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"Jam" <Jaysam168@optusnetnospammingnow.com.au> wrote in message 
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> On my own this time (where are you!?!), i took my originally named 
> TheUberSmiter (clvl 77) and equipped him with what i had. Guillamines 
> helm(Pdiamonded),

Err, why on earth do you have a p diamond in your Guillames? It only adds 
res in shield, in helm it adds all of 100 attack rating, absolutely 
worthless with smite since it's ITD. Um or res jewel that sucker, or hell, 
if those not availble throw in a shael(30 FHR on Guillames+20 on Shael hits 
the 48 FHR breakpoint) or a p ruby for an extra 38 life.

> Seraphs hymn(2/2), Duriels shell, Dracs, Black runeworded knout, 40 base 
> res sacred targe(4x Pdiamonded), Nos' coil and Gorerider boots. Items in 
> the inventory didn't help much... a 13/13 anni, 14 RA GC and a few ~20 
> life LCs. I think his merc is about lvl 6 hehehe... she stayed dead :P

Why not hire a new merc? You don't gotta level em now, so whatever you hired 
would be within 5 levels of you...

> TUS' skills are maxed smite, maxed salvation, maxed holy shield and maxed 
> fana.
>
> First up in the lessers lineup, Duriel. This was also the first inkling of 
> the disaster that was to come. Wimpy old Duriel, the lesser we used to 
> chuckle at, was continuously hitting TUS for 2/3 to 3/4 of his lifeball.

Huh, that's odd.

> Much thought was embarked apon before faceing Izual. It was decided that, 
> with the realms being as stable as they are (lmao), Hammerdin would be 
> bought in to tele to Izzy, and then TUS would smite him down.... we'd 
> clean up the minions later! Well, after Hammerdin died 4 times, i enlisted 
> the aid of my 7 yo son to throw hammers and add concentration, while TUS 
> smited and fanatacized(haha, work that one out!)  proceedings. Many deaths 
> followed, much curseing (not lifetap worse luck) but we did get him..... 
> lifetap refused to trigger _at all_ during the battle... many, many 
> purples where consumed.

In my experience, to get tap to trigger you're better off zealing, then 
smite once it's triggered.

> Now, i have no idea what my stacked resistances are

Based on my math, your shield adds 116, 13 from anni, 14 from gc, 20 all and 
an extra 30 cold from armor, plus I assume 30 from Anya. That makes...193, 
and 223 cold. If you were smiting with Salvation on, that's another 110 or 
so. So, assuming you were fighting with Salv on, you had res of 303/333. 
With -100 from hell penalty and -125 at least from conviction(dunno if Meph 
has higher than lvl 20 conviction or not) that puts your res at max, and I 
wouldn't think he would have hurt you that much unless your life was really 
low. Although if you had fana on and not salv, your res woulda been way in 
the red, which would explain the 1 hit KOs.

> Now, to sell the unid LC, or ID it? First run, much struggleing, much 
> death, much anticipation ... Yep id it! Want to guess what it was?
>
> 10/10 Druid.

LOL, will the joy never cease.


