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There were a few posts on the SC2 forums about everyone just buying the US 
version. Certainly, if I live in Oz/NZ I think that getting a US version is 
the only way to go. I mean, when I play Team Fortress 2, or most Steam 
games, I can play worldwide, USA, Canada, Eastern Europe, Russia no problem. 

On Sun, 30 May 2010 21:48:24 +0300,
ihatespamandyoumustremov...@mbnet.fi (MuuMiMan)
wrote:

>So, Blizzard has, in their infinite wisdom, decided to keep the
>playerbase segrated by region (US, Europe, Asia), because they're a
>bunch of retards.
>
>Just thought I'd let you know(if anyone's reading this lol) that I'll
>probably be making my account for the US realm instead of Euro as
>there's a bunch of other peeps I'll also be playing this game with,
>and the only way to switch realms is to buy another CD-key.
>
>Welcome to the year 2010, where you'll find games lacking features
>they had 12 years ago!
>
>
>...Wait, holy shit I'm old :v

Do you need a US game version to play US servers?

And how shitty is the latency?

On Mon, 31 May 2010 14:36:44 +0100, "Carl" <me@theworld.universe>
wrote:

>There were a few posts on the SC2 forums about everyone just buying the US 
>version. Certainly, if I live in Oz/NZ I think that getting a US version is 
>the only way to go. I mean, when I play Team Fortress 2, or most Steam 
>games, I can play worldwide, USA, Canada, Eastern Europe, Russia no problem. 

I'm pretty sure Aussies already belong to the US region, as is the
case with World of Warcraft, unless Blizardz have finally erected
local servers for them.

Anyway, I remember when the EU version of World of Warcraft was
launched, the FAQ said that support for playing with people across
regions was being worked on and would be coming in the near future.
5-6 years later, the only thing that's happened on that front is that
the blurb in the FAQ concerning this topic has been stealthily
removed.

I would like to take this moment to say fuck you, Blizzard, for making
everything ten times harder than it fucking has to be!

I've read that if you are in the EU, if you want to play on US servers, 
you'll have to buy the US version of the game. 

On Jun 3, 3:08 am, Byers <mrby...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 31 May 2010 14:36:44 +0100, "Carl" <m...@theworld.universe>
> wrote:
>
> >There were a few posts on the SC2 forums about everyone just buying the US
> >version. Certainly, if I live in Oz/NZ I think that getting a US version is
> >the only way to go. I mean, when I play Team Fortress 2, or most Steam
> >games, I can play worldwide, USA, Canada, Eastern Europe, Russia no problem.
>
> I'm pretty sure Aussies already belong to the US region, as is the
> case with World of Warcraft, unless Blizardz have finally erected
> local servers for them.
>
> Anyway, I remember when the EU version of World of Warcraft was
> launched, the FAQ said that support for playing with people across
> regions was being worked on and would be coming in the near future.
> 5-6 years later, the only thing that's happened on that front is that
> the blurb in the FAQ concerning this topic has been stealthily
> removed.
>
> I would like to take this moment to say fuck you, Blizzard, for making
> everything ten times harder than it fucking has to be!

I concur to your fucking Blizzard. I'd do the same even though I have
no idea what is going on. Screw them for taking so long to release SC
II.

Also I notice that there aren't any discussion on Asian servers or I'd
take it that the Asian servers are as good as non-existence even
though Koreans are world ass kickers of Blizzard games? So fuck
Blizzard again
--
Steven Ung
The Perogative Asian

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>
>Do you need a US game version to play US servers?
>
I dunno, for the beta at least none of the CD-keys are region-locked,
the only thing you needed to do is to register on the battle.net
website with a US street adress and it'll dump you with the americans
and the US client regardless of what your real IP at the time is. I'd
gather it'll prolly be much the same for the retail release. I hope.

>And how shitty is the latency?

Shittier than Iccup/LAN-latency modified Brood War if that says
anything. Better than vanilla BW.

On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 05:24:25 -0700 (PDT), Roy Steven
<steven...@gmail.com> wrote:

>I concur to your fucking Blizzard. I'd do the same even though I have
>no idea what is going on. Screw them for taking so long to release SC
>II.
>
>Also I notice that there aren't any discussion on Asian servers or I'd
>take it that the Asian servers are as good as non-existence even
>though Koreans are world ass kickers of Blizzard games? So fuck
>Blizzard again

Well I'm pretty sure there will be Korean servers. No idea about the
rest of the gh3y asian world.

On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 05:19:25 +0300,
ihatespamandyoumustremov...@mbnet.fi (MuuMiMan)
wrote:

>>Do you need a US game version to play US servers?
>>
>I dunno, for the beta at least none of the CD-keys are region-locked,
>the only thing you needed to do is to register on the battle.net
>website with a US street adress and it'll dump you with the americans
>and the US client regardless of what your real IP at the time is. I'd
>gather it'll prolly be much the same for the retail release. I hope.

Pretty sure they're not gonna detect your IP. They didn't do that with
WoW, which is also region locked. But ordering the game from overseas
is gonna take a couple weeks. And you'll probably have to do it
through ebay or something, most US outlets don't ship to Europe.

And you'll have to use a dummy bnet account as opposed to the one in
your name that you add your other Blizzard games to, probably.

>>And how shitty is the latency?
>
>Shittier than Iccup/LAN-latency modified Brood War if that says
>anything. Better than vanilla BW.

Well, I was hoping for the amount in milliseconds. If it rises above
300, good micro is gonna be out the window and you're not gonna be
able to play the game competitively at a high level.

On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 00:32:58 +0100, "Carl" <me@theworld.universe>
wrote:

>I've read that if you are in the EU, if you want to play on US servers, 
>you'll have to buy the US version of the game. 

Craptastic.

On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 05:19:25 +0300,
ihatespamandyoumustremov...@mbnet.fi (MuuMiMan)
wrote:

>I dunno, for the beta at least none of the CD-keys are region-locked,
>the only thing you needed to do is to register on the battle.net
>website with a US street adress and it'll dump you with the americans
>and the US client regardless of what your real IP at the time is. I'd
>gather it'll prolly be much the same for the retail release. I hope.
>
>>And how shitty is the latency?
>
>Shittier than Iccup/LAN-latency modified Brood War if that says
>anything. Better than vanilla BW.

Just get the US people to make EU accounts. Expand their fucking
horizons a bit.

In article <1bc5061chgu8ddnnr...@4ax.com>, MuuMiMan
<ihatespamandyoumustremov...@mbnet.fi> writes
>
>...Wait, holy shit I'm old :v

Join the club.

-- 
Cheers,

Chas.

"Reality leaves a lot to the imagination".

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>On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 05:24:25 -0700 (PDT), Roy Steven
><steven...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>I concur to your fucking Blizzard. I'd do the same even though I have
>>no idea what is going on. Screw them for taking so long to release SC
>>II.
>>
>>Also I notice that there aren't any discussion on Asian servers or I'd
>>take it that the Asian servers are as good as non-existence even
>>though Koreans are world ass kickers of Blizzard games? So fuck
>>Blizzard again
>
>Well I'm pretty sure there will be Korean servers. No idea about the
>rest of the gh3y asian world.

Currently rest of Asia is dumped together with the koreans.

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>
>>>And how shitty is the latency?
>>
>>Shittier than Iccup/LAN-latency modified Brood War if that says
>>anything. Better than vanilla BW.
>
>Well, I was hoping for the amount in milliseconds. If it rises above
>300, good micro is gonna be out the window and you're not gonna be
>able to play the game competitively at a high level.

Lan latency BW is around 100 ms assuming your connection to the
opponent isn't higher, regular b.net BW was somewhere in the 300-400
ms range or so and obviously you couldn't really do any fancy shit
like muta micro or move-shoot and even goon dancing was a huge pain in
the ass.

