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In article <scottaD1...@netcom.com>, sco...@netcom.com (Scott Adams) wrote:

>  Here are a couple more ideas for Descent: 
>      1.  Decoys

   Interesting idea.  I certainly wouldn't object to this, but don't
regard it as necessary.

>      2.  Motion Detector

   THIS is darned near essential.  Many's the time I've been hit from some
odd angle and lost a lot of shield points spinning and twisting around in
a vain search for my tormentor.  Even an indication of which direction
hits are coming from (front/back/right/left/up/down) would be a big help.

   Another wish--a visual indication that a homing missle has lock.  I'm
assuming that there's an audible tone or something, but again, those
without sound can't take advantage of this.  Turning the crosshairs red or
blue or some other color to indicate lock, or turning the current
missle-circle into a red square, or ANYTHING, would be just fine.
   I was going to ask that shield/power/weapon displays be available in
full-screen mode, but I notice that it's being worked on.
   I'd like to add a couple of suggestions for control keys--not essential
ones by any means, but helpful.
     1. Right/Left/Up/(Down) views.  The back view is very nice, but why
can't we look in more directions?  I put (Down) in parentheses because
it's potentially forbidden by the fighter's design.  The other views
aren't, though.
     2. Weapon cycle keys.  Instead of having to go to the number keys to
switch weapons, it would be nice to be able to define cycle-keys, similar
to those found in "Marathon" (a new Mac Doom-type game), so that you can
switch weapons quickly in combat situations.

                                   -EMeyer

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In <eam3-03019...@lit35334.lit.cwru.edu> ea...@po.cwru.edu 
(EMeyer) writes: 

> Another wish--a visual indication that a homing missle has lock.  I'm
>assuming that there's an audible tone or something, but again, those
>without sound can't take advantage of this. Turning the crosshairs red 
or
>blue or some other color to indicate lock, or turning the current
>missle-circle into a red square, or ANYTHING, would be just fine.

Hey, you gotta get sound man. When a tracking missle is fired at you, 
you hear a Beep-Beep, and as it gets closer to you the thing beeps more 
frequently. The only way to lose it is to run until you either hear it 
explode or you don't hear the tracking beep for 10 seconds or more.

This is a way-cool idea. It's too bad you don't have sound...

- Jim :)
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In article <eam3-03019...@lit35334.lit.cwru.edu>,
EMeyer <ea...@po.cwru.edu> wrote:
>In article <scottaD1...@netcom.com>, sco...@netcom.com (Scott Adams) wrote:
>>      2.  Motion Detector
>
>   THIS is darned near essential.  Many's the time I've been hit from some
>odd angle and lost a lot of shield points spinning and twisting around in
>a vain search for my tormentor.  Even an indication of which direction
>hits are coming from (front/back/right/left/up/down) would be a big help.
I think the best idea would be a 360 degree radar-style screen in the
style of Wing Commander.  If the idea of a radar would be too much of
an advantage, the same type of screen could be used to register hits,
at least.

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In article <3echpo$g...@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com>, SYM...@ix.netcom.com (Jim
Lowell) wrote:

>> Another wish--a visual indication that a homing missle has lock.
> 
> Hey, you gotta get sound man. When a tracking missle is fired at you, 
> you hear a Beep-Beep, and as it gets closer to you the thing beeps more 
> frequently

   Sorry--I didn't make myself clear.  What I meant was that I'd like an
indication that one of my homing missles has a lock on an enemy target. 
Whether there is an audible cue for this, there should be a visual cue,
just like the "LOCK" indicator on the panel when an enemy missle has
acquired you.

>It's too bad you don't have sound...

   I hate the idea of spending MORE money to get what should have been a
basic hardware feature to begin with.