> Jay
> 

Somewhere on the interweb "Jam" typed:
> And so it came to pass, that after much quarreling (tradeing), much
> repetition (leveling) and much thought (highly unusual), once again i
> was ready to attempt the beast that is UT.
>
> On my own this time (where are you!?!), i took my originally named
> TheUberSmiter (clvl 77) and equipped him with what i had. Guillamines
> helm(Pdiamonded), Seraphs hymn(2/2), Duriels shell, Dracs, Black
> runeworded knout, 40 base res sacred targe(4x Pdiamonded), Nos' coil
> and Gorerider boots. Items in the inventory didn't help much... a
> 13/13 anni, 14 RA GC and a few ~20 life LCs. I think his merc is
> about lvl 6 hehehe... she stayed dead :P
> TUS' skills are maxed smite, maxed salvation, maxed holy shield and
> maxed fana.
>
> First up in the lessers lineup, Duriel. This was also the first
> inkling of the disaster that was to come. Wimpy old Duriel, the
> lesser we used to chuckle at, was continuously hitting TUS for 2/3 to
> 3/4 of his lifeball. Fortunantly, lifetap went off early and it
> wasn't long before Duriel was eating the forgotten sand (i believe he
> forgot how awful it was).
> Much thought was embarked apon before faceing Izual. It was decided
> that, with the realms being as stable as they are (lmao), Hammerdin
> would be bought in to tele to Izzy, and then TUS would smite him
> down.... we'd clean up the minions later! Well, after Hammerdin died
> 4 times, i enlisted the aid of my 7 yo son to throw hammers and add
> concentration, while TUS smited and fanatacized(haha, work that one
> out!)  proceedings. Many deaths followed, much curseing (not lifetap
> worse luck) but we did get him..... lifetap refused to trigger _at
> all_ during the battle... many, many purples where consumed.
>
> Last up, my personal favourite, Andarial.... actually, she went down
> reasonably easy. Gulped a few poison pots, Hammerdin tele'd to her
> and threw a tp around the corner, TUS came in, lifetap went off on
> the second blow, and the rest was history, even though the young
> fella complained when Andy one hitted him through the wall :)
>
> I had no intention of selling a organset, i think the current market
> price of ist is rather undervalued. Checking the stability of the
> game, i opened a beer, and proceeded to open the portal to UT.
>
> Now, i have no idea what my stacked resistances are, but I drew Meph
> first, and that sucker was one hitting me every 3 minutes. Half the
> time, there wasn't even a chance to guzzle a purple, netherless my
> beer :(  Must of taken 8 or so deaths before the ugly bugger fell
> over. Of course, once Mephs conviction is done away with, Baal and
> Diablo are relatively easy and it wasn't long before they spat up 2
> SoH and a Unique LC.....
> Now, to sell the unid LC, or ID it? First run, much struggleing, much
> death, much anticipation ... Yep id it! Want to guess what it was?
>
> 10/10 Druid.

Ouch! It couldn't be any worse! You have my sympathies. Still, on the bright 
side, the next one will be an 18/17 Pally torch.

<sacrifices a chicken and draws pentagrams with it's blood, chanting all the 
while.....>

> Ever seen a grown man weep over a game?
> Not pretty!

I bet. Got pics? LOL.

Better luck next time Jay.
-- 
TTFN

Shaun. 

"Jam" <Jaysam168@optusnetnospammingnow.com.au> wrote in message 
news:470b3d8e$0$6690$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> And so it came to pass, that after much quarreling (tradeing), much 
> repetition (leveling) and much thought (highly unusual), once again i was 
> ready to attempt the beast that is UT.
>
> On my own this time (where are you!?!), i took my originally named 
> TheUberSmiter (clvl 77) and equipped him with what i had. Guillamines 
> helm(Pdiamonded), Seraphs hymn(2/2), Duriels shell, Dracs, Black 
> runeworded knout, 40 base res sacred targe(4x Pdiamonded), Nos' coil and 
> Gorerider boots. Items in the inventory didn't help much... a 13/13 anni, 
> 14 RA GC and a few ~20 life LCs. I think his merc is about lvl 6 hehehe... 
> she stayed dead :P
> TUS' skills are maxed smite, maxed salvation, maxed holy shield and maxed 
> fana.
>
> First up in the lessers lineup, Duriel. This was also the first inkling of 
> the disaster that was to come. Wimpy old Duriel, the lesser we used to 
> chuckle at, was continuously hitting TUS for 2/3 to 3/4 of his lifeball. 
> Fortunantly, lifetap went off early and it wasn't long before Duriel was 
> eating the forgotten sand (i believe he forgot how awful it was).
>
> Much thought was embarked apon before faceing Izual. It was decided that, 
> with the realms being as stable as they are (lmao), Hammerdin would be 
> bought in to tele to Izzy, and then TUS would smite him down.... we'd 
> clean up the minions later! Well, after Hammerdin died 4 times, i enlisted 
> the aid of my 7 yo son to throw hammers and add concentration, while TUS 
> smited and fanatacized(haha, work that one out!)  proceedings. Many deaths 
> followed, much curseing (not lifetap worse luck) but we did get him..... 
> lifetap refused to trigger _at all_ during the battle... many, many 
> purples where consumed.
>
> Last up, my personal favourite, Andarial.... actually, she went down 
> reasonably easy. Gulped a few poison pots, Hammerdin tele'd to her and 
> threw a tp around the corner, TUS came in, lifetap went off on the second 
> blow, and the rest was history, even though the young fella complained 
> when Andy one hitted him through the wall :)
>
> I had no intention of selling a organset, i think the current market price 
> of ist is rather undervalued. Checking the stability of the game, i opened 
> a beer, and proceeded to open the portal to UT.
>
> Now, i have no idea what my stacked resistances are, but I drew Meph 
> first, and that sucker was one hitting me every 3 minutes. Half the time, 
> there wasn't even a chance to guzzle a purple, netherless my beer :(  Must 
> of taken 8 or so deaths before the ugly bugger fell over. Of course, once 
> Mephs conviction is done away with, Baal and Diablo are relatively easy 
> and it wasn't long before they spat up 2 SoH and a Unique LC.....
>
> Now, to sell the unid LC, or ID it? First run, much struggleing, much 
> death, much anticipation ... Yep id it! Want to guess what it was?
>
> 10/10 Druid.
>
> Ever seen a grown man weep over a game?
> Not pretty!
>
> Jay