Supposedly the US b.net ran at something retarded high when they
started out, but it's been fixed. Still not as fast as BW with the lan
patch, though - Someone on TL made a test, but I can't remember what
their conclusion was out of memory.

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>In article <1bc5061chgu8ddnnr...@4ax.com>, MuuMiMan
><ihatespamandyoumustremov...@mbnet.fi> writes
>>
>>...Wait, holy shit I'm old :v
>
>Join the club.

You must be a zombie by this point or something I'll take it.
<

On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 21:00:52 +0300,
ihatespamandyoumustremov...@mbnet.fi (MuuMiMan)
wrote:

>>Well I'm pretty sure there will be Korean servers. No idea about the
>>rest of the gh3y asian world.
>
>Currently rest of Asia is dumped together with the koreans.

I guess Blizzard can't tell them apart either. 

/racism

On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 21:10:32 +0300,
ihatespamandyoumustremov...@mbnet.fi (MuuMiMan)
wrote:

>Lan latency BW is around 100 ms assuming your connection to the
>opponent isn't higher, regular b.net BW was somewhere in the 300-400
>ms range or so and obviously you couldn't really do any fancy shit
>like muta micro or move-shoot and even goon dancing was a huge pain in
>the ass.
>
>Supposedly the US b.net ran at something retarded high when they
>started out, but it's been fixed. Still not as fast as BW with the lan
>patch, though - Someone on TL made a test, but I can't remember what
>their conclusion was out of memory.

If it's 300+ on US I'm playing on EU servers.

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>
>>Supposedly the US b.net ran at something retarded high when they
>>started out, but it's been fixed. Still not as fast as BW with the lan
>>patch, though - Someone on TL made a test, but I can't remember what
>>their conclusion was out of memory.
>
>If it's 300+ on US I'm playing on EU servers.

It's not a technical limitation, it's a software one, same as if you
play unmodified SC1 on vanilla b.net, you will have this 300-500 ms
command latency even if you both run normal high-speed low-ping
connections, because that's just the way the game is programmed to
work in that mode.

FWIW I have no problem doing gay micro on the US servers myself in
SC2. In other games I tend to ping like 150 to east coast locations
usually.

On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 23:03:25 +0300,
ihatespamandyoumustremov...@mbnet.fi (MuuMiMan)
wrote:

>It's not a technical limitation, it's a software one, same as if you
>play unmodified SC1 on vanilla b.net, you will have this 300-500 ms
>command latency even if you both run normal high-speed low-ping
>connections, because that's just the way the game is programmed to
>work in that mode.
>
>FWIW I have no problem doing gay micro on the US servers myself in
>SC2. In other games I tend to ping like 150 to east coast locations
>usually.

Lol. Why would they add 500ms of unnecessary lag to the game for no
reason? The original SC maybe, because it ran on caveman technology
and they had to mash two stones together to start up the server.

And most Blizzard servers are on the west coast. Where, at least on
WoW, you get 300ms at best (if you modify your network packet settings
- about 400+ if you don't).

I too would like to play with people from other regions, but if you're
playing against people your own skill level in a close game, and they
have 250ms less latency than you, you're gonna lose every time, unless
they have an aneurysm while they play.

In article <3p4l06dssnd97f9tg...@4ax.com>, MuuMiMan
<ihatespamandyoumustremov...@mbnet.fi> writes
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>>In article <1bc5061chgu8ddnnr...@4ax.com>, MuuMiMan
>><ihatespamandyoumustremov...@mbnet.fi> writes
>>>
>>>...Wait, holy shit I'm old :v
>>
>>Join the club.
>
>You must be a zombie by this point or something I'll take it.

"Something" just about covers it. ;-}

-- 
Cheers,

Chas.

"Reality leaves a lot to the imagination".