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Nostromo wrote:
> Thus spake Rick Cortese <rico...@earthlink.net>, Sat, 11 Jul 2009 10:08:22
> -0700, Anno Domini:
> 
>> And what would it take to get you !cynical? Being there myself I see my 
>> continued participation in MMPOG's as residual obsessive compulsive 
>> behavior rather then something I enjoy. Can't think of the last time I 
>> was like giddy happy laughing or couldn't wait until the next time I 
>> logged in.
> 
> What would get me 'cynical'? Mmos like Aion obviously. Or did you mean _not_
> cynical? LOTRO for one - still playing it with much enthusiasm, CoX will

'! is the NOT operator in C, too arcane a ref.

> 
>> After reading your comments I started asking myself 'what perk would it 
>> take to get me to even d/l a free to play game?' and all I could come up 
>> with was breakfast for two at Denny's. Sheesh! I would try online 
>> tic-tac-toe for a free Grand Slam right now and feel like I was getting 
>> a great deal. Oh yeah, that's right, the game is supposed to be the 
>> attraction on its own.
> 
> You would think so. Not sure what your point is, other than you're even more
> cynical & jaded than me perhaps...? I never suggested I wanted some sort of
> reward or pot of gold outside the games themselves, other than some quality
> time wasted. A mmo that made me *think*, rather than just Google
> walkthroughs & wiki guides would make a nice change, which LOTRO did/does a
> bit of with some quests. The only thing I'm even mildly excited about on the
> horizon are GW2, STO & maybe SW:TOR (but the last has to get past the
> Bioware 'consolitis' factor which I doubt it will).  I just signed up for
> the APB closed beta, but don't ask me why, heh (my mate did it, so call me a
> silly sheep I guess :).
> 

Yeap, probably more cynical then you at the moment. I mean I was 
optimistic "They are going to have to remove this smile from my face 
when I die with a chisel" kind of happy as we were progressing. Going 
way back to bbs door games <and forgetting MUDs>: There were games 
online that you played against human opponents but you were usually not 
there at the same time. Then came games where the only thing important 
was who got the BFG 9000 first. Diablo came along and had a party system 
that allowed for cooperative play and even a chat room. Then came the 
MMPOG circa 1997 which wasn't perfect but a quantum leap forward that 
showed promise. Now a dozen years later and it seems like most of the 
progress has been in 'discovering things to hook people with OCD.' I'd 
like to see them start having meetings where the developers actually try 
to put some fun in the games. If I want to make a 1,000 mouse clicks w/o 
having fun, I don't even need to have my computer on let alone buy a 
game and pay subscription fees.

Heck, I guess I am a minority customer anyway. Ten million people 
playing WoW pretty much tells the whole story. It is a good game but I 
can't say I ever laughed or giggled while I was playing it or couldn't 
wait to login the next time because I was missing the fun. Always the 
same story, got to level, got to get my next level spells, ...

Rick