Bad luck on the 10/10 Druid torch. Congratz on UT run. Good to see you 
again. ;-)
-- 
Jake Mysterio - The Mysterious One of Nothingness. 

"Shiflet" <rshiflet@charter.net> wrote in message 
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>
> "Jam" <Jaysam168@optusnetnospammingnow.com.au> wrote in message 
> news:470b3d8e$0$6690$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>
>> On my own this time (where are you!?!), i took my originally named 
>> TheUberSmiter (clvl 77) and equipped him with what i had. Guillamines 
>> helm(Pdiamonded),
>
> Err, why on earth do you have a p diamond in your Guillames? It only adds 
> res in shield, in helm it adds all of 100 attack rating, absolutely 
> worthless with smite since it's ITD. Um or res jewel that sucker, or hell, 
> if those not availble throw in a shael(30 FHR on Guillames+20 on Shael 
> hits the 48 FHR breakpoint) or a p ruby for an extra 38 life.
>

Let's put pdiamonding the Guillaume's down to a brain fart ;)
Countess dropped me a um today on a key run, the only RA jewel i've found so 
far is a decent lld thing (i think) so i'll hell/um the helm before the next 
run. Cheers!

>> Seraphs hymn(2/2), Duriels shell, Dracs, Black runeworded knout, 40 base 
>> res sacred targe(4x Pdiamonded), Nos' coil and Gorerider boots. Items in 
>> the inventory didn't help much... a 13/13 anni, 14 RA GC and a few ~20 
>> life LCs. I think his merc is about lvl 6 hehehe... she stayed dead :P
>
> Why not hire a new merc? You don't gotta level em now, so whatever you 
> hired would be within 5 levels of you...
>

I've found that no merc i've had lasted more than 10 seconds in UT. Maybe a 
Rogue with a faith bow would work, or one of the Iron Wolf mob, but i can't 
really see the benefit of haveing one more life bulb to worry about :)

>> TUS' skills are maxed smite, maxed salvation, maxed holy shield and maxed 
>> fana.
>>
>> First up in the lessers lineup, Duriel. This was also the first inkling 
>> of the disaster that was to come. Wimpy old Duriel, the lesser we used to 
>> chuckle at, was continuously hitting TUS for 2/3 to 3/4 of his lifeball.
>
> Huh, that's odd.
>

Aye, most unusual. Especially considering there isn't all that much 
difference in my equipment from last ladder. Duress, Grief, Highlords and a 
rare elite shield, coupled with a inventory full of +res/life charms... the 
charms are my main focus ATM.

>> Much thought was embarked apon before faceing Izual. It was decided that, 
>> with the realms being as stable as they are (lmao), Hammerdin would be 
>> bought in to tele to Izzy, and then TUS would smite him down.... we'd 
>> clean up the minions later! Well, after Hammerdin died 4 times, i 
>> enlisted the aid of my 7 yo son to throw hammers and add concentration, 
>> while TUS smited and fanatacized(haha, work that one out!)  proceedings. 
>> Many deaths >> followed, much curseing (not lifetap worse luck) but we 
>> did get him..... lifetap refused to trigger _at all_ during the battle... 
>> many, many purples where consumed.
>
> In my experience, to get tap to trigger you're better off zealing, then 
> smite once it's triggered.
>

I've read this before. I suppose the quicker strikes would make LT trigger 
quicker, someything to consider before the next outing.

>> Now, i have no idea what my stacked resistances are
>
> Based on my math, your shield adds 116, 13 from anni, 14 from gc, 20 all 
> and > an extra 30 cold from armor, plus I assume 30 from Anya. That 
> makes...193, and 223 cold. If you were smiting with Salvation on, that's 
> another 110 or so. So, assuming you were fighting with Salv on, you had 
> res of 303/333. With -100 from hell penalty and -125 at least from 
> conviction(dunno if Meph has higher than lvl 20 conviction or not) that 
> puts your res at max, and I wouldn't think he would have hurt you that 
> much unless your life was really low. Although if you had fana on and not 
> salv, your res woulda been way in the red, which would explain the 1 hit 
> KOs.
>

Salv was running when drawing Meph out first, and then switched to fana. 
Corpse runs where not a option after he killed me, so _if_ they haven't 
fixed the res bug, that shouldn't of affected it either. As i said earlier, 
i think alot has to do with missing life/res charms.

>> Now, to sell the unid LC, or ID it? First run, much struggleing, much 
>> death, much anticipation ... Yep id it! Want to guess what it was?
>>
>> 10/10 Druid.
>
> LOL, will the joy never cease.
>

I'm hopeing that was the end of that particular joy ;)

>
>> Jay
>>
>
> 

"~misfit~" <misfit61nz@yahooligans.co.nz> wrote in message 
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> Somewhere on the interweb "Jam" typed:
>> And so it came to pass,

<snip>

>> 10/10 Druid.
>
> Ouch! It couldn't be any worse! You have my sympathies. Still, on the 
> bright side, the next one will be an 18/17 Pally torch.
>
> <sacrifices a chicken and draws pentagrams with it's blood, chanting all 
> the while.....>
>

Woot! Thanks for the errr, prayers :)

>> Ever seen a grown man weep over a game?
>> Not pretty!
>
> I bet. Got pics? LOL.
>

Yeah, but i got a knock on the door last time i posted similar!

> Better luck next time Jay.

Cheers Shaun!

> -- 
> TTFN
>
> Shaun.
> 

"Jake_Mysterio" <cretin@dodo.com.au> wrote in message 
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>
> "Jam" <Jaysam168@optusnetnospammingnow.com.au> wrote in message 
> news:470b3d8e$0$6690$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>> And so it came to pass,
<snip>
>
> Bad luck on the 10/10 Druid torch. Congratz on UT run. Good to see you 
> again. ;-)

I'm thinking someone will cough up a pgem for that torch, unless i can 
sucker someone into thinking it's a collectors item, then i might get 2!! 
;P

How've you been Jake?

> -- 
> Jake Mysterio - The Mysterious One of Nothingness.
> 

In article <470ca9aa$0$14405$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>,
Jam <Jaysam168@optusnetnospammingnow.com.au> wrote:


[10/10 Druid torch]

>I'm thinking someone will cough up a pgem for that torch, unless i can 
>sucker someone into thinking it's a collectors item, then i might get 2!! 
>;P

Actually, this is 'The Anti Druid Torch' and while you think you're joking 
about the 'collectors item' status of it, I've seen Torches like these 
trade for quite a bit more than a random 11-15/11-15 Torch of the same 
type would fetch. :)

So you might wanna try that route before selling it for 1 or 2 pgems. ;)

Regards, Patrick.

"Jam" <Jaysam168@optusnetnospammingnow.com.au> wrote in message 
news:470ca89a$0$22253$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

> Let's put pdiamonding the Guillaume's down to a brain fart ;)
> Countess dropped me a um today on a key run, the only RA jewel i've found 
> so far is a decent lld thing (i think) so i'll hell/um the helm before the 
> next run. Cheers!

Ahh handy.

> I've found that no merc i've had lasted more than 10 seconds in UT. Maybe 
> a Rogue with a faith bow would work, or one of the Iron Wolf mob, but i 
> can't really see the benefit of haveing one more life bulb to worry about 
> :)

My act 2 mercs do okay usually, they have problems around Meph, and if they 
get distracted by one of Baal's PI minions it usually kills em though(I 
don't bother worring about their life bulb, I just let em live as long as 
they can then so be it)

> Aye, most unusual. Especially considering there isn't all that much 
> difference in my equipment from last ladder. Duress, Grief, Highlords and 
> a rare elite shield, coupled with a inventory full of +res/life charms... 
> the charms are my main focus ATM.

