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On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 23:18:45 -0600, "Luc The Perverse"
<sll_noSpamli...@cc.usu.edu> wrote:

>Post the name, address and picture of everyone convicted of a sex crime to 
>make the public safe.  Yeah - 
>http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/breaking_news/14364668.htm
>
>So they got the names off the website with addresses and went and killed 
>them.  Well there's a big fucking surprise!
>
>I wish I had veto power for all stupid ideas in the universe.
>
>Well that's not going to happen so I'll just get a gun and start killing 
>people whose beliefs I don't agree with.   I've had instruction from good 
>people like President Bush, Bin Laden and Hitler that this is the only way 
>to get things done.
>
>Or maybe a bomb.  Oh oh oh!   Nerve gas!  Where did I leave the recipe for 
>VX?
>
>On the other hand - I'm not sure dead people get it any better than the 
>living.   If I completely run out of ideas, I can always wire all my money 
>to Pat Robinson.  I'm sure he'd appreciate my two cents in the matter.
>
>NSA/CIA/Klingon Intelligence/FBI etc. Disclaimer:  I don't really have a 
>recipe for VX.  That was meant for comical value.  The foregoing has been a 
>rant against sex offender registries.  All implications of violence or 
>retaliation are merely meant to be ironic - and will not be acted out. 
>However - I really do wish I had veto power for stupid ideas.

W00t! SJ Merc in da hizzy :D

*ahem*

Yeah, that seems kinda odd... there are quite a few sex offenders in
downtown san jose, and it doesn't really bother me. (just rape &
sex-with-minor offenders mostly...)
-- 
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"Zealot The Crazy Lui" <ktwils...@NOSPAM.comcast.net> wrote in message 
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> On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 23:18:45 -0600, "Luc The Perverse"
> <sll_noSpamli...@cc.usu.edu> wrote:
>
>>Post the name, address and picture of everyone convicted of a sex crime to
>>make the public safe.  Yeah -
>>http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/breaking_news/14364668.htm
>>
>>So they got the names off the website with addresses and went and killed
>>them.  Well there's a big fucking surprise!
>>
>>I wish I had veto power for all stupid ideas in the universe.
>>
>>Well that's not going to happen so I'll just get a gun and start killing
>>people whose beliefs I don't agree with.   I've had instruction from good
>>people like President Bush, Bin Laden and Hitler that this is the only way
>>to get things done.
>>
>>Or maybe a bomb.  Oh oh oh!   Nerve gas!  Where did I leave the recipe for
>>VX?
>>
>>On the other hand - I'm not sure dead people get it any better than the
>>living.   If I completely run out of ideas, I can always wire all my money
>>to Pat Robinson.  I'm sure he'd appreciate my two cents in the matter.
>>
>>NSA/CIA/Klingon Intelligence/FBI etc. Disclaimer:  I don't really have a
>>recipe for VX.  That was meant for comical value.  The foregoing has been 
>>a
>>rant against sex offender registries.  All implications of violence or
>>retaliation are merely meant to be ironic - and will not be acted out.
>>However - I really do wish I had veto power for stupid ideas.
>
> W00t! SJ Merc in da hizzy :D
>
> *ahem*
>
> Yeah, that seems kinda odd... there are quite a few sex offenders in
> downtown san jose, and it doesn't really bother me. (just rape &
> sex-with-minor offenders mostly...)

Well I didn't say everyone in Amerika was a vigilante.

I think it provides a negligible degree of "protection" while creating an 
unacceptable level of ostracism.

--
LTP

:) 

Luc The Perverse wrote:
> Post the name, address and picture of everyone convicted of a sex crime to 
> make the public safe.  Yeah - 
> http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/breaking_news/14364668.htm
> 
> So they got the names off the website with addresses and went and killed 
> them.  Well there's a big fucking surprise!
> 
> I wish I had veto power for all stupid ideas in the universe.
> 
> Well that's not going to happen so I'll just get a gun and start killing 
> people whose beliefs I don't agree with.   I've had instruction from good 
> people like President Bush, Bin Laden and Hitler that this is the only way 
> to get things done.

I'm dead :-(
--
Marsh Lion
on Luc's hitlist

"Marsh_lion" <marsh...@SPAMparadise.net.nz> wrote in message 
news:44456973$1@clear.net.nz...
>
> I'm dead :-(
> --
> Marsh Lion
> on Luc's hitlist

You were #1 . . . but . . . how did you know?

--
LAP

:) 

Luc The Perverse wrote:
> "Marsh_lion" <marsh...@SPAMparadise.net.nz> wrote in message 
> news:44456973$1@clear.net.nz...
> 
>>I'm dead :-(
>>--
>>Marsh Lion
>>on Luc's hitlist
> 
> You were #1 . . . but . . . how did you know?

"I'll just get a gun and start killing people whose beliefs I don't 
agree with" and given my views on Gay marrage, sex before marrage, 
numerous other Christian belief's... need I say any more :D.

I must say though that I do agree that you live in a state that has a 
number of shocking rules etc.
--
Marsh Lion
on Luc's hitlist

"Marsh_lion" <marsh...@SPAMparadise.net.nz> wrote in message 
news:44459214@clear.net.nz...
> Luc The Perverse wrote:
>> "Marsh_lion" <marsh...@SPAMparadise.net.nz> wrote in message 
>> news:44456973$1@clear.net.nz...
>>
>>>I'm dead :-(
>>>--
>>>Marsh Lion
>>>on Luc's hitlist
>>
>> You were #1 . . . but . . . how did you know?
>
> "I'll just get a gun and start killing people whose beliefs I don't agree 
> with" and given my views on Gay marrage, sex before marrage, numerous 
> other Christian belief's... need I say any more :D.
>
> I must say though that I do agree that you live in a state that has a 
> number of shocking rules etc.

Oh for god's sake!

You also have to be an asshole for me to hate you

--
LTP

:) 

"Luc The Perverse" <sll_noSpamli...@cc.usu.edu> wrote in message 
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> "Marsh_lion" <marsh...@SPAMparadise.net.nz> wrote in message 
> news:44459214@clear.net.nz...
>> Luc The Perverse wrote:
>>> "Marsh_lion" <marsh...@SPAMparadise.net.nz> wrote in message 
>>> news:44456973$1@clear.net.nz...
>>>
>>>>I'm dead :-(
>>>>--
>>>>Marsh Lion
>>>>on Luc's hitlist
>>>
>>> You were #1 . . . but . . . how did you know?
>>
>> "I'll just get a gun and start killing people whose beliefs I don't agree 
>> with" and given my views on Gay marrage, sex before marrage, numerous 
>> other Christian belief's... need I say any more :D.
>>
>> I must say though that I do agree that you live in a state that has a 
>> number of shocking rules etc.
>
> Oh for god's sake!
>
> You also have to be an asshole for me to hate you

That wouldn't be too hard, innit?

