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On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 21:34:07 -0400, Tim O <n...@thanks.com> wrote:

>
>I just found out Ubi is doing a remastered version of Skyrim.
>
> I think it was mainly done as an update for the XBox1 and PS4, but
>they're also going to release it for the PC. The update is free to PC
>players if they have the Dragonborn (check), Dawnguard (check) and
>Hearthfire (blech) DLC.
>
>I never liked the happy homemaker and foundry aspects of Skyrim, but
>yep, I just bought Hearthfire for 5 bucks so I get the remastered
>Skyrim. With 300 hours in the original game, I'm not sure I can ever
>spend another minute playing it but still couldn't resist the deal!


A man after my own heart.


I'll probably do the same with the next Call of Duty game just so that
I can get the remastered version of Modern Warfare which I probably
will never play. I'm sure I'll install it and have a look. I'm equally
sure that I'll intend to play it. One day. Perhaps. Maybe.

I need to retire soon so that I can play all these games I keep
collecting. I actually can do that too, even though I am still
relatively young (heading for mid-fifties just a little bit too
fast!). I am finding it strangely difficult to take that step.

I'm sure I'll do it one day.Maybe. Possibly.
-- 
Rob

On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 21:34:07 -0400, Tim O <n...@thanks.com> wrote:

>
>I just found out Ubi is doing a remastered version of Skyrim.

Minor nitpick (but minor nitpicks are what Usenet is all about!)

It's Bethesda, not Ubisoft.

So no worries about using their UPlay software (which isn't as awful
as some make it out, although I'd rank it worst of the "big four"
digital clients (Steam, GOG, Origin, UPlay).

> I think it was mainly done as an update for the XBox1 and PS4, but
>they're also going to release it for the PC. The update is free to PC
>players if they have the Dragonborn (check), Dawnguard (check) and
>Hearthfire (blech) DLC.

They are updating the graphics, but indications are they still fall
short of what a well-modded PC Skyrim can achieve. Hopefully it won't
be as bad as the Doom 3 BFG edition, which actually made the game look
worse on a PC...

>I never liked the happy homemaker and foundry aspects of Skyrim, but
>yep, I just bought Hearthfire for 5 bucks so I get the remastered
>Skyrim. With 300 hours in the original game, I'm not sure I can ever
>spend another minute playing it but still couldn't resist the deal!

Hearthfire wasn't "blech", but it was sort of pointless. I really got
the feeling it was more of a tech-demo for the "house-building"
technology that would later feature more prominently in Fallout 4.
Plus, it was riding the coat-tails of Minecraft and other games where
you could build your own structures. It was sort of neat to build up
your own home, and I liked having a more centralized place to store
all my gear (the main game also let you buy your own homes, but they
tended to be small and you had to enter the cities first, which was an
extra annoying load-screen). 

On 9/22/2016 6:26 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 21:34:07 -0400, Tim O <n...@thanks.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> I just found out Ubi is doing a remastered version of Skyrim.
>
> Minor nitpick (but minor nitpicks are what Usenet is all about!)
>
> It's Bethesda, not Ubisoft.
>
> So no worries about using their UPlay software (which isn't as awful
> as some make it out, although I'd rank it worst of the "big four"
> digital clients (Steam, GOG, Origin, UPlay).
>
>> I think it was mainly done as an update for the XBox1 and PS4, but
>> they're also going to release it for the PC. The update is free to PC
>> players if they have the Dragonborn (check), Dawnguard (check) and
>> Hearthfire (blech) DLC.
>
> They are updating the graphics, but indications are they still fall
> short of what a well-modded PC Skyrim can achieve. Hopefully it won't
> be as bad as the Doom 3 BFG edition, which actually made the game look
> worse on a PC...
>
>> I never liked the happy homemaker and foundry aspects of Skyrim, but
>> yep, I just bought Hearthfire for 5 bucks so I get the remastered
>> Skyrim. With 300 hours in the original game, I'm not sure I can ever
>> spend another minute playing it but still couldn't resist the deal!
>
> Hearthfire wasn't "blech", but it was sort of pointless. I really got
> the feeling it was more of a tech-demo for the "house-building"
> technology that would later feature more prominently in Fallout 4.
> Plus, it was riding the coat-tails of Minecraft and other games where
> you could build your own structures. It was sort of neat to build up
> your own home, and I liked having a more centralized place to store
> all my gear (the main game also let you buy your own homes, but they
> tended to be small and you had to enter the cities first, which was an
> extra annoying load-screen).
>
Both Morrowind and Oblivion let the player build a stronghold or buy 
houses, respectively.