                                   -EMeyer

Unstable condition--a symptom of life     |Eric A. Meyer (ea...@po.cwru.edu)
In mental and environmental change        |Library Information Technologies
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Scott Adams (sco...@netcom.com) wrote:
: 	Here are a couple more ideas for Descent:

: 	1.  Decoys
: 	I think it would be awesome if you could drop decoys that resembled
:   your ship and thus could draw fire away from you, tricking robots and
  
     This may be possible on our own when we figure out how to sub in 
graphics... I would be easy... just substitute the floating mind animate 
bitmapss with animated bitmaps of your ship hovering... pretty cool idea 
hunh!

					Eric

In <eam3-04019...@lit35334.lit.cwru.edu> ea...@po.cwru.edu 
(EMeyer) writes: 

>
>In article <3echpo$g...@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com>, SYM...@ix.netcom.com 
(Jim
>Lowell) wrote:
>
>>> Another wish--a visual indication that a homing missle has lock.
>> 
>> Hey, you gotta get sound man. When a tracking missle is fired at you, 
>> you hear a Beep-Beep, and as it gets closer to you the thing beeps 
more 
>> frequently
>
>   Sorry--I didn't make myself clear.  What I meant was that I'd like 
an
>indication that one of my homing missles has a lock on an enemy target. 
>Whether there is an audible cue for this, there should be a visual cue,
>just like the "LOCK" indicator on the panel when an enemy missle has
>acquired you.
>
>>It's too bad you don't have sound...
>
>   I hate the idea of spending MORE money to get what should have been 
a
>basic hardware feature to begin with.
>
>                                   -EMeyer
>
>Unstable condition--a symptom of life     |Eric A. Meyer 
(ea...@po.cwru.edu)
>In mental and environmental change        |Library Information 
Technologies
>Atmospheric disturbance--the feverish flux|  Software Support 
Technician
>Of human interface and interchange- (N.P.)|"What do you think, sirs?" 
-Joel
>

Yeah, you're right. It would be nice to know that when you fire a homing 
missle that it's going to hit something. I never thought of that (big 
surprise).

As for the sound, it looks like the PC industry is starting to wake up 
to the fact that we all want sound. More and more PC's are coming 
standard with sound these days.

- Jim
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Scott Adams (sco...@netcom.com) wrote:
: 	Here are a couple more ideas for Descent:

<decoys snipped>
: 	2.  Motion Detector
: 	This could add a very interesting element to Descent play.  Your
:   ship would be equipped with motion detector, similar in appearance to
:   the radar scope in the Wing Commander series.  Thus, you could fly into
:   a room and determine the number of enemies in there - provided they were
:   moving.  This would open the door for stationary robots, and hiding 
:   the current robots in locations where they wouldn't be triggered until
:   it was too late for the player to react.  In Anarchy, moving around would
:   be riskier, since you might alert the enemy to your presence.   Even in
:   all-out combat, it would useful to have an idea of where they guy who's
:   blasting you is located.  

: 	Any opinions/thoughts/additions?
 I would rather not having a modion detector.. would make things too 
easy. But what we need is a hit indicator. Probly one of the easiest to 
implement would be to modify the shield image. If it was segmented to 
show front/left/right/rear then you could flash one of those segments to 
tell you where you have been hit. 

: 				-Scott A.

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: If so, I guess he never met Rush Limbaugh...

(I thought Rush got "great" by eating too much :-) )

ea...@po.cwru.edu (EMeyer) writes:

>   Sorry--I didn't make myself clear.  What I meant was that I'd like an
>indication that one of my homing missles has a lock on an enemy target. 
>Whether there is an audible cue for this, there should be a visual cue,
>just like the "LOCK" indicator on the panel when an enemy missle has
>acquired you.

The visual LOCK indicator is for you when you shoot a homing missile.
I suppose the message "Incoming Missile" should make that distinction.

>>It's too bad you don't have sound...
>   I hate the idea of spending MORE money to get what should have been a
>basic hardware feature to begin with.

Welcome to the wonderful world of PCs.  If you have an Amiga, your problem
is solved with sound, but you'll have to get an accelerator to get anything
as complex as Descent to work.  Which reminds me, Parallax/Interplay should
port this game to the Amiga. :)

>                                   -EMeyer

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