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16 total messages Started by SX Glory Wed, 10 Sep 2003 16:16
Privateer 2 on XP
#160787
Author: SX Glory
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 16:16
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OK, I've exhausted my feeble attempts to run P2 under XP. Does anyone else
have trouble installing it (refuses to acknowledge my free HDD space), or is
my blind spot causing me to lose sight of a simple solution?

-SX Glory

PS.: I apologize for my long absence, but believe me I'm back to stay.
Re: Privateer 2 on XP
#160788
Author: Keith Willshaw
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 11:55
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"SX Glory" <sxglory@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> OK, I've exhausted my feeble attempts to run P2 under XP. Does anyone else
> have trouble installing it (refuses to acknowledge my free HDD space), or
is
> my blind spot causing me to lose sight of a simple solution?
>
> -SX Glory
>
> PS.: I apologize for my long absence, but believe me I'm back to stay.
>

>>From another forum
This tip was sent by Bart Hunt (bhunt4@cox.net)
If you try to install on Windows XP and have a large hard disk you get the
"not enough disk space available" error message. If you manually make a
directory of "c:\dark" first on the hard drive the game will install with
out any problems. I have tried this on both fat32 and ntfs partitioned
drives, works every time. By the way it can be any drive partition that is
available not just C:


Keith
Re: Privateer 2 on XP
#160789
Author: Patrick Thompson
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 23:09
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"Keith Willshaw" <keithnospam@kwillshaw.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "SX Glory" <sxglory@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:77I7b.5562$k81.414823@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > OK, I've exhausted my feeble attempts to run P2 under XP. Does anyone
else
> > have trouble installing it (refuses to acknowledge my free HDD space),
or
> is
> > my blind spot causing me to lose sight of a simple solution?
> >
> > -SX Glory
> >
> > PS.: I apologize for my long absence, but believe me I'm back to stay.
> >
>
> From another forum
> This tip was sent by Bart Hunt (bhunt4@cox.net)
> If you try to install on Windows XP and have a large hard disk you get the
> "not enough disk space available" error message. If you manually make a
> directory of "c:\dark" first on the hard drive the game will install with
> out any problems. I have tried this on both fat32 and ntfs partitioned
> drives, works every time. By the way it can be any drive partition that is
> available not just C:
>
>
> Keith

Thanks for the hint--I just got P2, and had to do this.  I have a couple
other questions about the game:

The game I bought is called "Privateer 2 Deluxe Edition."  What is it that
makes this version "Deluxe?"  What versions of the game are out there?

The opening movies ran beautifully (unlike, say, Prophecy, where I can't
seem to shake the Audigy movie-skipping glitch, since the game crashes when
I turn off sound accelleration).  However, in any interactive part of the
game the sound is garbled and the game starts to run very slowly.  This
problem first arose in the bar dialogue choice, and persisted when I tried
to use my PADD.  Interestingly, if I hit "Esc" the game returns to a
playable speed for a fraction of a second, before dropping back down.

My system specs:
P4 1.7 GHz
WinXP SP1
GeForce 5200, with latest official drivers
SB Audigy
About 2-3 GB free HD space (which will likely be my next upgrade).

Thanks!
Re: Privateer 2 on XP
#160790
Author: Karl Frank
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:42
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Patrick Thompson wrote:

> The game I bought is called "Privateer 2 Deluxe Edition."  What is it that
> makes this version "Deluxe?"  What versions of the game are out there?

Deluxe should indicate that it is a Windows version.

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Re: Privateer 2 on XP
#160791
Author: Patrick Thompson
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:37
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"Karl Frank" <karl@karl.frank.name> wrote in message
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> Patrick Thompson wrote:
>
> > The game I bought is called "Privateer 2 Deluxe Edition."  What is it
that
> > makes this version "Deluxe?"  What versions of the game are out there?
>
> Deluxe should indicate that it is a Windows version.