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On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 07:43:08 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
<dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:

>Both Morrowind and Oblivion let the player build a stronghold or buy 
>houses, respectively.

I am forever cursed with wanting to reinstall Skyrim and play it again
every time I read a thread or post about an Elder Scrolls game.

I bought a couple of houses in Skyrim and always had Lydia as a
companion. I seem to remember that she couldn't or wouldn't marry me
for some reason.

I was virtually gutted that my virtual woman spurned me. But I still
always kept her as a companion. She used to get lost quite a bit, but
she always came back to me.
-- 
Rob

On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 09:26:37 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson
<spallsh...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 21:34:07 -0400, Tim O <n...@thanks.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>I just found out Ubi is doing a remastered version of Skyrim.
>
>Minor nitpick (but minor nitpicks are what Usenet is all about!)
>
>It's Bethesda, not Ubisoft.
>
>So no worries about using their UPlay software (which isn't as awful
>as some make it out, although I'd rank it worst of the "big four"
>digital clients (Steam, GOG, Origin, UPlay).

Oh balls, thanks for the correction... The new Rocksmith is called
Remastered and that stuck in my head when I typed the company name. 
Early references to the updated Skyrim called it Remastered but it
appears they've changed it to Special Edition. 

>>I never liked the happy homemaker and foundry aspects of Skyrim, but
>>yep, I just bought Hearthfire for 5 bucks so I get the remastered
>>Skyrim. With 300 hours in the original game, I'm not sure I can ever
>>spend another minute playing it but still couldn't resist the deal!
>
>Hearthfire wasn't "blech", but it was sort of pointless. I really got
>the feeling it was more of a tech-demo for the "house-building"
>technology that would later feature more prominently in Fallout 4.
>Plus, it was riding the coat-tails of Minecraft and other games where
>you could build your own structures. It was sort of neat to build up
>your own home, and I liked having a more centralized place to store
>all my gear (the main game also let you buy your own homes, but they
>tended to be small and you had to enter the cities first, which was an
>extra annoying load-screen). 

None of the building/crafting stuff appeals to me, its especially
egregious when it feels tacked on to exploit a fad as you described.

On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 19:03:51 +0100, Mr Rob
<noemail...@jsjsaiiowppw.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 07:43:08 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
><dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
>
>>Both Morrowind and Oblivion let the player build a stronghold or buy 
>>houses, respectively.
>
>I am forever cursed with wanting to reinstall Skyrim and play it again
>every time I read a thread or post about an Elder Scrolls game.
>
>I bought a couple of houses in Skyrim and always had Lydia as a
>companion. I seem to remember that she couldn't or wouldn't marry me
>for some reason.
>
>I was virtually gutted that my virtual woman spurned me. But I still
>always kept her as a companion. She used to get lost quite a bit, but
>she always came back to me.

I was a horrible husband, pretty much using her as a trailer to haul
extra potions and armor before forgetting her somewhere in the wild
with the Wait command never to be seen again.

There was supposed to be a thing where they were sent back to your
original home when you chose a new follower but that didn't happen.
I'm hoping if/when I play Special Edition, I at least find her
skeleton with all my extra arrows and potions!

Dimensional Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> looked up from reading the
entrails of the porn spammer to utter  "The Augury is good, the signs
say:

>On 9/22/2016 6:26 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>> On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 21:34:07 -0400, Tim O <n...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I just found out Ubi is doing a remastered version of Skyrim.
>>
>> Minor nitpick (but minor nitpicks are what Usenet is all about!)
>>
>> It's Bethesda, not Ubisoft.
>>
>> So no worries about using their UPlay software (which isn't as awful
>> as some make it out, although I'd rank it worst of the "big four"
>> digital clients (Steam, GOG, Origin, UPlay).
>>
>>> I think it was mainly done as an update for the XBox1 and PS4, but
>>> they're also going to release it for the PC. The update is free to PC
>>> players if they have the Dragonborn (check), Dawnguard (check) and
>>> Hearthfire (blech) DLC.
>>
>> They are updating the graphics, but indications are they still fall
>> short of what a well-modded PC Skyrim can achieve. Hopefully it won't
>> be as bad as the Doom 3 BFG edition, which actually made the game look
>> worse on a PC...
>>
>>> I never liked the happy homemaker and foundry aspects of Skyrim, but
>>> yep, I just bought Hearthfire for 5 bucks so I get the remastered
>>> Skyrim. With 300 hours in the original game, I'm not sure I can ever
>>> spend another minute playing it but still couldn't resist the deal!
>>
>> Hearthfire wasn't "blech", but it was sort of pointless. I really got
>> the feeling it was more of a tech-demo for the "house-building"
>> technology that would later feature more prominently in Fallout 4.
>> Plus, it was riding the coat-tails of Minecraft and other games where
>> you could build your own structures. It was sort of neat to build up
>> your own home, and I liked having a more centralized place to store
>> all my gear (the main game also let you buy your own homes, but they
>> tended to be small and you had to enter the cities first, which was an
>> extra annoying load-screen).
>>
>Both Morrowind and Oblivion let the player build a stronghold or buy 
>houses, respectively.

Goes back even further;  Daggerfall let you own multiple houses and a
boat.

Xocyll
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On 9/22/2016 1:21 PM, Xocyll wrote:
> Dimensional Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> looked up from reading the
> entrails of the porn spammer to utter  "The Augury is good, the signs
> say:
>
>> On 9/22/2016 6:26 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>>> On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 21:34:07 -0400, Tim O <n...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I just found out Ubi is doing a remastered version of Skyrim.
>>>
>>> Minor nitpick (but minor nitpicks are what Usenet is all about!)
>>>
>>> It's Bethesda, not Ubisoft.
>>>
>>> So no worries about using their UPlay software (which isn't as awful
>>> as some make it out, although I'd rank it worst of the "big four"
>>> digital clients (Steam, GOG, Origin, UPlay).
>>>
>>>> I think it was mainly done as an update for the XBox1 and PS4, but
>>>> they're also going to release it for the PC. The update is free to PC
>>>> players if they have the Dragonborn (check), Dawnguard (check) and
>>>> Hearthfire (blech) DLC.
>>>
>>> They are updating the graphics, but indications are they still fall
>>> short of what a well-modded PC Skyrim can achieve. Hopefully it won't
>>> be as bad as the Doom 3 BFG edition, which actually made the game look
>>> worse on a PC...
>>>
>>>> I never liked the happy homemaker and foundry aspects of Skyrim, but
>>>> yep, I just bought Hearthfire for 5 bucks so I get the remastered
>>>> Skyrim. With 300 hours in the original game, I'm not sure I can ever
>>>> spend another minute playing it but still couldn't resist the deal!
>>>
>>> Hearthfire wasn't "blech", but it was sort of pointless. I really got
>>> the feeling it was more of a tech-demo for the "house-building"
>>> technology that would later feature more prominently in Fallout 4.
>>> Plus, it was riding the coat-tails of Minecraft and other games where
>>> you could build your own structures. It was sort of neat to build up
>>> your own home, and I liked having a more centralized place to store
>>> all my gear (the main game also let you buy your own homes, but they
>>> tended to be small and you had to enter the cities first, which was an
>>> extra annoying load-screen).
>>>
>> Both Morrowind and Oblivion let the player build a stronghold or buy
>> houses, respectively.
>
> Goes back even further;  Daggerfall let you own multiple houses and a
> boat.
>
Morrowind was my first Elder Scrolls.  I have Skyrim but haven't had 
time to install and start a game.


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On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 19:03:51 +0100, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, Mr
Rob wrote: 

>On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 07:43:08 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
><dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
>
>>Both Morrowind and Oblivion let the player build a stronghold or buy 
>>houses, respectively.
>
>I am forever cursed with wanting to reinstall Skyrim and play it again
>every time I read a thread or post about an Elder Scrolls game.
>
>I bought a couple of houses in Skyrim and always had Lydia as a
>companion. I seem to remember that she couldn't or wouldn't marry me
>for some reason.
>
>I was virtually gutted that my virtual woman spurned me. But I still
>always kept her as a companion. She used to get lost quite a bit, but
>she always came back to me.

Hmm. We all seem to like Lydia. I mainly stuck with her too.