Hmm, so no DR then either...and I assume you still have max block now, kinda 
weird.

> I've read this before. I suppose the quicker strikes would make LT trigger 
> quicker, someything to consider before the next outing.

Aye, it helps. Sure, your zeals may not hit the main baddie much, but you'll 
be hitting the minions around him plenty of times, which means many chances 
to trigger.

> Salv was running when drawing Meph out first,  and then switched to fana.

Switched to fana while fightning Meph or after he was dead? If while alive, 
then yeah, your res woulda been in the red pretty harshly, which would 
explain the 1 hit KOs.

> Corpse runs where not a option after he killed me, so _if_ they haven't 
> fixed the res bug, that shouldn't of affected it either. As i said 
> earlier, i think alot has to do with missing life/res charms.

Aye, more res charms are good, can fight meph with Fana on and still be 
maxed out.

"Jam" <Jaysam168@optusnetnospammingnow.com.au> wrote in message
news:470ca89a$0$22253$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

> Let's put pdiamonding the Guillaume's down to a brain fart ;)
> Countess dropped me a um today on a key run, the only RA jewel i've found
> so far is a decent lld thing (i think) so i'll hell/um the helm before the
> next run. Cheers!

Ahh handy.

> I've found that no merc i've had lasted more than 10 seconds in UT. Maybe
> a Rogue with a faith bow would work, or one of the Iron Wolf mob, but i
> can't really see the benefit of haveing one more life bulb to worry about
> :)

My act 2 mercs do okay usually, they have problems around Meph, and if they
get distracted by one of Baal's PI minions it usually kills em though(I
don't bother worring about their life bulb, I just let em live as long as
they can then so be it)

> Aye, most unusual. Especially considering there isn't all that much
> difference in my equipment from last ladder. Duress, Grief, Highlords and
> a rare elite shield, coupled with a inventory full of +res/life charms...
> the charms are my main focus ATM.

Hmm, so no DR then either...and I assume you still have max block now, kinda
weird.

> I've read this before. I suppose the quicker strikes would make LT trigger
> quicker, someything to consider before the next outing.

Aye, it helps. Sure, your zeals may not hit the main baddie much, but you'll
be hitting the minions around him plenty of times, which means many chances
to trigger.

> Salv was running when drawing Meph out first,  and then switched to fana.

Switched to fana while fightning Meph or after he was dead? If while alive,
then yeah, your res woulda been in the red pretty harshly, which would
explain the 1 hit KOs.

> Corpse runs where not a option after he killed me, so _if_ they haven't
> fixed the res bug, that shouldn't of affected it either. As i said
> earlier, i think alot has to do with missing life/res charms.

Aye, more res charms are good, can fight meph with Fana on and still be
maxed out.

In article <HK2Pi.1$Bg3.0@newsfe03.lga>, Shiflet <rshiflet@charter.net> wrote:
>
>"Jam" <Jaysam168@optusnetnospammingnow.com.au> wrote in message 
>news:470ca89a$0$22253$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

[Some snippage]

>> Corpse runs where not a option after he killed me, so _if_ they haven't 
>> fixed the res bug, that shouldn't of affected it either. As i said 
>> earlier, i think alot has to do with missing life/res charms.
>
>Aye, more res charms are good, can fight meph with Fana on and still be 
>maxed out.

If you have problems increasing your res with charms, do keep in mind the 
main elemental damage Uber-Mephisto throws out is lightning: so 
concentrate on increasing that before the rest.

Ciao,

Patrick.

Somewhere on the interweb "Jam" typed:
> "Shiflet" <rshiflet@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:C3IOi.89$or6.9@newsfe06.lga...
> > In my experience, to get tap to trigger you're better off zealing,
> > then smite once it's triggered.
> >
>
> I've read this before. I suppose the quicker strikes would make LT
> trigger quicker, someything to consider before the next outing.

Shiflet is bang-on with this one. After doing literally hundreds and 
hundreds of UT runs you tend to learn tricks like that.
-- 
TTFN

Shaun. 

