🚀 go-pugleaf

Rick Cortese wrote:
> Nostromo wrote:
>> Thus spake Rick Cortese <rico...@earthlink.net>, Sat, 11 Jul 2009 
>> 10:08:22
>> -0700, Anno Domini:
>>
>>> And what would it take to get you !cynical? Being there myself I see 
>>> my continued participation in MMPOG's as residual obsessive 
>>> compulsive behavior rather then something I enjoy. Can't think of the 
>>> last time I was like giddy happy laughing or couldn't wait until the 
>>> next time I logged in.
>>
>> What would get me 'cynical'? Mmos like Aion obviously. Or did you mean 
>> _not_
>> cynical? LOTRO for one - still playing it with much enthusiasm, CoX will
> 
> '! is the NOT operator in C, too arcane a ref.
> 
>>
>>> After reading your comments I started asking myself 'what perk would 
>>> it take to get me to even d/l a free to play game?' and all I could 
>>> come up with was breakfast for two at Denny's. Sheesh! I would try 
>>> online tic-tac-toe for a free Grand Slam right now and feel like I 
>>> was getting a great deal. Oh yeah, that's right, the game is supposed 
>>> to be the attraction on its own.
>>
>> You would think so. Not sure what your point is, other than you're 
>> even more
>> cynical & jaded than me perhaps...? I never suggested I wanted some 
>> sort of
>> reward or pot of gold outside the games themselves, other than some 
>> quality
>> time wasted. A mmo that made me *think*, rather than just Google
>> walkthroughs & wiki guides would make a nice change, which LOTRO 
>> did/does a
>> bit of with some quests. The only thing I'm even mildly excited about 
>> on the
>> horizon are GW2, STO & maybe SW:TOR (but the last has to get past the
>> Bioware 'consolitis' factor which I doubt it will).  I just signed up for
>> the APB closed beta, but don't ask me why, heh (my mate did it, so 
>> call me a
>> silly sheep I guess :).
>>
> 
> Yeap, probably more cynical then you at the moment. I mean I was 
> optimistic "They are going to have to remove this smile from my face 
> when I die with a chisel" kind of happy as we were progressing. Going 
> way back to bbs door games <and forgetting MUDs>: There were games 
> online that you played against human opponents but you were usually not 
> there at the same time. Then came games where the only thing important 
> was who got the BFG 9000 first. Diablo came along and had a party system 
> that allowed for cooperative play and even a chat room. Then came the 
> MMPOG circa 1997 which wasn't perfect but a quantum leap forward that 
> showed promise. Now a dozen years later and it seems like most of the 
> progress has been in 'discovering things to hook people with OCD.' I'd 
> like to see them start having meetings where the developers actually try 
> to put some fun in the games. If I want to make a 1,000 mouse clicks w/o 
> having fun, I don't even need to have my computer on let alone buy a 
> game and pay subscription fees.
> 
> Heck, I guess I am a minority customer anyway. Ten million people 
> playing WoW pretty much tells the whole story. It is a good game but I 
> can't say I ever laughed or giggled while I was playing it or couldn't 
> wait to login the next time because I was missing the fun. Always the 
> same story, got to level, got to get my next level spells, ...

I can sort of agree with your OCD comments, it does ring a mild bell for 
me as well.

But I also have had those moments you speak off, i.e. giggles and 
laughs. Hell even giddy giggles! But they are related to PvP as no PvE 
encounter can ever make you giddy as such (unless perhaps you kill 
something and get an amazing piece of loot :p).

For instance a giddy moment for me in WoW, my level 70 Warrior gets on 
the tram at Ironforge to Stormwind. Lo and behold there is a horde 70 
warrior and 70 hunter ganking people.

Epic fight ensures, cut to black, fade in, two dead horde with me 
standing over their corpses giddy with adrenaline and with a serious 
case of the giggles sitting on 50 life madly taking screen shots in 
front of their corpses :D

hehehe

Ah memories :p

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Ceo-