Ps. How is Skyla doing?
-- 
Steven Ung
The Ignorant Asian 

Luc The Perverse wrote:
> "Marsh_lion" <marsh...@SPAMparadise.net.nz> wrote in message 
> news:44459214@clear.net.nz...
> 
>>Luc The Perverse wrote:
>>
>>>"Marsh_lion" <marsh...@SPAMparadise.net.nz> wrote in message 
>>>news:44456973$1@clear.net.nz...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I'm dead :-(
>>>>--
>>>>Marsh Lion
>>>>on Luc's hitlist
>>>
>>>You were #1 . . . but . . . how did you know?
>>
>>"I'll just get a gun and start killing people whose beliefs I don't agree 
>>with" and given my views on Gay marrage, sex before marrage, numerous 
>>other Christian belief's... need I say any more :D.
>>
>>I must say though that I do agree that you live in a state that has a 
>>number of shocking rules etc.
> 
> 
> Oh for god's sake!
> 
> You also have to be an asshole for me to hate you
> 
Sorry - No can do :-p
--
Marsh Lion
Not hated by Luc, but on his Hitlist

"Marsh_lion" <marsh...@SPAMparadise.net.nz> wrote in message 
news:44456973$1@clear.net.nz...
> Luc The Perverse wrote:
>> Post the name, address and picture of everyone convicted of a sex crime 
>> to make the public safe.  Yeah - 
>> http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/breaking_news/14364668.htm
>>
>> So they got the names off the website with addresses and went and killed 
>> them.  Well there's a big fucking surprise!
>>
>> I wish I had veto power for all stupid ideas in the universe.
>>
>> Well that's not going to happen so I'll just get a gun and start killing 
>> people whose beliefs I don't agree with.   I've had instruction from good 
>> people like President Bush, Bin Laden and Hitler that this is the only 
>> way to get things done.
>
> I'm dead :-(
> --
> Marsh Lion
> on Luc's hitlist

Maybe some people in this newsgroup would like it when their daughters got 
raped by people who live 1 block away. 

Frans wrote:
> "Marsh_lion" <marsh...@SPAMparadise.net.nz> wrote in message 
> news:44456973$1@clear.net.nz...
> 
>>Luc The Perverse wrote:
>>
>>>Post the name, address and picture of everyone convicted of a sex crime 
>>>to make the public safe.  Yeah - 
>>>http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/breaking_news/14364668.htm
>>>
>>>So they got the names off the website with addresses and went and killed 
>>>them.  Well there's a big fucking surprise!
>>>
>>>I wish I had veto power for all stupid ideas in the universe.
>>>
>>>Well that's not going to happen so I'll just get a gun and start killing 
>>>people whose beliefs I don't agree with.   I've had instruction from good 
>>>people like President Bush, Bin Laden and Hitler that this is the only 
>>>way to get things done.
>>
>>I'm dead :-(
>>--
>>Marsh Lion
>>on Luc's hitlist
> 
> 
> Maybe some people in this newsgroup would like it when their daughters got 
> raped by people who live 1 block away. 
> 
You're making the assumption that they will re-offend. While it is true 
that some will re-offend, that is no reason to go and kill them.

I don't like President Bush, and generally think that americans have an 
attitude that they rule the world. Does that mean that there are no 
decent americans? Of course not!

FYI I live in New Zealand, a place that Bush didn't know where it was 
(had he even heard of us?) before he was elected.
--
Marsh Lion
On Luc's hitlist

"Frans" <phasys3...@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:124cp72qjclrrdb@corp.supernews.com...
> "Marsh_lion" <marsh...@SPAMparadise.net.nz> wrote in message 
> news:44456973$1@clear.net.nz...
>> Luc The Perverse wrote:
>>> Post the name, address and picture of everyone convicted of a sex crime 
>>> to make the public safe.  Yeah - 
>>> http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/breaking_news/14364668.htm
>>>
>>> So they got the names off the website with addresses and went and killed 
>>> them.  Well there's a big fucking surprise!
>>>
>>> I wish I had veto power for all stupid ideas in the universe.
>>>
>>> Well that's not going to happen so I'll just get a gun and start killing 
>>> people whose beliefs I don't agree with.   I've had instruction from 
>>> good people like President Bush, Bin Laden and Hitler that this is the 
>>> only way to get things done.
>>
>> I'm dead :-(
>> --
>> Marsh Lion
>> on Luc's hitlist
>
> Maybe some people in this newsgroup would like it when their daughters got 
> raped by people who live 1 block away.

Well go get your gun and kill them then.

That's your way

My way:

I believe in forgiveness.   (You're probably a Christian so you disagree.) 
I believe in freedom from cruel and unusual punishment.  (You're probably an 
American so you disagree.)   I believe in a right to privacy - but you're 
probably a Republican so you disagree.

And since being in a sex offender registry gives you an impermeable firewall 
against attacks, just hope that said criminal did something sexual, and 
didn't just kill for the fun of it, or he won't be listed.

Do you really think people that molested their niece one time are the same 
people who randomly select victims and kill them?

That's the problem with you people.   You throw everything in the same bag 
together.   I hardly consider a man who had consensual sex with a 17 year 
old to be a giant threat to society, but he will be put on the page the same 
as someone who goes around fucking 18 month old girls to death.

Even if someone is dangerous, and listed on the page of what use is it to 
potential victims?  Let's say person A succeeds in protecting him/herself 
and or his/her child - the predator will simply choose another victim. 
That's great for person A - but I'd have to say from a legal perspective 
that the negative effects of being listed on a sex offender registry far 
outweigh any benefits, particularly if it just means someone else is getting 
victimized (that's zero percent improvement statistically).   We could push 
it to the extreme - let's say everyone with internet can access these pages, 
and protect themselves 100% - that puts people without internet connections 
at risk - hardly equality.

You see, you can't have equality when people are being singled out. 
Criminals can't recover if they are expected to always be a criminal.   It's 
a scarlet letter - that's all.

--
LTP

:) 

"Marsh_lion" <marsh...@SPAMparadise.net.nz> wrote in message 
news:4446c69d$1@clear.net.nz...
> You're making the assumption that they will re-offend. While it is true 
> that some will re-offend, that is no reason to go and kill them.
>
> I don't like President Bush, and generally think that americans have an 
> attitude that they rule the world. Does that mean that there are no decent 
> americans? Of course not!

I don't think I rule the world!   I'm one of those decent americans!

> FYI I live in New Zealand, a place that Bush didn't know where it was (had 
> he even heard of us?) before he was elected.

Bush knows that New Zealand is a province of Australia, which is an Island 
of the African continent.   DUH!

--
LTP

:)

"Steven Ung" <ste...@nodomainname.com> wrote in message 
news:obtgh3x2gb.ln2@loki.cmears.id.au...
>> Oh for god's sake!
>>
>> You also have to be an asshole for me to hate you
>
> That wouldn't be too hard, innit?

Dunno never tried it.

> Ps. How is Skyla doing?

She is getting picky with food.   She only wants fatty foods and sweets.

So she gets an empty little tummy until she starts her meal with vegetables.

--
LTP

:) 

Luc The Perverse wrote:
> "Frans" <phasys3...@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
> news:124cp72qjclrrdb@corp.supernews.com...
> 
>>"Marsh_lion" <marsh...@SPAMparadise.net.nz> wrote in message 
>>news:44456973$1@clear.net.nz...
>>
>>>Luc The Perverse wrote:
>>>
>>>>Post the name, address and picture of everyone convicted of a sex crime 
>>>>to make the public safe.  Yeah - 
>>>>http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/breaking_news/14364668.htm
>>>>
>>>>So they got the names off the website with addresses and went and killed 
>>>>them.  Well there's a big fucking surprise!
>>>>
>>>>I wish I had veto power for all stupid ideas in the universe.
>>>>
>>>>Well that's not going to happen so I'll just get a gun and start killing 
>>>>people whose beliefs I don't agree with.   I've had instruction from 
>>>>good people like President Bush, Bin Laden and Hitler that this is the 
>>>>only way to get things done.
>>>
>>>I'm dead :-(
>>>--
>>>Marsh Lion
>>>on Luc's hitlist
>>
>>Maybe some people in this newsgroup would like it when their daughters got 
>>raped by people who live 1 block away.
> 
> 
> Well go get your gun and kill them then.
> 
> That's your way
> 
> My way:
> 
> I believe in forgiveness.   (You're probably a Christian so you disagree.) 
I wouldn't class you as Christian if you didn't believe in forgiveness 
(afterall ALL christians (baring Jesus - can you call him a Christian?) 
have sinned, it's only through God's forgiveness that we have a chance 
to get into heaven).

<Snip rest, because either I agree with it, or can't comment otherwise>
--
Marsh Lion
Kiwi, Christian and on Luc's Hitlist

Luc The Perverse wrote:

> However - I really do wish I had veto power for stupid ideas.

We had a similar case here. Someone decided to publish a book with all 
known paedophiles with their names contact numbers and home addresses in 
it.

This book was then used by the offenders themselves to contact each 
other and coordinate their attacks.

Known child fuckers have gone on record saying that they viewed the book 
as their bible.

Luc The Perverse wrote:
> "Steven Ung" <ste...@nodomainname.com> wrote in message 
> news:obtgh3x2gb.ln2@loki.cmears.id.au...
>>> Oh for god's sake!
>>>
>>> You also have to be an asshole for me to hate you
>> That wouldn't be too hard, innit?
> 
> Dunno never tried it.


No, no, no! The correct response is "Fuck you."
Gees, we've got a lot of work to do here.

"Marsh_lion" <marsh...@SPAMparadise.net.nz> wrote in message 
news:4446dd4b$1@clear.net.nz...
> Luc The Perverse wrote:
>> "Frans" <phasys3...@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
>> news:124cp72qjclrrdb@corp.supernews.com...
>>
>>>"Marsh_lion" <marsh...@SPAMparadise.net.nz> wrote in message 
>>>news:44456973$1@clear.net.nz...
>>>
>>>>Luc The Perverse wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Post the name, address and picture of everyone convicted of a sex crime 
>>>>>to make the public safe.  Yeah - 
>>>>>http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/breaking_news/14364668.htm
>>>>>
>>>>>So they got the names off the website with addresses and went and 
>>>>>killed them.  Well there's a big fucking surprise!
>>>>>
>>>>>I wish I had veto power for all stupid ideas in the universe.
>>>>>
>>>>>Well that's not going to happen so I'll just get a gun and start 
>>>>>killing people whose beliefs I don't agree with.   I've had instruction 
>>>>>from good people like President Bush, Bin Laden and Hitler that this is 
>>>>>the only way to get things done.
>>>>
>>>>I'm dead :-(
>>>>--
>>>>Marsh Lion
>>>>on Luc's hitlist
>>>
>>>Maybe some people in this newsgroup would like it when their daughters 
>>>got raped by people who live 1 block away.
>>
>>
>> Well go get your gun and kill them then.
>>
>> That's your way
>>
>> My way:
>>
>> I believe in forgiveness.   (You're probably a Christian so you 
>> disagree.)
> I wouldn't class you as Christian if you didn't believe in forgiveness 
> (afterall ALL christians (baring Jesus - can you call him a Christian?) 
> have sinned, it's only through God's forgiveness that we have a chance to 
> get into heaven).

I was making ironic statements based on the behavior of Rightist 
Conservative Republican Americans of how they act vs what they consider to 
be ideal.

--
LTP

:) 

"Spyderizer" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message 
news:4446ed00$1@news.orcon.net.nz...
> Luc The Perverse wrote:
>
>> However - I really do wish I had veto power for stupid ideas.
>
> We had a similar case here. Someone decided to publish a book with all 
> known paedophiles with their names contact numbers and home addresses in 
> it.
>
> This book was then used by the offenders themselves to contact each other 
> and coordinate their attacks.
>
> Known child fuckers have gone on record saying that they viewed the book 
> as their bible.

OMG I never even thought of that.  ROFL that is fucking hilarious!

It's like when they take all the drug dealers and stick them in Anti drug 
education classes in prison and they just use it to network

--
LTP

:) 

"Spyderizer" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message 
news:4446eda6$1@news.orcon.net.nz...
> Luc The Perverse wrote:
>> "Steven Ung" <ste...@nodomainname.com> wrote in message 
>> news:obtgh3x2gb.ln2@loki.cmears.id.au...
>>>> Oh for god's sake!
>>>>
>>>> You also have to be an asshole for me to hate you
>>> That wouldn't be too hard, innit?
>>
>> Dunno never tried it.
>
>
> No, no, no! The correct response is "Fuck you."
> Gees, we've got a lot of work to do here.

That seems kinda rude though mmkay

Oh wait it's against stephen who was blatantly insulting me.

Let me practice - FUCK YOU!

--
LTP

:) 

Luc The Perverse wrote:
>>FYI I live in New Zealand, a place that Bush didn't know where it was (had 
>>he even heard of us?) before he was elected.
> 
> 
> Bush knows that New Zealand is a province of Australia, which is an Island 
> of the African continent.   DUH!

You know much better than that.
--
Marsh Lion
an exception to Luc's hitlist

Luc The Perverse wrote:
> "Spyderizer" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message 
> news:4446ed00$1@news.orcon.net.nz...
> 
>>Luc The Perverse wrote:
>>
>>
>>>However - I really do wish I had veto power for stupid ideas.
>>
>>We had a similar case here. Someone decided to publish a book with all 
>>known paedophiles with their names contact numbers and home addresses in 
>>it.
>>
>>This book was then used by the offenders themselves to contact each other 
>>and coordinate their attacks.
>>
>>Known child fuckers have gone on record saying that they viewed the book 
>>as their bible.
> 
> 
> OMG I never even thought of that.  ROFL that is fucking hilarious!
> 
> It's like when they take all the drug dealers and stick them in Anti drug 
> education classes in prison and they just use it to network
> 
It really shows how much smarter New Zealanders can be than americans.
--
Marsh Lion
An exception to Luc's hitlist

Luc The Perverse wrote:
> "Spyderizer" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message 
> news:4446eda6$1@news.orcon.net.nz...
>> Luc The Perverse wrote:
>>> "Steven Ung" <ste...@nodomainname.com> wrote in message 
>>> news:obtgh3x2gb.ln2@loki.cmears.id.au...
>>>>> Oh for god's sake!
>>>>>
>>>>> You also have to be an asshole for me to hate you
>>>> That wouldn't be too hard, innit?
>>> Dunno never tried it.
>>
>> No, no, no! The correct response is "Fuck you."
>> Gees, we've got a lot of work to do here.
> 
> That seems kinda rude though mmkay
> 
> Oh wait it's against stephen who was blatantly insulting me.
> 
> Let me practice - FUCK YOU!

