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Article #66205Re: games: fun vs winning (was Re: online apps)
From: Eep²
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 08:12
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 08:12
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You know what I mean...it's Kent who doesn't (or didn't) understand this. Alex Sramek wrote: > Eep² wrote: > > > Fun hardly requires winning; Maxis built an entire industry (the sim) based on non-winning games. > > I wouldn't say the sim games are non-winning. They just don't have > end-game wins. They are games of smaller, incremental wins. Reach > 10,000 population and get a statue, that's a win. Build your first > arco, that's a win. Destroy your town with aliens or monsters, that's > (strangely enough) a win. Just because you don't say "I won! I beat > the game!", doesn't mean you haven't won in some respect. > > > Kent Dahl wrote: > > > >>redsniper7000 wrote: > >> > >>>Eep² wrote in message <3D5D08CD...@tnlc.com>... > >>> > >>>>Then there's Active Worlds (http://activeworlds.com/ ) and other VR > >>>> > >>>(virtual reality) programs which are trying to become multi-user level > >>>editors (and Active Worlds is the closest but still has a LONG way to go) > >>>that allow games (of which AW has basic board games) and other interaction > >>>(building, chatting, "sight-seeing", etc). That's the future of online > >>>gaming... > >>> > >>><reply> > >>> > >>>Not it's not. A game has to be FUN. > >>> > >>Or as Marcy so well put it in http://www.pvponline.com/ somewhere... > >> "For it to be a game, someone has to win." > >>(or something like that, too lazy to dig out the strip in question) > >> > >>Fun is just too subjective a criteria.
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Path: mbox-mo1.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!wn1feed!wn2feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!sccrnsc03.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3D5E0572.F264AC72@tnlc.com> From: Eep² <eepN...@tnlc.com> Organization: Remove "NOSPAM" to email. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,comp.games.development.design,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games,sci.virtual-worlds.apps Subject: Re: games: fun vs winning (was Re: online apps) References: <c893cfe3.0208151814.55c99e39@posting.google.com> <9y279.9212$zX3.13591@news.indigo.ie> <3D5D08CD.7F868C08@tnlc.com> <Ch879.5980$%R5.1592803@news20.bellglobal.com> <3D5D38BD.AD02F604@stud.ntnu.no> <3D5DDA94.16E0CE02@tnlc.com> <3D5DF001.1060500@csulb.edu> Lines: 39 NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.234.168.90 X-Complaints-To: ab...@attbi.com X-Trace: sccrnsc03 1029571974 12.234.168.90 (Sat, 17 Aug 2002 08:12:54 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 08:12:54 GMT Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 08:12:54 GMT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit