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Article #707184Re: some thoughts about nazism and games
From: Christoph Sieß
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 00:00
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 00:00
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Sorry about my english I'm a german speaking person (I am from Austira). I think this posting is very intelligent, you should send it with all replies to the game companies. Because I think games should be more "intelligent". I think that Half-Life goes in the best direction´. And I can't unterstand the programers of "Wolfenstein 3d" (i think it was ID-Softwares John Romero). It is not good to make games which are about the Nazis, because many "Heros" ot the WWII had to do such horribel things. In a war there only can be loosers. Many of the "Heros" were against Hitler but what should the do? If the had not done what Hitler said they would be killed, so they had to kill. But the problem is that there would no games like "Duke Nukem3d" if nobody would buy it. So we have to change the people only than we can change the games. I hope you unterstand what I meaned. bye Christoph P.S.: I send this Posting and the replies to a good german online-gamesmagazin, I hope this help a little. F r e e <nos...@teleline.es> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag: 7r4een$80m$1@diana.bcn.ttd.net... > 1) Many role and FPS games use nazi-like or nazi symbolism: power, magic, > blood&honor, aggresive eagles, skulls, runes and signs. In (more or less) > historical games this doesn't matter. (BTW, i don't understand a f**k why in > Germany and elsewhere they have troubles with Mortyr, where you have to kill > the nazis). > 2) But i see a disgusting influence from those games that make the gamer > identify him/herself with those stupid simbolsim. That's creating sympathy > for very unsympathic fantasies. > 3) Specially, i don't like at all that the guys of Unreal have chosen such a > svastika-like logo for Tournament. > 3 bis) I just remember Age of Empires, where some kinda priests had a role, > which Hitler (and the Popes) would have loved (dominate by the power of > words). Unbelievable, Bil Gates the Atheist sells it! > 4) Considering that the *real* heroes that won the WWII and knew the enemy > are getting very old, and considering the lack of historical > education/interest and evaluation of the youngest generation, the number of > people that find the SS stuff, etc., fancy could increase, right? > > I think we should email those game companies and tell them to put more > creativity in their games and to stop repeating old, disgusting fascist > symbols! > > F r e e > >
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