That's excellent! A good simple "Fuck you" is an excellent multipurpose 
phrase which you can use in everyday life in almost any situation with 
anyone you don't like.

In a minute Steven's going to show you tips on taking up the maximum 
number of parks with your SUV.

Later, check out Jerk-o's ultimate technique for getting 22 items OR 
MORE through the express checkout and getting them to take a cheque!

We'll be right back with more Asshole Eye for the Nice Guy.

"Marsh_lion" <marsh...@SPAMparadise.net.nz> wrote in message 
news:44470538$1@clear.net.nz...
> Luc The Perverse wrote:
>> "Spyderizer" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message 
>> news:4446ed00$1@news.orcon.net.nz...
>>
>>>Luc The Perverse wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>However - I really do wish I had veto power for stupid ideas.
>>>
>>>We had a similar case here. Someone decided to publish a book with all 
>>>known paedophiles with their names contact numbers and home addresses in 
>>>it.
>>>
>>>This book was then used by the offenders themselves to contact each other 
>>>and coordinate their attacks.
>>>
>>>Known child fuckers have gone on record saying that they viewed the book 
>>>as their bible.
>>
>>
>> OMG I never even thought of that.  ROFL that is fucking hilarious!
>>
>> It's like when they take all the drug dealers and stick them in Anti drug 
>> education classes in prison and they just use it to network
>>
> It really shows how much smarter New Zealanders can be than americans.

They hang the drug dealers if they are convicted of drug trafficking?
-- 
Steven Ung
The Ignorant Asian 

"Spyderizer" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message 
news:44471fde@news.orcon.net.nz...
> Luc The Perverse wrote:
>> "Spyderizer" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message 
>> news:4446eda6$1@news.orcon.net.nz...
>>> Luc The Perverse wrote:
>>>> "Steven Ung" <ste...@nodomainname.com> wrote in message 
>>>> news:obtgh3x2gb.ln2@loki.cmears.id.au...
>>>>>> Oh for god's sake!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You also have to be an asshole for me to hate you
>>>>> That wouldn't be too hard, innit?
>>>> Dunno never tried it.
>>>
>>> No, no, no! The correct response is "Fuck you."
>>> Gees, we've got a lot of work to do here.
>>
>> That seems kinda rude though mmkay
>>
>> Oh wait it's against stephen who was blatantly insulting me.
>>
>> Let me practice - FUCK YOU!
>
> That's excellent! A good simple "Fuck you" is an excellent multipurpose 
> phrase which you can use in everyday life in almost any situation with 
> anyone you don't like.
>
> In a minute Steven's going to show you tips on taking up the maximum 
> number of parks with your SUV.

Hey! "FUCK YOU"!

> Later, check out Jerk-o's ultimate technique for getting 22 items OR MORE 
> through the express checkout and getting them to take a cheque!
>
> We'll be right back with more Asshole Eye for the Nice Guy.

LOL
-- 
Steven Ung
The Ignorant Asian 

Spyderizer <n...@spam.com> wrote
>Luc The Perverse wrote:
>> "Spyderizer" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message 
>> news:4446eda6$1@news.orcon.net.nz...
>>> Luc The Perverse wrote:
>>>> "Steven Ung" <ste...@nodomainname.com> wrote in message 
>>>> news:obtgh3x2gb.ln2@loki.cmears.id.au...
>>>>>> Oh for god's sake!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You also have to be an asshole for me to hate you
>>>>> That wouldn't be too hard, innit?
>>>> Dunno never tried it.
>>>
>>> No, no, no! The correct response is "Fuck you."
>>> Gees, we've got a lot of work to do here.
>> 
>> That seems kinda rude though mmkay
>> 
>> Oh wait it's against stephen who was blatantly insulting me.
>> 
>> Let me practice - FUCK YOU!
>
>That's excellent! A good simple "Fuck you" is an excellent multipurpose 
>phrase which you can use in everyday life in almost any situation with 
>anyone you don't like.
>
>In a minute Steven's going to show you tips on taking up the maximum 
>number of parks with your SUV.
>
>Later, check out Jerk-o's ultimate technique for getting 22 items OR 
>MORE through the express checkout and getting them to take a cheque!

Fuck off, that's my secret
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"Marsh_lion" <marsh...@SPAMparadise.net.nz> wrote in message 
news:4446c69d$1@clear.net.nz...
> Frans wrote:
>> "Marsh_lion" <marsh...@SPAMparadise.net.nz> wrote in message 
>> news:44456973$1@clear.net.nz...
>>
>>>Luc The Perverse wrote:
>>>
>>>>Post the name, address and picture of everyone convicted of a sex crime 
>>>>to make the public safe.  Yeah - 
>>>>http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/breaking_news/14364668.htm
>>>>
>>>>So they got the names off the website with addresses and went and killed 
>>>>them.  Well there's a big fucking surprise!
>>>>
>>>>I wish I had veto power for all stupid ideas in the universe.
>>>>
>>>>Well that's not going to happen so I'll just get a gun and start killing 
>>>>people whose beliefs I don't agree with.   I've had instruction from 
>>>>good people like President Bush, Bin Laden and Hitler that this is the 
>>>>only way to get things done.
>>>
>>>I'm dead :-(
>>>--
>>>Marsh Lion
>>>on Luc's hitlist
>>
>>
>> Maybe some people in this newsgroup would like it when their daughters 
>> got raped by people who live 1 block away.
> You're making the assumption that they will re-offend. While it is true 
> that some will re-offend, that is no reason to go and kill them.

Yes, I am making that assumption, because it happens all the time. A very
large percentage of offenders have done similar crimes in the past. You 
can't
"cure" those people. They have a defect in the melon and the only thing that
will help is either lock them away for good or chemically castrate them. 
Since
neither is an option they get put back in society, with all the dangers that 
come
with it.

Suppose I had children, I think I would like to know if the one guy living 
down the
street was a child rapist or not. As a parent, I think I'd have a right to 
know. Just
like that I have a right to know if that big building across the street is 
an office
or a police station.

And no, it's no reason to kill them, but the killer is crazy, and crazy 
people do crazy
things. If it wasn't this, they would have gone and done something else. But 
the fact
that a few child molesters got killed by some crazy individual, does not 
mean that you
should NOT protect the VICTIMS of child molesters.

> I don't like President Bush, and generally think that americans have an 
> attitude that they rule the world. Does that mean that there are no decent 
> americans? Of course not!

> FYI I live in New Zealand, a place that Bush didn't know where it was (had 
> he even heard of us?) before he was elected.

I live in Holland, and this whole Bush bashing doesn't have anything to do 
with the
subject at hand. 