Are there any other differences?  I've noticed a couple patches for P2, but
I'm not sure if they're for the Deluxe Edition release or the original (or
perhaps both).  Likewise, any advice on getting the game to run smoothly?
Re: Privateer 2 on XP
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Author: Karl Frank
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:05
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Patrick Thompson wrote:

> Are there any other differences?  I've noticed a couple patches for P2, but
> I'm not sure if they're for the Deluxe Edition release or the original (or
> perhaps both).  Likewise, any advice on getting the game to run smoothly?

All the stuff that is related to DOS or Windows. The DOS version can be 
slowdowned by using MOSLO, the Windows version cannot. The Windows 
version should be able to use USB joysticks I think. The Windows version 
should runs a bit more stable and should already have all the patches I 
think (I only own DOS versions, so I am not too sure here).

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Re: Privateer 2 on XP
#160793
Author: Patrick Thompson
Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2003 21:28
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"Karl Frank" <karl@karl.frank.name> wrote in message
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> Patrick Thompson wrote:
>
> > Are there any other differences?  I've noticed a couple patches for P2,
but
> > I'm not sure if they're for the Deluxe Edition release or the original
(or
> > perhaps both).  Likewise, any advice on getting the game to run
smoothly?
>
> All the stuff that is related to DOS or Windows. The DOS version can be
> slowdowned by using MOSLO, the Windows version cannot. The Windows
> version should be able to use USB joysticks I think. The Windows version
> should runs a bit more stable and should already have all the patches I
> think (I only own DOS versions, so I am not too sure here).

Using the windows slowdown patch has almost completely cured my main
problems running the game.  However, I haven't had any luck getting my
joysticks to run.  When I first tried flight the joystick wasn't plugged in
so I set the game to mouse control, and now I don't know how to set it to
use joysticks.  I have a gamepad hooked up to my USB port and a Wingman
Extreme Digital connected to my game port, and neither one is responding at
all.

In another question, how can I figure out when trade routes will be
profitable?  I saw a news bulletin that Anhur has a strong ore market, and
did well transporting ore there, but beyond that I haven't a clue what to
transport that will make me any profit.  People have mentioned other mission
types...can you only get those through the core plot or are there random
missions besides just cargo runs?
Re: Privateer 2 on XP
#160794
Author: Spalls Hurgenson
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 05:31
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On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 21:28:10 GMT, "Patrick Thompson"
<p.h.thompson@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>"Karl Frank" <karl@karl.frank.name> wrote in message
>news:1067616210.476847@news.ainet.at...
>> Patrick Thompson wrote:
>>
>
>Using the windows slowdown patch has almost completely cured my main
>problems running the game.  

Windows slowdown patch? I haven't heard about that one. I know about
the "turn down soundcard acceleration" hack, but I'd much prefer a
patch so I don't have to reboot after playing P2 (necessary when
turning soundcard acceleration back on). Link, please?
Re: Privateer 2 on XP
#160795
Author: Patrick Thompson
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 07:36
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"Spalls Hurgenson" <yoinks@ebalu.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 21:28:10 GMT, "Patrick Thompson"
> <p.h.thompson@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
> >"Karl Frank" <karl@karl.frank.name> wrote in message
> >news:1067616210.476847@news.ainet.at...
> >> Patrick Thompson wrote:
> >>
> >
> >Using the windows slowdown patch has almost completely cured my main
> >problems running the game.
>
> Windows slowdown patch? I haven't heard about that one. I know about
> the "turn down soundcard acceleration" hack, but I'd much prefer a
> patch so I don't have to reboot after playing P2 (necessary when
> turning soundcard acceleration back on). Link, please?

Try http://wcrevival.de/hcl/exe_dll/ or
http://originalthp.solsector.net/privateer2win95/

Hope these help.

Patrick
Re: Privateer 2 on XP
#160799
Author: Karl Frank
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 08:28
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Patrick Thompson wrote:

> In another question, how can I figure out when trade routes will be
> profitable? 

Note down the prices (also don't forget to note down quantity). They are 
constant except in the case of news bullettins.
Crius Hermer Anhur is a very profitable (and save) triangle.

