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Frans wrote:
> "Marsh_lion" <marsh...@SPAMparadise.net.nz> wrote in message 
> news:4446c69d$1@clear.net.nz...
> 
>>Frans wrote:

>>>Maybe some people in this newsgroup would like it when their daughters 
>>>got raped by people who live 1 block away.
>>
>>You're making the assumption that they will re-offend. While it is true 
>>that some will re-offend, that is no reason to go and kill them.
> 
> 
> Yes, I am making that assumption, because it happens all the time. A very
> large percentage of offenders have done similar crimes in the past. You 
> can't
> "cure" those people. They have a defect in the melon and the only thing that
> will help is either lock them away for good or chemically castrate them. 
> Since
> neither is an option they get put back in society, with all the dangers that 
> come
> with it.
> 
That is certainly your attitude. Can you "cure" these sorts of people? I 
certainly believe so. Granted Jail is not the best means to cure them. 
Let me mention being Gay as an example (I'm not willing to argue weither 
it is right or wrong, I believe that being Gay is a similar situation to 
being a sexual offender (except one being legal, and the other not)). A 
prominant Christian is Sy Rogers who WAS gay, and now is no longer (in 
fact he preaches from his own experience on why being gay is wrong (in a 
Christain sense)).

> Suppose I had children, I think I would like to know if the one guy living 
> down the
> street was a child rapist or not. As a parent, I think I'd have a right to 
> know. Just
> like that I have a right to know if that big building across the street is 
> an office
> or a police station.
> 
Quite right. Lets assume for a second that you were convicted of having 
consensual sex with a minor when you were 20. You would be on that 
register, What about your right to privacy? What about someone who has 
been cured (again I say you can be cured)?

> And no, it's no reason to kill them, but the killer is crazy, and crazy 
> people do crazy
> things. If it wasn't this, they would have gone and done something else. But 
> the fact
> that a few child molesters got killed by some crazy individual, does not 
> mean that you
> should NOT protect the VICTIMS of child molesters.
> 
I suggest you read Spyda's post (regarding some smart New Zealand Sexual 
Offenders) and tell me, by making publically available addresses etc of 
Sexual offenders, that it prevents more attacks. The victims have 
already had the damage done (so probably don't need protection). The 
released offenders (should they be released is another arguement) have 
to live somewhere, why rob them of a chance to live a normal life (If 
people don't have a "normal" life, it is more likely that they will 
offend in some form or other (not nessercerally a sexual offense)).
> 
>>I don't like President Bush, and generally think that americans have an 
>>attitude that they rule the world. Does that mean that there are no decent 
>>americans? Of course not!
> 
> 
>>FYI I live in New Zealand, a place that Bush didn't know where it was (had 
>>he even heard of us?) before he was elected.
> 
> 
> I live in Holland, and this whole Bush bashing doesn't have anything to do 
> with the
> subject at hand. 
> 
What I ment by that statment is that, while I think most american's have 
the attitude that they rule the world, I still have to judge each 
american individually (Luc is an example of this). In the same sense I 
believe that you still have to judge each offender individually.
--
Marsh Lion
An exception to Luc's Hitlist