"Luc The Perverse" <sll_noSpamli...@cc.usu.edu> wrote in message 
news:ddvih3xvls.ln2@loki.cmears.id.au...
> "Frans" <phasys3...@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
> news:124cp72qjclrrdb@corp.supernews.com...
>> "Marsh_lion" <marsh...@SPAMparadise.net.nz> wrote in message 
>> news:44456973$1@clear.net.nz...
>>> Luc The Perverse wrote:
>>>> Post the name, address and picture of everyone convicted of a sex crime 
>>>> to make the public safe.  Yeah - 
>>>> http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/breaking_news/14364668.htm
>>>>
>>>> So they got the names off the website with addresses and went and 
>>>> killed them.  Well there's a big fucking surprise!
>>>>
>>>> I wish I had veto power for all stupid ideas in the universe.
>>>>
>>>> Well that's not going to happen so I'll just get a gun and start 
>>>> killing people whose beliefs I don't agree with.   I've had instruction 
>>>> from good people like President Bush, Bin Laden and Hitler that this is 
>>>> the only way to get things done.
>>>
>>> I'm dead :-(
>>> --
>>> Marsh Lion
>>> on Luc's hitlist
>>
>> Maybe some people in this newsgroup would like it when their daughters 
>> got raped by people who live 1 block away.
>
> Well go get your gun and kill them then.
>
> That's your way

Cool. Can you show me where I said that? Wow, I almost flamed you.
Must be some reminiscient thing from the past when Cyric was still in this
newsgroup.

Furthermore, I'm not gonna repeat all I said in my previous post.

> You see, you can't have equality when people are being singled out. 
> Criminals can't recover if they are expected to always be a criminal. 
> It's a scarlet letter - that's all.

So the innocent victims (in this case children) should always suffer because
you want the criminal to get "better". Right, now I understand it. 

On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 10:03:50 +0200, "Frans"
<phasys3...@yahoo.com> wrote:
*snip a load of bull shite*
>And no, it's no reason to kill them, but the killer is crazy, and crazy 
>people do crazy
>things. If it wasn't this, they would have gone and done something else. But 
>the fact
>that a few child molesters got killed by some crazy individual, does not 
>mean that you
>should NOT protect the VICTIMS of child molesters.

Strange. You have a lot to say for someone who obviously knows very
little on the subject.

>I live in Holland, and this whole Bush bashing doesn't have anything to do 
>with the
>subject at hand. 

Strange, I thought the Dutch were more intelligent...

*plonk*
-- 
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"Eat a bag of hell." - Cyric The Mad
"Yes - I need red hot gay loving" - LTP

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"Zealot The Crazy Lui" <ktwils...@NOSPAM.comcast.net> wrote in message 
news:bthf429pr1qenqusgj5c70lppqm1l2cjep@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 10:03:50 +0200, "Frans"
> <phasys3...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> *snip a load of bull shite*
>>And no, it's no reason to kill them, but the killer is crazy, and crazy
>>people do crazy
>>things. If it wasn't this, they would have gone and done something else. 
>>But
>>the fact
>>that a few child molesters got killed by some crazy individual, does not
>>mean that you
>>should NOT protect the VICTIMS of child molesters.
>
> Strange. You have a lot to say for someone who obviously knows very
> little on the subject.
>
>>I live in Holland, and this whole Bush bashing doesn't have anything to do
>>with the
>>subject at hand.
>
> Strange, I thought the Dutch were more intelligent...
>
> *plonk*

Oh my god, you're not liberal. Therefore I shall killfile you. Pathetic ass. 

"Frans" <phasys3...@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:124eg36gig4vbf6@corp.supernews.com...
> And no, it's no reason to kill them, but the killer is crazy, and crazy 
> people do crazy
> things. If it wasn't this, they would have gone and done something else. 
> But the fact
> that a few child molesters got killed by some crazy individual, does not 
> mean that you
> should NOT protect the VICTIMS of child molesters.

I agree.  Children should be protected from people would take advantage of 
them or hurt them.  Like drug dealers, murderers, insane people, witches and 
trolls, gang members and schoolyard bullies.  None of these people appear in 
public registries.

I have a few assumptions which you do not appear to agree with.
1. Sex registries do no protect victims.  At best they shift victims from 
the more paranoid to the less paranoid.
2. Sexual offenses are not unique crimes.   If you are going to have 
criminal registries then list everyone and everything, or maybe limit it to 
Felonies - but don't choose one crime and make a registry for it.
3. Not all sex crimes are the same.   A man who flashes strippers at a club 
is not sufficiently predisposed to child molestation to justify posting a 
page about him.
4. Cyric is cool.

--
LTP

:)

"Frans" <phasys3...@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:124fi9s1qq1vd66@corp.supernews.com...
> "Zealot The Crazy Lui" <ktwils...@NOSPAM.comcast.net> wrote in message 
> news:bthf429pr1qenqusgj5c70lppqm1l2cjep@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 10:03:50 +0200, "Frans"
>> <phasys3...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> *snip a load of bull shite*
>>>And no, it's no reason to kill them, but the killer is crazy, and crazy
>>>people do crazy
>>>things. If it wasn't this, they would have gone and done something else. 
>>>But
>>>the fact
>>>that a few child molesters got killed by some crazy individual, does not
>>>mean that you
>>>should NOT protect the VICTIMS of child molesters.
>>
>> Strange. You have a lot to say for someone who obviously knows very
>> little on the subject.
>>
>>>I live in Holland, and this whole Bush bashing doesn't have anything to 
>>>do
>>>with the
>>>subject at hand.
>>
>> Strange, I thought the Dutch were more intelligent...
>>
>> *plonk*
>
> Oh my god, you're not liberal. Therefore I shall killfile you. Pathetic 
> ass.

Actually I don't know why he plonked you.

I did think Dutch people were cooler about stuff than this though.   Are you 
like super religious or something?

--
LTP

:) 

"Frans" <phasys3...@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:124eg82citkfqf7@corp.supernews.com...
> So the innocent victims (in this case children) should always suffer 
> because
> you want the criminal to get "better". Right, now I understand it.

Wow you're really annoying in a cool kinda way :)

--
LTP

:) 

"Marsh_lion" <marsh...@SPAMparadise.net.nz> wrote in message 
news:444702cf$1@clear.net.nz...
> Luc The Perverse wrote:
>>>FYI I live in New Zealand, a place that Bush didn't know where it was 
>>>(had he even heard of us?) before he was elected.
>>
>>
>> Bush knows that New Zealand is a province of Australia, which is an 
>> Island of the African continent.   DUH!
>
> You know much better than that.

Sorry Kiwi

--
LTP

:) 

On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:44:29 -0600, "Luc The Perverse"
<sll_noSpamli...@cc.usu.edu> wrote:
>Wow you're really annoying in a cool kinda way :)

That doesn't really make sense?
-- 
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"Eat a bag of hell." - Cyric The Mad
"Yes - I need red hot gay loving" - LTP

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http://pronounarmy.homestead.com/ http://thirty-five-mil.blogspot.com/
re-vamped sig 7D6h.4h.5h

On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:42:19 -0600, "Luc The Perverse"
<sll_noSpamli...@cc.usu.edu> wrote:
>Actually I don't know why he plonked you.