> I saw a news bulletin that Anhur has a strong ore market, and
> did well transporting ore there, but beyond that I haven't a clue what to
> transport that will make me any profit.

Note that news like that only stays valid for 3 landings IIRC.

> People have mentioned other mission
> types...can you only get those through the core plot or are there random
> missions besides just cargo runs?

You can get missions where you hire pilots.
You can get plot missions.
You can get missions when activating your SOS-comm system ('o' IIRC)
You can get missions that look like regular SOS missions (but they 
usually do not offer money in their mail) while your SOS system is 
deactivated (you get them mixed into the random SOS stuff if activated). 
Take those at all costs - these are sideplots, whic only appear once, 
but some of them are extremely valuable (you get stuff not buyable)

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A: Eight. One to work the bulb, and seven to make sure that Micro$oft 
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Re: Privateer 2 on XP
#160796
Author: Patrick Thompson
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 04:05
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Are there some play balance problems in the game?  It seems to me that the
Skull light fighter is significantly more durable than it should be.  I
can't for the life of my kill one of these guys.  I've taken out cap ships
with just my guns, but it seems that with these guys my guns overheat before
I can knock off even half of their shields.  It seems to me that the
Jincilla stats for the light and heavy fighters might be switched, since I
can knock off the Jincilla heavy fighter (the Tacon) with no problems at
all.  I'm currently flying a Shaman with dual flux cannons, and I'm getting
frustrated having to depend on my wingman AI to take out the Skulls at NAV
36 in the Senator's Daughter mission.

Is this a problem anyone else has had, or am I just crazy?
Re: Privateer 2 on XP
#160797
Author: Karl Frank
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 09:01
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Patrick Thompson wrote:

> Are there some play balance problems in the game?  It seems to me that the
> Skull light fighter is significantly more durable than it should be.  

Yes and no. The stats are probably correct and those critters aren't 
particulary hard to destroy. The problem is that you simply don't hit 
them 90% of the time. Any yeah - the skull is the most annoying ship in 
the game. You might want to try missiles for them instead...

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Re: Privateer 2 on XP
#160798
Author: Patrick Thompson
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 00:22
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"Karl Frank" <karl@karl.frank.name> wrote in message
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> Patrick Thompson wrote:
>
> > Are there some play balance problems in the game?  It seems to me that
the
> > Skull light fighter is significantly more durable than it should be.
>
> Yes and no. The stats are probably correct and those critters aren't
> particulary hard to destroy. The problem is that you simply don't hit
> them 90% of the time. Any yeah - the skull is the most annoying ship in
> the game. You might want to try missiles for them instead...

Which missle will actually hit them?  They seem to shake off any missle I
shoot at them (I've tried Pythons, Brute Mk II's, and proximities).
Re: Privateer 2 on XP
#160800
Author: Dantan
Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2004 17:56
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Is there a good source for step by step procedure on how to install Privateer 2 on an xp system???

I have not been able to play it for 3 years, because I only have an XP system now... and I concider it one of the best games ever written.

Thank you for any help.

Dantan
Re: Privateer 2 on XP
#160801
Author: Quinch
Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2004 19:23
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Dantan wrote:
> Is there a good source for step by step procedure on how to install Privateer 2 on an xp system???
> 
> I have not been able to play it for 3 years, because I only have an XP system now... and I concider it one of the best games ever written.
> 
> Thank you for any help.
> 
> Dantan

I don't have XP on hand here, but the procedure should work. Try 
creating a shortcut to install.exe to somewhere on your hard drive, then 
  right-click it {the shortcut} and click "prevent MS-DOS programs from 
detecting Windows" or any equivelant thereof. Ditto for the actual game 
executable.

Regards,

Quinch
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Re: Privateer 2 on XP
#160803
Author: Dantan
Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 03:56
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Is there a good source for step by step procedure on how to install Privateer 2 on an xp system???

I have not been able to play it for 3 years, because I only have an XP system now... and I concider it one of the best games ever written.

Thank you for any help.

Dantan
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