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Well met Sean

 The Codex of Ultimate Wisdom caught Sean Dees writing:
:    It's not easy. I just finished it last month. One hint is to pick of the
: Specter Snare. Don't go into the room with Mangar, don't go into the door
: in front of it. Circle around until you are above Mangar and you will come
: to a magic mouth. It will ask a question (easy answer - e-mail me if you
: have trouble). And will give you a weapon. This weapon stones whoever it

hmm.. ok, I'll try that :)

: hits. Use DEST on Mangar, DMST on the Demons, and just keep at it. It took

I did, to no avail :(

: me forever to get through, but once I did it once, it worked easier the
: next time. (Oh, and cast GRSU to get a Greater Demon or Demon Lord in your
: party - it helps.)

my summoned Demon Lord gets stoned by Mangar's Demon Lords! :(

:    Good Luck!

thanks, will try to get the weapon tonight :)

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Sir Launcelot du Lake <swk...@leonis.nus.sg> wrote:
>
> The Codex of Ultimate Wisdom caught Sean Dees writing:
>:    It's not easy. I just finished it last month. One hint is to pick of the
>: Specter Snare. Don't go into the room with Mangar, don't go into the door
>: in front of it. Circle around until you are above Mangar and you will come
>: to a magic mouth. It will ask a question (easy answer - e-mail me if you
>: have trouble). And will give you a weapon. This weapon stones whoever it

Hee hee...great weapon, hey, Sean? =) =)

Sir Launcelot du Lake says:

>hmm.. ok, I'll try that :)

Sean also suggested:

>: hits. Use DEST on Mangar, DMST on the Demons, and just keep at it. It took

>I did, to no avail :(

Hm. You don't mention what level your characters are, but I imagine that if
you're having as much trouble with spells being repelled as you apparently
are, then you may need to ramp up your characters some more before trying
to take on Mangar. 

Here's my strategy, from a veteran BT player:

Get Thor in your party as the special member. If you don't know where
he is, go to the passageway where two sleeping red dragons awaken and
attack you. One square north of that spot, there is a secret door on the left
side. Go through it and you'll be confronted by a magic mouth. Answer it
and you'll be given a Thor figurine. Activate it and Thor will enter your
party. Thor always attacks before ANYONE else, including the enemy monsters,
and always critically hits whatever he attacks. 

1) Thor will take care of one Demon Lord; use your highest dex character
(my monk works best) to attack the other one. 

2) Use your other two fighters to attack the two Vampire Lords. 

3) Equip your bard with a Flame Horn and use that on the Vampire Lords as
well. 

4) Use DEST on Mangar. 

5) Use DEST on the one remaining Demon Lord; if your highest dex character
doesn't kill him, this will. 

That should take care of the first round of combat. And most of the monsters.
Usually after one round the entire combat is over (unless Mangar managed
to summon something else before I killed him).  

Hope this helps!

Cheers,
-- 
Phil Carter -- car...@phoenix.cs.uga.edu                  
"Physical strength is no substitute for perception; for perception is the key
 which unlocks the intangible power of the spirit. You perceive nothing."
-- Ryaaken

car...@phoenix.cs.uga.edu (Phillip Carter) writes:

>Hm. You don't mention what level your characters are, but I imagine that if
>you're having as much trouble with spells being repelled as you apparently
>are, then you may need to ramp up your characters some more before trying
>to take on Mangar. 

One way to up your experience is to get two magic users that can cast
mind blade (if I recall correctly).  It will hit all groups.  Then go to
the room in the castle with the 4 groups of 99 beserkers, and cast the spell
at them.  If your dex is high enough, you'll hit them before they can hit
you.  After you've killed them off, teleport down two levels, then back up
and do it again.  It helps to read a book while doing this, since it takes
a long time.  But you get a LOT of experience.

-Jim (who went into BTII with 43rd level characters)

P.S. Another nice thing is that selling a magic item and buying it back
will recharge it (provided it hasn't broken).  Nice to keep that flame horn
working.

Well met Phillip

 The Codex of Ultimate Wisdom caught Phillip Carter writing:
: Hm. You don't mention what level your characters are, but I imagine that if
: you're having as much trouble with spells being repelled as you apparently
: are, then you may need to ramp up your characters some more before trying
: to take on Mangar. 

the non-mages are all level 37... aye, I cheated and hacked their xps to 
5 million :-}  I figure that's why my party always runs successfully away 
from all encounters prior to the one with Mangar  (I think if they choose 
to run from that, they would have been successful too :-))

: Here's my strategy, from a veteran BT player:
: Get Thor in your party as the special member. If you don't know where
: he is, go to the passageway where two sleeping red dragons awaken and
: attack you. One square north of that spot, there is a secret door on the left
: side. Go through it and you'll be confronted by a magic mouth. Answer it
: and you'll be given a Thor figurine. Activate it and Thor will enter your
: party. Thor always attacks before ANYONE else, including the enemy monsters,
: and always critically hits whatever he attacks. 

interesting.... never thought they'd give a Thor figurine...  I guess my 
party's slots were full

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