I didn't like his name.
-- 
"No I'm saying that I'm a cow dung." - Stephen "Suupernuubie" Ung
"Eat a bag of hell." - Cyric The Mad
"Yes - I need red hot gay loving" - LTP

MSN:ktw...@hotmail.com (BUT DON'T SEND E-MAIL!) YIM: ktwilson AIM: YahooKyleW
Zealot the Crazy Lui
Grand 16-Star General and overall director of AGSC operations for the Pronoun Army(and webmaster)
http://pronounarmy.homestead.com/ http://thirty-five-mil.blogspot.com/
re-vamped sig 7D6h.4h.5h

"Zealot The Crazy Lui" <ktwils...@NOSPAM.comcast.net> wrote in message 
news:bthf429pr1qenqusgj5c70lppqm1l2cjep@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 10:03:50 +0200, "Frans"
> <phasys3...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> *snip a load of bull shite*
>>And no, it's no reason to kill them, but the killer is crazy, and crazy
>>people do crazy
>>things. If it wasn't this, they would have gone and done something else. 
>>But
>>the fact
>>that a few child molesters got killed by some crazy individual, does not
>>mean that you
>>should NOT protect the VICTIMS of child molesters.
>
> Strange. You have a lot to say for someone who obviously knows very
> little on the subject.

Are you sure about that? She (?) seems to be speaking from the view of a 
parent as opposed to you being a grown up guy.

>>I live in Holland, and this whole Bush bashing doesn't have anything to do
>>with the
>>subject at hand.
>
> Strange, I thought the Dutch were more intelligent...
>
> *plonk*

Wow! All of a sudden, I feel super intelligent! :-)
-- 
Steven Ung
The Ignorant Asian 

"Luc The Perverse" <sll_noSpamli...@cc.usu.edu> wrote in message 
news:tp4lh3x9se.ln2@loki.cmears.id.au...
> "Frans" <phasys3...@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
> news:124fi9s1qq1vd66@corp.supernews.com...
>> "Zealot The Crazy Lui" <ktwils...@NOSPAM.comcast.net> wrote in message 
>> news:bthf429pr1qenqusgj5c70lppqm1l2cjep@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 10:03:50 +0200, "Frans"
>>> <phasys3...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> *snip a load of bull shite*
>>>>And no, it's no reason to kill them, but the killer is crazy, and crazy
>>>>people do crazy
>>>>things. If it wasn't this, they would have gone and done something else. 
>>>>But
>>>>the fact
>>>>that a few child molesters got killed by some crazy individual, does not
>>>>mean that you
>>>>should NOT protect the VICTIMS of child molesters.
>>>
>>> Strange. You have a lot to say for someone who obviously knows very
>>> little on the subject.
>>>
>>>>I live in Holland, and this whole Bush bashing doesn't have anything to 
>>>>do
>>>>with the
>>>>subject at hand.
>>>
>>> Strange, I thought the Dutch were more intelligent...
>>>
>>> *plonk*
>>
>> Oh my god, you're not liberal. Therefore I shall killfile you. Pathetic 
>> ass.
>
> Actually I don't know why he plonked you.

Me too

> I did think Dutch people were cooler about stuff than this though.   Are 
> you like super religious or something?

They are definitely more cooler about these stuff than asians. In asia, if 
there are 'rumors' (not convicted) about you being a child molestor you will 
be 'labeled' and kept under guard, 24/7!
-- 
Steven Ung
The Ignorant Asian 

"Zealot The Crazy Lui" <ktwils...@NOSPAM.comcast.net> wrote in message 
news:126g421l0gd0psifbrhbe5b7i4h1sssq0g@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:42:19 -0600, "Luc The Perverse"
> <sll_noSpamli...@cc.usu.edu> wrote:
>>Actually I don't know why he plonked you.
>
> I didn't like his name.


Eh? *his*?

Sorry, I thought Frans is for a uhmn...
-- 
Steven Ung
The Ignorant Asian 

"Luc The Perverse" <sll_noSpamli...@cc.usu.edu> wrote in message 
news:cn4lh3xqre.ln2@loki.cmears.id.au...
> "Frans" <phasys3...@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
> news:124eg36gig4vbf6@corp.supernews.com...
>> And no, it's no reason to kill them, but the killer is crazy, and crazy 
>> people do crazy
>> things. If it wasn't this, they would have gone and done something else. 
>> But the fact
>> that a few child molesters got killed by some crazy individual, does not 
>> mean that you
>> should NOT protect the VICTIMS of child molesters.
>
> I agree.  Children should be protected from people would take advantage of 
> them or hurt them.  Like drug dealers, murderers, insane people, witches 
> and trolls, gang members and schoolyard bullies.  None of these people 
> appear in public registries.
>
> I have a few assumptions which you do not appear to agree with.
> 1. Sex registries do no protect victims.  At best they shift victims from 
> the more paranoid to the less paranoid.
> 2. Sexual offenses are not unique crimes.   If you are going to have 
> criminal registries then list everyone and everything, or maybe limit it 
> to Felonies - but don't choose one crime and make a registry for it.
> 3. Not all sex crimes are the same.   A man who flashes strippers at a 
> club is not sufficiently predisposed to child molestation to justify 
> posting a page about him.
> 4. Cyric is cool.


I disagree to all (why I am not sure) except number 4. That bastard has 
apparently ditch us again.
-- 
Steven Ung
The Ignorant Asian 

"Luc The Perverse" <sll_noSpamli...@cc.usu.edu> wrote in message 
news:0u4lh3x1te.ln2@loki.cmears.id.au...
> "Frans" <phasys3...@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
> news:124eg82citkfqf7@corp.supernews.com...
>> So the innocent victims (in this case children) should always suffer 
>> because
>> you want the criminal to get "better". Right, now I understand it.
>
> Wow you're really annoying in a cool kinda way :)

Actually, frankly speaking I kind of agree with Frans. I wouldn't want to be 
living next door with a convicted (or non convicted) sex offenders. Sorry, 
but this is how we Asians are. We are kind of narrow minded on these kind of 
things.
-- 
Steven Ung
The Ignorant Asian 

Frans wrote:
> "Marsh_lion" <marsh...@SPAMparadise.net.nz> wrote in message 
> news:4446c69d$1@clear.net.nz...
> 
>>Frans wrote:

>>>Maybe some people in this newsgroup would like it when their daughters 
>>>got raped by people who live 1 block away.
>>
>>You're making the assumption that they will re-offend. While it is true 
>>that some will re-offend, that is no reason to go and kill them.
> 
> 
> Yes, I am making that assumption, because it happens all the time. A very
> large percentage of offenders have done similar crimes in the past. You 
> can't
> "cure" those people. They have a defect in the melon and the only thing that
> will help is either lock them away for good or chemically castrate them. 
> Since
> neither is an option they get put back in society, with all the dangers that 
> come
> with it.
> 
That is certainly your attitude. Can you "cure" these sorts of people? I 
certainly believe so. Granted Jail is not the best means to cure them. 
Let me mention being Gay as an example (I'm not willing to argue weither 
it is right or wrong, I believe that being Gay is a similar situation to 
being a sexual offender (except one being legal, and the other not)). A 
prominant Christian is Sy Rogers who WAS gay, and now is no longer (in 
fact he preaches from his own experience on why being gay is wrong (in a 
Christain sense)).