"Patrick Vervoorn" <patrick.vervoorn@NOSPAM.perihelion.demon.nl> wrote in 
message news:bdc32$470cb7a8$82a1d3bf$27395@news1.tudelft.nl...
> In article <470ca9aa$0$14405$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>,
> Jam <Jaysam168@optusnetnospammingnow.com.au> wrote:
>
>
> [10/10 Druid torch]
>
>>I'm thinking someone will cough up a pgem for that torch, unless i can
>>sucker someone into thinking it's a collectors item, then i might get 2!!
>>;P
>
> Actually, this is 'The Anti Druid Torch' and while you think you're joking
> about the 'collectors item' status of it, I've seen Torches like these
> trade for quite a bit more than a random 11-15/11-15 Torch of the same
> type would fetch. :)
>
> So you might wanna try that route before selling it for 1 or 2 pgems. ;)
>

Interesting. I have seen 10/10/5 annis go for a little more than i'd expect 
(collectors status), but i wouldn't of thought the same thing with a doggy 
torch. At the moment i'm useing the torch for the +resists on TUS, but when 
my pally torch drops, i'm going to give that a try. Thanks Patrick.
> Regards, Patrick. 

"Patrick Vervoorn" <patrick.vervoorn@NOSPAM.perihelion.demon.nl> wrote in 
message news:fbb1$470cba71$82a1d3bf$27395@news1.tudelft.nl...
> In article <HK2Pi.1$Bg3.0@newsfe03.lga>, Shiflet <rshiflet@charter.net> 
> wrote:
>>
>>"Jam" <Jaysam168@optusnetnospammingnow.com.au> wrote in message
>>news:470ca89a$0$22253$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>
> [Some snippage]
>
>>> Corpse runs where not a option after he killed me, so _if_ they haven't
>>> fixed the res bug, that shouldn't of affected it either. As i said
>>> earlier, i think alot has to do with missing life/res charms.
>>
>>Aye, more res charms are good, can fight meph with Fana on and still be
>>maxed out.
>
> If you have problems increasing your res with charms, do keep in mind the
> main elemental damage Uber-Mephisto throws out is lightning: so
> concentrate on increasing that before the rest.
>

Aye, lightning damage.. I had some luck mfing last night and had a 5%fhr/11% 
LR sc fall, so that and other lightning res charms will make their way to 
the smiters inventory. I'm also considering tradeing for a SoE, i think (as 
Shiftlet said earlier in the thread) that he's really lacking damage 
reduction.... he has none at the moment :(

Jay

> Ciao,
>
> Patrick. 

In article <470d3f87$0$7087$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>,
Jam <Jaysam168@optusnetnospammingnow.com.au> wrote:

>Aye, lightning damage.. I had some luck mfing last night and had a 5%fhr/11% 
>LR sc fall, so that and other lightning res charms will make their way to 
>the smiters inventory. I'm also considering tradeing for a SoE, i think (as 
>Shiftlet said earlier in the thread) that he's really lacking damage 
>reduction.... he has none at the moment :(

No idea what you're planning to spend on this trade, but I personally find 
'Verdungo's Hearty Cord' a better belt for a Smiter.

I bought mine (quite mediocre, but still better than any SoE IMHO) for a 
handful of pgems (6 - 8 approximately).

Regards,

Patrick.

Somewhere on the interweb "Jam" typed:
> "Patrick Vervoorn" <patrick.vervoorn@NOSPAM.perihelion.demon.nl>
> wrote in message news:fbb1$470cba71$82a1d3bf$27395@news1.tudelft.nl...
> > In article <HK2Pi.1$Bg3.0@newsfe03.lga>, Shiflet
> > <rshiflet@charter.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > "Jam" <Jaysam168@optusnetnospammingnow.com.au> wrote in message
> > > news:470ca89a$0$22253$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> >
> > [Some snippage]
> >
> > > > Corpse runs where not a option after he killed me, so _if_ they
> > > > haven't fixed the res bug, that shouldn't of affected it
> > > > either. As i said earlier, i think alot has to do with missing
> > > > life/res charms.
> > >
> > > Aye, more res charms are good, can fight meph with Fana on and
> > > still be maxed out.
> >
> > If you have problems increasing your res with charms, do keep in
> > mind the main elemental damage Uber-Mephisto throws out is
> > lightning: so concentrate on increasing that before the rest.
> >
>
> Aye, lightning damage.. I had some luck mfing last night and had a
> 5%fhr/11% LR sc fall, so that and other lightning res charms will
> make their way to the smiters inventory. I'm also considering
> tradeing for a SoE, i think (as Shiftlet said earlier in the thread)
> that he's really lacking damage reduction.... he has none at the
> moment :(

