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In article <DJJJ4...@ecf.toronto.edu>,
   doy...@ecf.toronto.edu (DOYAMA  JASON) wrote:
>	Ok finished the game with Humans.  Found it to be really easy, 
>except the last 2 but only provided minor annoyance.  So go over to the 
>custom scenarios and try: Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide.  The map's the 
>same size as the first mission, very small.  I choose (to my later utter 
>fright) 3 comp players, thinking that would be challenging.
>
>	It's layed out so each team has one corner, separated by a thin 
>wooded area shaped like a cross.  I enables the 'showpath' cheat to see 
>if the computer had some unfair advantage over me.  It DID NOT!!!  Each 
>team started with one peasant or peon just like me.
>
>	10 Minutes later all 3 teams charged in and quickly laid waste to 
>me.  I hang my head in shame....
>
>	I'd like to hear if anyone can finish this one vs 3 comps.  I'm 
>going to try with 2 next time.  Mabye I'll last 20 minutes instead :<
>
>	Any other really cool custom scenario missions built in someone 
>can reccomend?
>
>	Jason Doyama
>

Interesting. I read your post and tried it with 3 cpu opponents, and I beat it 
withing 15 minutes without any cheating. Though I saved several times, I never 
loaded. This level is so straight forward if you play it right.

Hint hint, don't ever let the thin wooded area be broken, not even a small 
gap. Build 3 towers at the 3 cornors facing the enemy will kill off anyone 
who's chopping trees. Once they can't get any more lumber. the cpu players 
will send waves and waves of peons to get lumber, and hence to be killed by 
your towers.  They will also send any army they already have to stand in front
of the wood barrier to feed your towers. Just take care of your peons and let 
them always leave some trees there when they are chopping. By the time you can 
not get ang lumber without breaking the tree barrier yourself, you are already 
rich enogh to build an army to wipe out all the 3 components, who have no army 
other than a couple of peons.

Of course at the beginning you have to build fast enough so that you can  get 
guard/cannon towers before their peons break the tree barrier. What I built 
were

1 town hall -> 1 farm -> 4 more peons -> 1  farm -> 4 more peons ->
lumber mill -> gurad tower -> blacksmith -> cannon tower -> cannon tower

Have fun.

In article <4aosj9$8...@decaxp.harvard.edu>,
Yidong Ding <di...@fas.harvard.edu> wrote:
>In article <DJJJ4...@ecf.toronto.edu>,
>   doy...@ecf.toronto.edu (DOYAMA  JASON) wrote:
>>	Ok finished the game with Humans.  Found it to be really easy, 
>>except the last 2 but only provided minor annoyance.  So go over to the 
>>custom scenarios and try: Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide.  The map's the 
>>same size as the first mission, very small.  I choose (to my later utter 
>>fright) 3 comp players, thinking that would be challenging.
>>
>>	Jason Doyama
>>
>
>Interesting. I read your post and tried it with 3 cpu opponents, and I beat it 
>withing 15 minutes without any cheating. Though I saved several times, I never 
>loaded. This level is so straight forward if you play it right.
>
>Hint hint, don't ever let the thin wooded area be broken, not even a small 
>gap. Build 3 towers at the 3 cornors facing the enemy will kill off anyone 
>who's chopping trees. Once they can't get any more lumber. the cpu players 
>will send waves and waves of peons to get lumber, and hence to be killed by 
>your towers.  They will also send any army they already have to stand in front
>of the wood barrier to feed your towers. Just take care of your peons and let 
>them always leave some trees there when they are chopping. By the time you can 
>not get ang lumber without breaking the tree barrier yourself, you are already 
>rich enogh to build an army to wipe out all the 3 components, who have no army 
>other than a couple of peons.
>
>Of course at the beginning you have to build fast enough so that you can  get 
>guard/cannon towers before their peons break the tree barrier. What I built 
>were
>
>1 town hall -> 1 farm -> 4 more peons -> 1  farm -> 4 more peons ->
>lumber mill -> gurad tower -> blacksmith -> cannon tower -> cannon tower
>
	Thanks.  I'll try that.  I never built guard towers in the single 
player game, so I didn't see a need in the custom scenarios.  I guess in 
these tight situations, they're pretty good.

	I did try to keep the peon army from breaking through the wood 
barrier to no avail the first time.  Maybe cuz it was the first time I 
was a little overwhelmed (yeah lousy excuse I know :>)  I'll try again 
using your strategy.
	
	Jason Doyama
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DOYAMA  JASON (doy...@ecf.toronto.edu) wrote:
: >
: >1 town hall -> 1 farm -> 4 more peons -> 1  farm -> 4 more peons ->
: >lumber mill -> gurad tower -> blacksmith -> cannon tower -> cannon tower
: >
: 	Thanks.  I'll try that.  I never built guard towers in the single 
: player game, so I didn't see a need in the custom scenarios.  I guess in 
: these tight situations, they're pretty good.

  Your best defense are walls and towers.  The computer will not attack the
wall.  It will however produce dragons and blow you away from the sky.
So you'll need both canon and guard towers, for better defense.

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In article <DJJJ4...@ecf.toronto.edu>, doy...@ecf.toronto.edu÷ says...

>
>        I'd like to hear if anyone can finish this one vs 3 comps.  I'm 
>going to try with 2 next time.  Mabye I'll last 20 minutes instead :<

These scenarios are really maps designed for head-to-head play, so once you 
figure out a technique, there is really nothing to it. This map in 
particular is fun for a quick blood bath with 4 players:)  However, against 
the computer, use guard towers. They only require a Luber Mill, so they can 
be built quickly.  place them as close to the tree border as possible, they'l 
keep peasants from opening up a path to your area.. Remember, you're limited 
in space on this map so place your farms, lumber mill, etc. carefully and 
don;t build unnecessary buildings.  Once you cut off his lumber supply, it's 
over:)

>
>        Any other really cool custom scenario missions built in someone 
>can reccomend?
>

Try the "Veteran Scenarios".  They will give you a challenge if you don't use 
any cheat codes.  To get to these scenarios, go to single player - custom 
game.  them change where it says "Built In Scenario" to "Custom Scenario". 
There are 7 veteran scenarios I think....