> Suppose I had children, I think I would like to know if the one guy living 
> down the
> street was a child rapist or not. As a parent, I think I'd have a right to 
> know. Just
> like that I have a right to know if that big building across the street is 
> an office
> or a police station.
> 
Quite right. Lets assume for a second that you were convicted of having 
consensual sex with a minor when you were 20. You would be on that 
register, What about your right to privacy? What about someone who has 
been cured (again I say you can be cured)?

> And no, it's no reason to kill them, but the killer is crazy, and crazy 
> people do crazy
> things. If it wasn't this, they would have gone and done something else. But 
> the fact
> that a few child molesters got killed by some crazy individual, does not 
> mean that you
> should NOT protect the VICTIMS of child molesters.
> 
I suggest you read Spyda's post (regarding some smart New Zealand Sexual 
Offenders) and tell me, by making publically available addresses etc of 
Sexual offenders, that it prevents more attacks. The victims have 
already had the damage done (so probably don't need protection). The 
released offenders (should they be released is another arguement) have 
to live somewhere, why rob them of a chance to live a normal life (If 
people don't have a "normal" life, it is more likely that they will 
offend in some form or other (not nessercerally a sexual offense)).
> 
>>I don't like President Bush, and generally think that americans have an 
>>attitude that they rule the world. Does that mean that there are no decent 
>>americans? Of course not!
> 
> 
>>FYI I live in New Zealand, a place that Bush didn't know where it was (had 
>>he even heard of us?) before he was elected.
> 
> 
> I live in Holland, and this whole Bush bashing doesn't have anything to do 
> with the
> subject at hand. 
> 
What I ment by that statment is that, while I think most american's have 
the attitude that they rule the world, I still have to judge each 
american individually (Luc is an example of this). In the same sense I 
believe that you still have to judge each offender individually.
--
Marsh Lion
An exception to Luc's Hitlist

Steven Ung wrote:
> 
> Actually, frankly speaking I kind of agree with Frans. I wouldn't want to be 
> living next door with a convicted (or non convicted) sex offenders. Sorry, 
> but this is how we Asians are. We are kind of narrow minded on these kind of 
> things.

Your right, but it is that "not in my backyard" attitude. They've got to 
live somewhere, and having done their time (according to the laws of the 
country atleast), they should have the chance to lead a normal life 
(whether they do or not, is their desision). Registers, and the nature 
of people towards sexual offenders, have a habit of stoping this.
--
Marsh Lion
New Zealander

"Marsh_lion" <marsh...@SPAMparadise.net.nz> wrote in message 
news:444828ca$1@clear.net.nz...
> Steven Ung wrote:
>>
>> Actually, frankly speaking I kind of agree with Frans. I wouldn't want to 
>> be living next door with a convicted (or non convicted) sex offenders. 
>> Sorry, but this is how we Asians are. We are kind of narrow minded on 
>> these kind of things.
>
> Your right, but it is that "not in my backyard" attitude. They've got to 
> live somewhere, and having done their time (according to the laws of the 
> country atleast), they should have the chance to lead a normal life 
> (whether they do or not, is their desision). Registers, and the nature of 
> people towards sexual offenders, have a habit of stoping this.

I am not sure about your neighbourhood but in our community if your neighbor 
knows that you are a (convicted) sex offenders, the entire neighborhood will 
know. Your every move will be 'surveilanced' and your every move will be 
'judged' that you are trying to commit the same offence.

I'm sure you can't live like this and will move out (which IMO will be 
better for both party) ;)
-- 
Steven Ung
The Ignorant Asian 

"Zealot The Crazy Lui" <ktwils...@NOSPAM.comcast.net> wrote in message 
news:h06g425t82bkod7bj07f6j5b3daoh3gt4p@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:44:29 -0600, "Luc The Perverse"
> <sll_noSpamli...@cc.usu.edu> wrote:
>>Wow you're really annoying in a cool kinda way :)
>
> That doesn't really make sense?

::Impersonation of Chris Farley.

No . . .  No it doesn't.   But you can imagine what it would be like if it 
did!  eh?

::End impersonation

--
LTP

:) 

"Steven Ung" <ste...@nodomainname.com> wrote in message 
news:9vilh3xm9i.ln2@loki.cmears.id.au...
> They are definitely more cooler about these stuff than asians. In asia, if 
> there are 'rumors' (not convicted) about you being a child molestor you 
> will be 'labeled' and kept under guard, 24/7!

You guys and your crazy Syariah Courts.  I mean seriously - you should 
consider fleeing the country.  Just tell your wife that there is Salmon in 
Amerika.

--
LTP

:) 

"Steven Ung" <ste...@nodomainname.com> wrote in message 
news:78jlh3xobi.ln2@loki.cmears.id.au...
> "Luc The Perverse" <sll_noSpamli...@cc.usu.edu> wrote in message 
> news:cn4lh3xqre.ln2@loki.cmears.id.au...
>> "Frans" <phasys3...@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
>> news:124eg36gig4vbf6@corp.supernews.com...
>>> And no, it's no reason to kill them, but the killer is crazy, and crazy 
>>> people do crazy
>>> things. If it wasn't this, they would have gone and done something else. 
>>> But the fact
>>> that a few child molesters got killed by some crazy individual, does not 
>>> mean that you
>>> should NOT protect the VICTIMS of child molesters.
>>
>> I agree.  Children should be protected from people would take advantage 
>> of them or hurt them.  Like drug dealers, murderers, insane people, 
>> witches and trolls, gang members and schoolyard bullies.  None of these 
>> people appear in public registries.
>>
>> I have a few assumptions which you do not appear to agree with.
>> 1. Sex registries do no protect victims.  At best they shift victims from 
>> the more paranoid to the less paranoid.
>> 2. Sexual offenses are not unique crimes.   If you are going to have 
>> criminal registries then list everyone and everything, or maybe limit it 
>> to Felonies - but don't choose one crime and make a registry for it.
>> 3. Not all sex crimes are the same.   A man who flashes strippers at a 
>> club is not sufficiently predisposed to child molestation to justify 
>> posting a page about him.
>> 4. Cyric is cool.
>
>
> I disagree to all (why I am not sure) except number 4. That bastard has 
> apparently ditch us again.

Well you come from a deranged, perverse, male dominated society.   But it's 
ok to be wrong if you are brown - I'm just sick of white people who claim to 
live in liberated countries acting like they are Muslim.

Note: I'm not really racist - and probably could have said that better.

Nah it's ok to be wrong.

Seriously.  I don't have anything against tyrannies and theocracies - but 
people need to admit that this is what they are.  Amerika is touted as the 
land of the free.   Freedom for what - freedom to be repressed.  Freedom to 
not be able to buy a sex toy because you voted for the wrong person. 
Freedom to have your children taken away because they kissed someone at 
school.   Our society is fucked up.   I live in this god forsaken shithole 
where feelings rule over logic and the governments checks and balances have 
gone out the window as a conservative asshole decides what is right and 
wrong, while starting random wars.   I admit that I have no place judging 
other cultures.  I view them, and make my own conclusions.  I don't think 
any place in the world is perfect because no place in the world has me as 
emperor - but I wouldn't hold that against anyone.  It seems to me that the 
most desirable place, politically, for me to live would be somewhere in 
Europe - and I need to investigate more to find out just where.   It is 
complicated by the fact that I have family and a wife who would like to see 
my daughter and they seem against and reluctant to relocating respectively - 
though I have no desire to make it difficult for them to see my daughter. 
(And relocating without my wife is out of the question.)