As most of the damage he'll be taking from U Meph is elemental, particulary 
lightning, and you said that the other U brothers were comparatively easy I 
would have thought a T'gods might have been better. (It's what my 
Freezealot's wearing right now as it's the only decent belt I've found):

Thundergod's Vigor
War Belt

Defense: 137-159 (varies)(Base Defense: 41-52)
Required Level: 47
Required Strength: 110
Durability: 24
16 Boxes
+160-200% Enhanced Defense (varies)
Adds 1-50 Lightning Damage
5% Chance To Cast Level 7 Fist Of The Heavens When Struck
+20 Lightning Absorb
10% To Maximum Lightning Resist
+20 To Strength
+20 To Vitality
+3 To Lightning Fury (Amazon Only)
+3 To Lightning Strike (Amazon Only)

Normally I equip my Freezers with Vedungo's. This'll do until I find (a 
good) one. Strikes me as a good UT runners belt.

Cheers,
-- 
Shaun. 

"Jam" <Jaysam168@optusnetnospammingnow.com.au> wrote in message 
news:470d3f87$0$7087$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

> Aye, lightning damage.. I had some luck mfing last night and had a 
> 5%fhr/11% LR sc fall, so that and other lightning res charms will make 
> their way to the smiters inventory. I'm also considering tradeing for a 
> SoE, i think (as Shiftlet said earlier in the thread) that he's really 
> lacking damage reduction.... he has none at the moment :(

Most damage in UT is ele, not physical. The DR would help with Duriel(and in 
that regards I'd rather trade for Verdungos), but for Trist I'd rather have 
TGods.

> Jay
>
>> Ciao,
>>
>> Patrick.
>
> 

"Patrick Vervoorn" <patrick.vervoorn@NOSPAM.perihelion.demon.nl> wrote in 
message news:6687b$470d499e$82a1d3bf$24053@news2.tudelft.nl...
> I bought mine (quite mediocre, but still better than any SoE IMHO) for a
> handful of pgems (6 - 8 approximately).

Wow, damn dude. On West NL, even the WORST possible Dungos is still worth an 
Um or so.

> Regards,
>
> Patrick. 

"Shiflet" <rshiflet@charter.net> wrote in message 
news:CFhPi.1711$zL7.1458@newsfe12.lga...
>
> "Patrick Vervoorn" <patrick.vervoorn@NOSPAM.perihelion.demon.nl> wrote in 
> message news:6687b$470d499e$82a1d3bf$24053@news2.tudelft.nl...
>> I bought mine (quite mediocre, but still better than any SoE IMHO) for a
>> handful of pgems (6 - 8 approximately).
>
> Wow, damn dude. On West NL, even the WORST possible Dungos is still worth 
> an Um or so.
>

What Shiftlet said.
That's some nice trade you got there Patrick, compared to uswscl prices.

>> Regards,
>>
>> Patrick.
>
> 

In article <470dcfb4$0$1031$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>,
Jam <Jaysam168@optusnetnospammingnow.com.au> wrote:
>
>"Shiflet" <rshiflet@charter.net> wrote in message 
>news:CFhPi.1711$zL7.1458@newsfe12.lga...
>>
>> "Patrick Vervoorn" <patrick.vervoorn@NOSPAM.perihelion.demon.nl> wrote in 
>> message news:6687b$470d499e$82a1d3bf$24053@news2.tudelft.nl...
>>> I bought mine (quite mediocre, but still better than any SoE IMHO) for a
>>> handful of pgems (6 - 8 approximately).
>>
>> Wow, damn dude. On West NL, even the WORST possible Dungos is still worth 
>> an Um or so.
>>
>
>What Shiftlet said.
>That's some nice trade you got there Patrick, compared to uswscl prices.

This was/is from a 'pgem-shop' on SC Europe Ladder, someone advertisting 
in the B.Net forum. I also bought an Arm of King Leoric there for 5 pgems. 
Various other equipment also for 3-6 pgems, max.

