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Article #707183Re: some thoughts about nazism and games
From: Victor Chan
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 00:00
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 00:00
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No. Why should games like that further distort the past? Or to influence others to think about the past the way these games, somehow, convey the meaning? Is not like anyone has lived in that era and to make a judgment on it. Even historians study that moment of history from the perspective of an "outsider." I am sure the treatment of this subject would be different if these games were developed by "German programmers" with "in-depth" (almost first-hand) knowledge about that moment of history. Concerning about those symbols, they are archetypal. F r e e <nos...@teleline.es> wrote in message news:7r4een$80m$1@diana.bcn.ttd.net... > 1) Many role and FPS games use nazi-like or nazi symbolism: power, magic, > blood&honor, aggresive eagles, skulls, runes and signs. In (more or less) > historical games this doesn't matter. (BTW, i don't understand a f**k why in > Germany and elsewhere they have troubles with Mortyr, where you have to kill > the nazis). > 2) But i see a disgusting influence from those games that make the gamer > identify him/herself with those stupid simbolsim. That's creating sympathy > for very unsympathic fantasies. > 3) Specially, i don't like at all that the guys of Unreal have chosen such a > svastika-like logo for Tournament. > 3 bis) I just remember Age of Empires, where some kinda priests had a role, > which Hitler (and the Popes) would have loved (dominate by the power of > words). Unbelievable, Bil Gates the Atheist sells it! > 4) Considering that the *real* heroes that won the WWII and knew the enemy > are getting very old, and considering the lack of historical > education/interest and evaluation of the youngest generation, the number of > people that find the SS stuff, etc., fancy could increase, right? > > I think we should email those game companies and tell them to put more > creativity in their games and to stop repeating old, disgusting fascist > symbols! > > F r e e > >
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