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Re: Shogun 2 thoughts - and poorly equipped siege help

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From: Angus
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 09:12
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In article <4da2b827$0$38260$3b214f66@tunews.univie.ac.at>, 
devnull@otech7.tuwien.ac.at says...
> 
> In article <MPG.280ba8ca4abd38b89897df@news.demon.co.uk>, 
> Angus wrote:
> 
> >rectangular icon when you try to send your men to a gate which I thought 
> >meant capture it but apparently not. Do you just have to scale the 
> >walls, and then hold gate's area until it becomes yours? This was what I 
> >did, but casualties were heavy and there's a lot of writing to the next 
> >of kin that I would sooner have avoided. 
> 
> Yes, scale the walls and hold this area to open the gate, you will almost 
> always suffer heavy casualities if you try. Another option is to burn down the 
> gate, try to distract the enemy at another side before you do. Once the 
> gatehouse is in flames, pull back and wait for it to burn down. I would 
> recommend to just scale the walls to get inside, dont bother with opening the 
> door. Dismounting your general and getting him inside too might help morale.

Unless he gets killed, as happeneed in an earlier attempt.  :)

Thanks for your thoughts. I tried burning down a gate yesterday, it 
didn't seem to do me a huge amount of good, I eventually captured the 
stronghold, but again with depressingly high casualties.

I'm sure I've got lots to learn with the game, but in Rome and Medieval 
II I prided myself on keeping casualties to a minimum. Maybe Shogun II 
accurately reflects the times, but it seems a bit like wholesale 
slaughter. 

I still haven't worked out when you hold the pointer near a gate what 
that rectangular (rhomboid) icon means. You can get the flame icon as 
well, and the ladder one, which are pretty obvious, but...? 


> 
> Pathing issues during siege battles really drive me nuts so I try to avoid 
> them as much as I can. I usually siege them and wait for them to sally out, I 
> am much better in the open field :-)


You and me both! I hadn't thought of that, I'll give it a go - thanks.


> 
> >I'm a little unsure of the game, its clearly very good and ambitious, 
> >I'll have to see, its still early days.
> 
> Still bugs already seen in Empire TW before plus some new ones, unfortunatley.
> 

And at the early stage of the game that I'm at, all the strongholds, and 
their surroundings have appeared pretty much identical.  :-/
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