person at different levels level 9 and level 11. I = dropped both<br>> > >ears in the Diablo version 1.02 and I got = the message Duplicate item<br>> > >detected and one of them was = destroyed. These were not duped items,<br>> > >so why did = they trigger the duped items check?<br>> > ><br>> > = Ok , I think I was wrong, the game generates a = semi random number<br>> > each time you select "new = game". It then meshes this with the various<br>> > = stats of the item to get its ID. So then, two of the same items = from<br>> > separate games should not trigger it. But if you find = two items of the<br>> > same kind in the SAME game then Diablo = will call them dupes.<br>> > <br>> </p> </font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></f= ont></body></html> ------=_NextPart_000_01BC24A8.65E45620--
Re: New patch, 'multiple' items deletion
Author: blood... bloodhound
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 00:00
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On 27 Feb 1997 15:55:25 GMT, "Matthew Kusick" <Blast...@worldnet.att.net> wrote: >bloodhound <blood...@inter.net> wrote in article ><3315912...@news.alt.net>... >> On Thu, 27 Feb 1997 06:52:57 GMT, someoneelse@out.there (none given) >> wrote: >> >> >>> >> >>>Later... >> >> Welll... if diablo detects two items and deletes them they ARE >> >>dupes. Diablo stores a multi-byte code with the item that serves a >> >>couple purposes, one of which is to providea a unique code to each >> >>item. If you find two uniques of the same name in the same level of >> >>the same game, they will each be assigned different ID numbers. So, >> >>the only way two items would have the same ID is if they were duped. >> >> So if you find say .. an Obsidian Zodiac ring +20 all,+27% resist >> >>all.. You can be fairly certain it will be safe if dropped in the >> >>presense of a duped ring with the same stats. >> > >> >I was playing tonight with the new patch and I had two ears from the >> >same person at different levels level 9 and level 11. I dropped both >> >ears in the Diablo version 1.02 and I got the message Duplicate item >> >detected and one of them was destroyed. These were not duped items, >> >so why did they trigger the duped items check? >> > >> Ok , I think I was wrong, the game generates a semi random number >> each time you select "new game". It then meshes this with the various >> stats of the item to get its ID. So then, two of the same items from >> separate games should not trigger it. But if you find two items of the >> same kind in the SAME game then Diablo will call them dupes. >> >So what your telling me is if I drop 2 potions of full mana one will get >destroyed??? > I havent had that happen but I have heard it happen with other items from the same game (like the ears above). I'm not sure how it works. All my knowedge comes from debugging version 1.0.. Maybe Diablo doesn't perform the dupe check on certain items like potions and gold? Ill experiment a little more with triggering dupe checks in the near future :)
Re: New patch, 'multiple' items deletion
Author: James Carter
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 00:00
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It does not do the dupe check for mana and health potions but it
does do it for the elixers. Only put one down at a time or you will be
throwing them away. I can see the need to stop some of the cheating
but it is not right that two ppl can't have the same item if they got it
legit.
CatsPaw
bloodhound <blood...@inter.net> wrote in article
<3315c2b...@news.alt.net>...
> On 27 Feb 1997 15:55:25 GMT, "Matthew Kusick"
> <Blast...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >bloodhound <blood...@inter.net> wrote in article
> ><3315912...@news.alt.net>...
> >> On Thu, 27 Feb 1997 06:52:57 GMT, someoneelse@out.there (none given)
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Later...
> >> >> Welll... if diablo detects two items and deletes them they ARE
> >> >>dupes. Diablo stores a multi-byte code with the item that serves a
> >> >>couple purposes, one of which is to providea a unique code to each
> >> >>item. If you find two uniques of the same name in the same level of
> >> >>the same game, they will each be assigned different ID numbers. So,
> >> >>the only way two items would have the same ID is if they were duped.
> >> >> So if you find say .. an Obsidian Zodiac ring +20 all,+27%
resist
> >> >>all.. You can be fairly certain it will be safe if dropped in the
> >> >>presense of a duped ring with the same stats.
> >> >
> >> >I was playing tonight with the new patch and I had two ears from the
> >> >same person at different levels level 9 and level 11. I dropped both
> >> >ears in the Diablo version 1.02 and I got the message Duplicate item
> >> >detected and one of them was destroyed. These were not duped items,
> >> >so why did they trigger the duped items check?
> >> >
> >> Ok , I think I was wrong, the game generates a semi random number
> >> each time you select "new game". It then meshes this with the various
> >> stats of the item to get its ID. So then, two of the same items from
> >> separate games should not trigger it. But if you find two items of the
> >> same kind in the SAME game then Diablo will call them dupes.
> >>
> >So what your telling me is if I drop 2 potions of full mana one will get
> >destroyed???
> >
> I havent had that happen but I have heard it happen with other
> items from the same game (like the ears above). I'm not sure how it
> works. All my knowedge comes from debugging version 1.0..
> Maybe Diablo doesn't perform the dupe check on certain items like
> potions and gold? Ill experiment a little more with triggering dupe
> checks in the near future :)
>
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and health potions but it<br>does do it for the elixers. Only put =
one down at a time or you will be<br>throwing them away. I can see =
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<br>> >> >>><br>> >> =
>>>Later...<br>> >> >> =
Welll... if diablo detects two items and deletes them =
they ARE<br>> >> >>dupes. Diablo stores a multi-byte code =
with the item that serves a<br>> >> >>couple purposes, =
one of which is to providea a unique code to each<br>> >> =
>>item. If you find two uniques of the same name in the same level =
of<br>> >> >>the same game, they will each be assigned =
different ID numbers. So,<br>> >> >>the only way two =
items would have the same ID is if they were duped.<br>> >> =
>> So if you find say .. an Obsidian Zodiac ring =
+20 all,+27% resist<br>> >> >>all.. You can be fairly =
certain it will be safe if dropped in the<br>> >> =
>>presense of a duped ring with the same stats.<br>> >> =
><br>> >> >I was playing tonight with the new patch and I =
had two ears from the<br>> >> >same person at different =
levels level 9 and level 11. I dropped both<br>> >> =
>ears in the Diablo version 1.02 and I got the message Duplicate =
item<br>> >> >detected and one of them was destroyed. =
These were not duped items,<br>> >> >so why did they =
trigger the duped items check?<br>> >> ><br>> >> =
Ok , I think I was wrong, the game generates a =
semi random number<br>> >> each time you select "new =
game". It then meshes this with the various<br>> >> =
stats of the item to get its ID. So then, two of the same items =
from<br>> >> separate games should not trigger it. But if you =
find two items of the<br>> >> same kind in the SAME game then =
Diablo will call them dupes.<br>> >> <br>> >So what your =
telling me is if I drop 2 potions of full mana one will get<br>> =
>destroyed???<br>> ><br>> I havent had =
that happen but I have heard it happen with other<br>> items from the =
same game (like the ears above). I'm not sure how it<br>> works. All =
my knowedge comes from debugging version 1.0..<br>> =
Maybe Diablo doesn't perform the dupe check on certain =
items like<br>> potions and gold? Ill experiment a little more with =
triggering dupe<br>> checks in the near future :)<br>> </p>
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Re: New patch, 'multiple' items deletion
Author: rco... Ronald Courtright
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 00:00
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Re: New patch, 'multiple' items deletion
Author: DrL... DrLoVeD
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 00:00
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On Thu, 27 Feb 1997 13:52:58 GMT, blood...@inter.net (bloodhound) wrote: Yet another useless patch for a broken program. Instead of worring about the "cheating" fix the damn game Blizzard. Put out more characters, more items...etc....mind your damn business or fix it right.
Re: New patch, 'multiple' items deletion
Author: Dan Hook
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 00:00
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DrLoVeD <DrL...@funkygetdown.net> wrote in article >Put out more > characters, more items...etc....mind your damn business or fix it > right. More characters and such are the type of thing that any software company that wants to stay in business would put in an expansion that people would pay money for. Patches are designed to give the consumer what they paid for. Expansions expand the game. Kilgar the Mage
Re: New patch, 'multiple' items deletion
Author: Zurt Vortex
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 00:00
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In article <3314f399...@news.alt.net>, bloodhound <blood...@inter.net> writes >On 26 Feb 1997 23:25:09 GMT, kir...@u.washington.edu (K. Laisathit) >wrote: > >>Now, I know all the joy that most anti-cheaters feel (myself >>included) when we hear of the new cheat prevention feature of the >>new patch. However, when I read into the release note, I'm not >>so sure if this patch is the best Blizzard could do. >> >>Don't get me wrong, I think the fact that Blizzard took the time >>to fix the cheat says a lot about its commitment to providing a >>good game. BTW, I don't feel that Blizzard is necessarily >>responsible for fixing the cheat. You can hardly fault car >>makers for making cars that some criminals use for their escapes. >> >>Anyway, back to the subject, my understanding of the dupe item >>is that this involve the use of the town portal trick. Now, I >>don't understand why Blizzard, given its intention to prevent >>cheating, can't fix the town portal trick. Why does it have to >>rely on this drop two identical objects and one of them is deleted? >>What happen to unique items? Countless mages are carrying Dreamflange, >>numerous rogues swear by their Eaglehorn or Windforce, all legiimately >>acquired of course. Hell, the program has been known to generate >>more than one unique items for a player who has already got the >>unique item. >> >>This reminds me of Bethesda's infamous fix of some of its bugs >>by disallowing some of the actions that are causing the problem. >>Luckily, Blizzard didn't choose to eliminate the use of town portal >>just to avoid the dupe trick. From now on, we'll have to ask >>around to see if anyone in our party has already dropped a similar >>item, for fear that our hard earned trophy might vanish because >>of this half-hearted attempt at preventing cheats. >> >>While I applaud Blizzard for its attention to players' experience, >>I cannot say the same thing with the way it handles the problem. >>How unfortunate. >> >>Later... > Welll... if diablo detects two items and deletes them they ARE >dupes. Diablo stores a multi-byte code with the item that serves a >couple purposes, one of which is to providea a unique code to each >item. If you find two uniques of the same name in the same level of >the same game, they will each be assigned different ID numbers. So, >the only way two items would have the same ID is if they were duped. > So if you find say .. an Obsidian Zodiac ring +20 all,+27% resist >all.. You can be fairly certain it will be safe if dropped in the >presense of a duped ring with the same stats. > > It ain't necessarily so! My mage had a book of elemental about his person purchased from the witch. On entering a game he bought another from the witch. One was destroyed as a dupe when they were put down! -- Zurt Vortex If the shit fits, wear it!
Re: New patch, 'multiple' items deletion
Author: Zurt Vortex
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 00:00
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 00:00
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In article <331a8a26...@news.zippo.com>, Ricarthious <gre...@hotmail.com> writes >Look! Look here! "James Carter" <Ja...@NOSPAM.NET> wrote this: > >>It does not do the dupe check for mana and health potions but it >>does do it for the elixers. Only put one down at a time or you will be >>throwing them away. I can see the need to stop some of the cheating >>but it is not right that two ppl can't have the same item if they got it >>legit. > >The innocent must always suffer for the crimes of all the arseholes in >this world. Unfortunately, you either live with this, or go insane. > I would find life without an Arsehole very very dull..... -- Zurt Vortex If the shit fits, wear it!
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