There's a dissertation in that somewhere. ;^)

-- 
Zag

No one ever said on their deathbed, 'Gee, I wish I had
spent more time alone with my computer.' ~Dan(i) Bunten

On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 18:37:15 -0700, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Dimensional Traveler wrote: 

>On 9/22/2016 1:21 PM, Xocyll wrote:
>> Dimensional Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> looked up from reading the
>> entrails of the porn spammer to utter  "The Augury is good, the signs
>> say:
>>
>>> On 9/22/2016 6:26 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 21:34:07 -0400, Tim O <n...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I just found out Ubi is doing a remastered version of Skyrim.
>>>>
>>>> Minor nitpick (but minor nitpicks are what Usenet is all about!)
>>>>
>>>> It's Bethesda, not Ubisoft.
>>>>
>>>> So no worries about using their UPlay software (which isn't as awful
>>>> as some make it out, although I'd rank it worst of the "big four"
>>>> digital clients (Steam, GOG, Origin, UPlay).
>>>>
>>>>> I think it was mainly done as an update for the XBox1 and PS4, but
>>>>> they're also going to release it for the PC. The update is free to PC
>>>>> players if they have the Dragonborn (check), Dawnguard (check) and
>>>>> Hearthfire (blech) DLC.
>>>>
>>>> They are updating the graphics, but indications are they still fall
>>>> short of what a well-modded PC Skyrim can achieve. Hopefully it won't
>>>> be as bad as the Doom 3 BFG edition, which actually made the game look
>>>> worse on a PC...
>>>>
>>>>> I never liked the happy homemaker and foundry aspects of Skyrim, but
>>>>> yep, I just bought Hearthfire for 5 bucks so I get the remastered
>>>>> Skyrim. With 300 hours in the original game, I'm not sure I can ever
>>>>> spend another minute playing it but still couldn't resist the deal!
>>>>
>>>> Hearthfire wasn't "blech", but it was sort of pointless. I really got
>>>> the feeling it was more of a tech-demo for the "house-building"
>>>> technology that would later feature more prominently in Fallout 4.
>>>> Plus, it was riding the coat-tails of Minecraft and other games where
>>>> you could build your own structures. It was sort of neat to build up
>>>> your own home, and I liked having a more centralized place to store
>>>> all my gear (the main game also let you buy your own homes, but they
>>>> tended to be small and you had to enter the cities first, which was an
>>>> extra annoying load-screen).
>>>>
>>> Both Morrowind and Oblivion let the player build a stronghold or buy
>>> houses, respectively.
>>
>> Goes back even further;  Daggerfall let you own multiple houses and a
>> boat.
>>
>Morrowind was my first Elder Scrolls.  I have Skyrim but haven't had 
>time to install and start a game.

I've played Skyrim off and on, but the Fallout games really hold my
interest more than non-stop fantasy circle strafing. It also throws Ice
Trolls at you way too early, and they are hands down harder to fight than
even the dragons. All I've been able to do is run from them so far. As a
result, I've only got about 25 hrs. in Skyrim, though I keep it
installed, always meaning to come back to it, but usually finding
something more interesting to play. 

At this point, since I got my 1080 GTX, Nvidia has me running it in
3840x2160 DSR with maxed out settings. It makes the Steam interface
really tiny.

But I'm mostly doing a second run of Fallout 4 and playing DOOM. A few
short sessions of vanilla Endless Legend evens things out.

I should throw some mods at it. Any suggestions? Is Oscuro's Overhaul for
Skyrim any good? What else is good? What monsterous mods can I throw at a
single 1080 and still run at 60 fps in 1920x1080? I would be willing to
drop it to native 1920x1080 for the frame rate. DSR doesn't really grab
me; seems like a really taxing way of doing FSAA, and not really all that
well. It just makes all the edges fuzzy. Since I don't want or need 4k
gaming and I *do* want 60 frames, consider a 1080 driving a 1920x1080
60 Hz monitor.

(Yes, I can use Google, but I rely on your opinions more.)

