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pedro rada <rose...@wfubmc.edu> wrote in 
news:av6s7v83k70m04...@4ax.com:

> There is a point in this game when one needs to immobilize a guard in
> order to move forward (on Raleigh's Walk).  I am unable to see the
> guard.  This is a known bug 

You can try and hit him anyway.  You can still see the lamp, right?  The 
target is straight down from the lamp.  You can try the update video card 
drivers, or reducing video optimization too.  You can also try the old 
standby of rebooting.  I had the problem come and go.

Robert Norton wrote:
> pedro rada <rose...@wfubmc.edu> wrote in 
> news:av6s7v83k70m04...@4ax.com:
> 
> 
>>There is a point in this game when one needs to immobilize a guard in
>>order to move forward (on Raleigh's Walk).  I am unable to see the
>>guard.  This is a known bug 
> 
> 
> You can try and hit him anyway.  You can still see the lamp, right?  The 
> target is straight down from the lamp.  You can try the update video card 
> drivers, or reducing video optimization too.  You can also try the old 
> standby of rebooting.  I had the problem come and go.


If that doesn't work, I have an 80KB zip file of saves from Traitors
Gate that I could email you.

Thanks for the advice.  Only needed two shots.  



On Sun, 23 Mar 2003 23:03:05 -0000, Robert Norton <r...@execpc.com>
wrote:

>pedro rada <rose...@wfubmc.edu> wrote in 
>news:av6s7v83k70m04...@4ax.com:
>
>> There is a point in this game when one needs to immobilize a guard in
>> order to move forward (on Raleigh's Walk).  I am unable to see the
>> guard.  This is a known bug 
>
>You can try and hit him anyway.  You can still see the lamp, right?  The 
>target is straight down from the lamp.  You can try the update video card 
>drivers, or reducing video optimization too.  You can also try the old 
>standby of rebooting.  I had the problem come and go.

pedro rada <rose...@wfubmc.edu> wrote in
news:ufiv7v4euhf1aj...@4ax.com: 

> Thanks for the advice.  Only needed two shots.  

Glad that worked!

Robert Norton wrote:
> pedro rada <rose...@wfubmc.edu> wrote in
> news:ufiv7v4euhf1aj...@4ax.com:
>
>> Thanks for the advice.  Only needed two shots.
>
> Glad that worked!

I gave up with TG. I don't like games with timed sequences and (IIRC) that
one was just one long timed sequence! No ta, I play adventures for rest and
relaxation, not to have my reflexes tested!

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Amethyst wrote:
>  
> I gave up with TG. I don't like games with timed sequences and (IIRC) that
> one was just one long timed sequence! No ta, I play adventures for rest and
> relaxation, not to have my reflexes tested!
> 
> --?
> Cassandra

The game didn't test your reflexes so much as your patience.
It gave you plenty of time to spare - provided you knew
exactly what to do. But in order to know what to do you had
to repeatedly save, experiment, discover how to proceed,
load save, complete the proper procedure, save again,
rinse and repeat. This was the only way you could be
assured of not running out of time near the end and having
to replay the whole game if they wanted to complete it
successfully.
I remember reading a post in here from someone who had
completed almost the whole game - and done it without help
from a walkthorugh - but who ran out of time just before
the end of the game. Some reward for completing that
difficult thing on your own. :p

Jenny100 wrote:
> Amethyst wrote:
>>
>> I gave up with TG. I don't like games with timed sequences and (IIRC)
that
>> one was just one long timed sequence! No ta, I play adventures for rest
and
>> relaxation, not to have my reflexes tested!
>>
>> --�
>> Cassandra
>
> The game didn't test your reflexes so much as your patience.
> It gave you plenty of time to spare - provided you knew
> exactly what to do. But in order to know what to do you had
> to repeatedly save, experiment, discover how to proceed,
> load save, complete the proper procedure, save again,
> rinse and repeat. This was the only way you could be
> assured of not running out of time near the end and having
> to replay the whole game if they wanted to complete it
> successfully.
> I remember reading a post in here from someone who had
> completed almost the whole game - and done it without help
> from a walkthorugh - but who ran out of time just before
> the end of the game. Some reward for completing that
> difficult thing on your own. :p

I knew what I meant :oP It's not something I would hurry to play again. I
have ordered Syberia (on the recommendations of many here) and that should
keep me going for a while (if it has the same difficulty level as TLJ I
think I'll quite enjoy it). TLJ - despite its rather verbose cutscenes - is
well lodged in my top five and it's going to take a real good'un to dislodge
it.

Cass

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Amethyst wrote:
> 
> I knew what I meant :oP It's not something I would hurry to play again. 

I wouldn't either. Besides the timed business it was awfully slow.
Even if you skipped the animation sequences between clicks, the
game was made so they still had to load off the CD before they
could be skipped. Moving around was like walking through molasses.

> I have ordered Syberia (on the recommendations of many here) and that should
> keep me going for a while (if it has the same difficulty level as TLJ I
> think I'll quite enjoy it). TLJ - despite its rather verbose cutscenes - is
> well lodged in my top five and it's going to take a real good'un to dislodge
> it.

I think you'll enjoy it.

> Cass
> 
> --?
> Cassandra

Jenny100 <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message news:<3E8128C3...@nospam.com>...
> Amethyst wrote:
> > 
> > I knew what I meant :oP It's not something I would hurry to play again. 
> 
> I wouldn't either. Besides the timed business it was awfully slow.
> Even if you skipped the animation sequences between clicks, the
> game was made so they still had to load off the CD before they
> could be skipped. Moving around was like walking through molasses.
> 
> > I have ordered Syberia (on the recommendations of many here) and that should
> > keep me going for a while (if it has the same difficulty level as TLJ I
> > think I'll quite enjoy it). TLJ - despite its rather verbose cutscenes - is
> > well lodged in my top five and it's going to take a real good'un to dislodge
> > it.
> 
> I think you'll enjoy it.
> 
> > Cass
> > 
> > --?
> > Cassandra




I thought that Traitors Gate was an okay game.  The only time I really
had to save and explore then reload was in the sewers.  I got down
there, made a map, and then once I had the entire sewer mapped I
reloaded and went on with the game.  I would save before I walked
through a door or messed around with the cameras.... but I do that
with any game that you can die or get captured.
In fact, Traitors Gate 2 is coming out sometime in September (I
confirmed this with DreamCatcher in an e-mail).  I will make sure I
buy part two!!!


Steve

On Sunday, March 23, 2003 5:15:19 PM UTC-4, pedro rada wrote:
> There is a point in this game when one needs to immobilize a guard in
> order to move forward (on Raleigh's Walk).  I am unable to see the
> guard.  This is a known bug and according to the walkthrough at Just
> Adventure, the only way around this is to find someone with a savefile
> that completes the task.  
> 
> Does anyone have this to send me?  If so, please post to
> rosenqui@wfubmc.edu  Thanks, if you know of some other way around the
> problem, I'd be happy to hear this as well.

I'm playing TG now and I ran into this same problem, with not being able to see the soldier at Raleigh's Walk. Any advice as to how I can get beyond this without being able to see the soldier I'm suppose to shoot?