I rather like the 'atmosphere' in the new ladder, especially on SC Europe 
Ladder.

Regards,

Patrick.

"~misfit~" <misfit61nz@yahooligans.co.nz> wrote in message 
news:fejni9$mbq$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> Somewhere on the interweb "Jam" typed:
>> "Patrick Vervoorn" <patrick.vervoorn@NOSPAM.perihelion.demon.nl>
>> wrote in message news:fbb1$470cba71$82a1d3bf$27395@news1.tudelft.nl...
>> > In article <HK2Pi.1$Bg3.0@newsfe03.lga>, Shiflet
>> > <rshiflet@charter.net> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > "Jam" <Jaysam168@optusnetnospammingnow.com.au> wrote in message
>> > > news:470ca89a$0$22253$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>> >
>> > [Some snippage]
>> >
>> > > > <more snippage>

> Thundergod's Vigor
> War Belt
>
> Defense: 137-159 (varies)(Base Defense: 41-52)
> Required Level: 47
> Required Strength: 110
> Durability: 24
> 16 Boxes
> +160-200% Enhanced Defense (varies)
> Adds 1-50 Lightning Damage
> 5% Chance To Cast Level 7 Fist Of The Heavens When Struck
> +20 Lightning Absorb
> 10% To Maximum Lightning Resist
> +20 To Strength
> +20 To Vitality
> +3 To Lightning Fury (Amazon Only)
> +3 To Lightning Strike (Amazon Only)
>
> Normally I equip my Freezers with Vedungo's. This'll do until I find (a 
> good) one. Strikes me as a good UT runners belt.
>

Tgods would be nice, if i could get one to drop! Not a one yet, nor a SoE, i 
was actually commenting to the wife (bless her) that the drops seem worse 
this season, meaning they seem fewer and further between. About the only 
thing that still drops the same IME is keys, junk jewels and cracked sashs 
;)
Luckily, Tgods isn't that "in demand" i think, so if i use a SoE against 
duriel (and Izzy?) and then swap it out for a Tgods against uberMeph, that 
should go some way to keeping the smiter alive... well, here's hopeing 
anyway.
> Cheers,
> -- 
> Shaun.
> 

"Patrick Vervoorn" <patrick.vervoorn@NOSPAM.perihelion.demon.nl> wrote in 
message news:73bca$470dd160$82a1d3bf$21445@news1.tudelft.nl...
> In article <470dcfb4$0$1031$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>,
> Jam <Jaysam168@optusnetnospammingnow.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>"Shiflet" <rshiflet@charter.net> wrote in message
>>news:CFhPi.1711$zL7.1458@newsfe12.lga...
>>>
>>> "Patrick Vervoorn" <patrick.vervoorn@NOSPAM.perihelion.demon.nl> wrote 
>>> in
>>> message news:6687b$470d499e$82a1d3bf$24053@news2.tudelft.nl...
>>>> I bought mine (quite mediocre, but still better than any SoE IMHO) for 
>>>> a
>>>> handful of pgems (6 - 8 approximately).
>>>
>>> Wow, damn dude. On West NL, even the WORST possible Dungos is still 
>>> worth
>>> an Um or so.
>>>
>>
>>What Shiftlet said.
>>That's some nice trade you got there Patrick, compared to uswscl prices.
>
> This was/is from a 'pgem-shop' on SC Europe Ladder, someone advertisting
> in the B.Net forum. I also bought an Arm of King Leoric there for 5 pgems.
> Various other equipment also for 3-6 pgems, max.
>
> I rather like the 'atmosphere' in the new ladder, especially on SC Europe
> Ladder.
>

I'm likeing the scarcity of HRs myself. I'm expecting this to change within 
the next 4-6 weeks though :\
Gems at the moment on uswscl are valued at pul per 40, standard, 
non-dupefest price. I'm holding onto mine for now, waiting until i get a 
char to 93 for crafting purposes, and waiting until the inevitable rune dump 
for tradeing off the rest.
Unfortunantly, the player attitudes haven't changed much this season, thus 
why i mostly play private/passworded games. And lets not talk about tradeing 
ingame, this is a public forum ;)

Cheers

Jay
> Regards,
>
> Patrick.