-- 
Zag

No one ever said on their deathbed, 'Gee, I wish I had
spent more time alone with my computer.' ~Dan(i) Bunten

Am 22.09.16 um 03:34 schrieb Tim O:
>
> I just found out Ubi is doing a remastered version of Skyrim.
>
>  I think it was mainly done as an update for the XBox1 and PS4, but
> they're also going to release it for the PC. The update is free to PC
> players if they have the Dragonborn (check), Dawnguard (check) and
> Hearthfire (blech) DLC.
>
> I never liked the happy homemaker and foundry aspects of Skyrim, but
> yep, I just bought Hearthfire for 5 bucks so I get the remastered
> Skyrim. With 300 hours in the original game, I'm not sure I can ever
> spend another minute playing it but still couldn't resist the deal!
>
Question is if the remastered on the PC even makes sense, there is a 
load of high res texture mods out there which probably do the same job.

On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 21:34:07 -0400, Tim O <n...@thanks.com> wrote:

>
>I just found out Ubi is doing a remastered version of Skyrim.
>
> I think it was mainly done as an update for the XBox1 and PS4, but
>they're also going to release it for the PC. The update is free to PC
>players if they have the Dragonborn (check), Dawnguard (check) and
>Hearthfire (blech) DLC.
>
>I never liked the happy homemaker and foundry aspects of Skyrim, but
>yep, I just bought Hearthfire for 5 bucks so I get the remastered
>Skyrim. With 300 hours in the original game, I'm not sure I can ever
>spend another minute playing it but still couldn't resist the deal!

I say yeah.  
It's a great game.  Showing how it can be done.

Sometimes giving tips makes sense.

I dunno what "remastered" could mean in this digital age, except as a
repackaging.

That team had better produce a sequel, soon.  

On Fri, 23 Sep 2016 08:34:39 +0200, Werner Punz <we...@gmx.at> wrote:



>>
>Question is if the remastered on the PC even makes sense, there is a 
>load of high res texture mods out there which probably do the same job.

Well, barring them ballsing it up entirely, I think it will be useful
in setting a new "baseline" on which the mods can further improve.
User-created mods usually replace only a subset of the textures, and
even if you have multiple texture packs installed you will still
probably run into some default graphics. The "remaster" will up the
quality of the defaults somewhat, which you can then further improve
with mods.

It might also help by reducing the number of mods you need installed,
potentially improving stability (I basically stopped playing Skyrim
because - with all my mods installed - the game froze after 30-60
minutes of gameplay. Uninstalling some of the mods fixed the problem,
but then I had default textures again, and who wants that? ;-)

One thing for sure, this remaster will give the modders a whole new
list of things to improve ;-)

On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 21:07:45 -0500, Zaghadka <zagh...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>I've played Skyrim off and on, but the Fallout games really hold my
>interest more than non-stop fantasy circle strafing. It also throws Ice
>Trolls at you way too early, and they are hands down harder to fight than
>even the dragons. All I've been able to do is run from them so far. As a
>result, I've only got about 25 hrs. in Skyrim, though I keep it
>installed, always meaning to come back to it, but usually finding
>something more interesting to play. 

Throw all your perks at archery and stealth. If you do that you can
crouch and hide for bonus damage and kill anything in the game except
dragons with 1 or 2 shots.

Archery is way overpowered, but if you're looking to head into
anything and explore without fear of dying, its the way to go.

I'm really not happy re. the increasing 're-mastered' releases.
The 1st 2 Bioshocks are just out ...DOOM 3 ...Chronicles of Riddick 
....Farcry (1st one) ...
Deus Ex HR ...

The re-mastered titles I have checked out usually look only slightly
improved.
Not a healthy trend & IMHO another sign of dyeing Game industry.
(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")  mouse (Just Ate A Cold Pancake) 

On Sat, 24 Sep 2016 17:21:49 +0100, "Trimble Bracegirdle"
<no-spam@never.spam> wrote:

>I'm really not happy re. the increasing 're-mastered' releases.
>The 1st 2 Bioshocks are just out ...DOOM 3 ...Chronicles of Riddick 
>....Farcry (1st one) ...
>Deus Ex HR ...
>
>The re-mastered titles I have checked out usually look only slightly
>improved.
>Not a healthy trend & IMHO another sign of dyeing Game industry.
>(\__/)
>(='.'=)
>(")_(")  mouse (Just Ate A Cold Pancake) 


Most of the times the point in a remaster is simply higher resolution.
Unless you've made a dramatic change in your monitor resolution (4k
etc) you won't benefit much from the changes.