It just sucks.

But really you are wrong to disagree with me because I am right, so 
something other than right must be wrong.

--
LTP

:) 

"Marsh_lion" <marsh...@SPAMparadise.net.nz> wrote in message 
news:444825d5$1@clear.net.nz...
> That is certainly your attitude. Can you "cure" these sorts of people? I 
> certainly believe so. Granted Jail is not the best means to cure them. Let 
> me mention being Gay as an example (I'm not willing to argue weither it is 
> right or wrong, I believe that being Gay is a similar situation to being a 
> sexual offender (except one being legal, and the other not)). A prominant 
> Christian is Sy Rogers who WAS gay, and now is no longer (in fact he 
> preaches from his own experience on why being gay is wrong (in a Christain 
> sense)).

Um . . . .  I doubt the effectiveness of "cured" gays.   I have known 
several men who married and later divorced when they admitted they were gay. 
This is the negative effect of an oppressive religion (in these cases 
Mormonism).

I've often joked that if I divorced my wife that I would turn gay, just to 
ensure I'd be available if she wanted to take me back.  But - the truth is, 
that even though I could claim to be gay and engage in homosexual acts, I 
know I'd still find myself staring at women and their "parts".

> What I ment by that statment is that, while I think most american's have 
> the attitude that they rule the world, I still have to judge each american 
> individually (Luc is an example of this). In the same sense I believe that 
> you still have to judge each offender individually.

I've often speculated that perhaps my beliefs were more in tune with other 
American's than I was led to believe; and that they were just repressed and 
not talking.   But I'm learning that a large number of people actually 
subscribe to this nonsense that I thought I only heard on the television.

People continually make me lose faith in mankind and our country.  It's not 
just sex, it's everything.  (I had some examples, but deleted them because 
they were stupid.)   People will spend 5000$ on a television, but won't 
spend 10$ extra a month to support wind power.

I like to voice my opinions here in AGSC - people at least listen for a 
second.   No one will listen in person.   So I just shutup - and see how it 
could be really easy to succumb to mob mentality.   I did it once - 
pretended I didn't like someone because they were unpopular - back in junior 
high.  (I have subsequently felt bad about that.)  By the time high school 
came around, the unpopular kids were usually that way for reasons I agreed 
with, but I was nice to them so they liked me and clung to me annoyingly. 
It was a social impairment that I found annoying, but I wouldn't have done 
anything to hurt their feelings even if it would have made them go away.

I don't see any love of the fellow man; I don't see tolerance; I don't see 
forgiveness only a bunch of hypocrites preaching it.  All I see is hate, 
anger and finger pointing.

--
LTP

:) 

"Spyderizer" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message 
news:4448d2ee$1@news.orcon.net.nz...
> Steven Ung wrote:
>
> > Hey! "FUCK YOU"!
>
> jerk-o wrote:
>
>> Fuck off, that's my secret
> >
>
> This is pretty much how all our episodes end.

But first Kenny has to die.

--
LTP

:) 

Steven Ung wrote:

 > Hey! "FUCK YOU"!

jerk-o wrote:

> Fuck off, that's my secret
 >

This is pretty much how all our episodes end.

Luc The Perverse wrote:
> "Marsh_lion" <marsh...@SPAMparadise.net.nz> wrote in message 
> news:444825d5$1@clear.net.nz...
> 
>>That is certainly your attitude. Can you "cure" these sorts of people? I 
>>certainly believe so. Granted Jail is not the best means to cure them. Let 
>>me mention being Gay as an example (I'm not willing to argue weither it is 
>>right or wrong, I believe that being Gay is a similar situation to being a 
>>sexual offender (except one being legal, and the other not)). A prominant 
>>Christian is Sy Rogers who WAS gay, and now is no longer (in fact he 
>>preaches from his own experience on why being gay is wrong (in a Christain 
>>sense)).
> 
> 
> Um . . . .  I doubt the effectiveness of "cured" gays.   I have known 
> several men who married and later divorced when they admitted they were gay. 
> This is the negative effect of an oppressive religion (in these cases 
> Mormonism).
> 
I'm not willing to say that those people were "cured". I myself have 
heard of a few stories like this. In today's Society, it is not such a 
big thing to be gay, whereas 20 or more years ago it was (hense why 
there are a number devorced gay people).

> I've often joked that if I divorced my wife that I would turn gay, just to 
> ensure I'd be available if she wanted to take me back.  But - the truth is, 
> that even though I could claim to be gay and engage in homosexual acts, I 
> know I'd still find myself staring at women and their "parts".
> 
So in that case you'd be an oppressed hetrosexual, my how this world is 
turning around :-).
> 
>>What I ment by that statment is that, while I think most american's have 
>>the attitude that they rule the world, I still have to judge each american 
>>individually (Luc is an example of this). In the same sense I believe that 
>>you still have to judge each offender individually.
> 
> 
> I've often speculated that perhaps my beliefs were more in tune with other 
> American's than I was led to believe; and that they were just repressed and 
> not talking.   But I'm learning that a large number of people actually 
> subscribe to this nonsense that I thought I only heard on the television.
> 
It's good to see an american seeing the truth.

> People continually make me lose faith in mankind and our country.  It's not 
> just sex, it's everything.  (I had some examples, but deleted them because 
> they were stupid.)   People will spend 5000$ on a television, but won't 
> spend 10$ extra a month to support wind power.
> 
It's certainly getting to the stage where people are so hung up on 
material things. Let me remind everyone that the person who dies with 
the most toys, still dies. I'd rather leave the world the better off for 
having me (ok my better will differ from others).

> I like to voice my opinions here in AGSC - people at least listen for a 
> second.   No one will listen in person.   So I just shutup - and see how it 
> could be really easy to succumb to mob mentality.   I did it once - 
> pretended I didn't like someone because they were unpopular - back in junior 
> high.  (I have subsequently felt bad about that.)  By the time high school 
> came around, the unpopular kids were usually that way for reasons I agreed 
> with, but I was nice to them so they liked me and clung to me annoyingly. 
> It was a social impairment that I found annoying, but I wouldn't have done 
> anything to hurt their feelings even if it would have made them go away.
> 
> I don't see any love of the fellow man; I don't see tolerance; I don't see 
> forgiveness only a bunch of hypocrites preaching it.  All I see is hate, 
> anger and finger pointing.
> 
Fair enough. I'd certainly say that in part it's because you live in the 
States :-p. I wouldn't be surprised if everyone in the world is a 
hypocrit. I know all christains are (I am a christian, and I guarentee 
you that I have sinned, despite all that I would encorage you not to).
--
Marsh Lion
New Zealand hypocrit