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On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:30:15 -0800, "Doug."
<doug.bellamy@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>Hi
>
>How come this has turned in to spam central ?
>
>Where is everybody ?
>
>Cheers
>
>Doug.
>
I haven't seen any spam, so I assume my provider filters it.

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They got them hoppy legs and twitchy little noses !
And what's with all the carrots ?  
What do they need such good eyesight for anyway ?
Bunnies !  Bunnies !  It must be BUNNIES !

Everything has been getting sleeted with spam lately.  As for this place, I
come to lurk once in a while to see what's going on.  I guess most of the
regulars left after the only potential continuation was cancelled, and the
EDF project fell to peices.

ADAMIZER

"Doug." <doug.bellamy@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> Hi
>
> How come this has turned in to spam central ?
>
> Where is everybody ?
>
> Cheers
>
> Doug.
>
>

Yup, I keep this newsgroup subscribed because I'm a sentimental sod
but I don't expect we are going to see an XCOM(like) succesor.
Aftermath was a dissapointment and JA2 wildfire, while interesting,
isn't really worth making fuss over.

Oh well, someday maybe our luck will change.


On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:20:50 GMT, "Xaervagon"
<slacker_ap1@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote:

>Everything has been getting sleeted with spam lately.  As for this place, I
>come to lurk once in a while to see what's going on.  I guess most of the
>regulars left after the only potential continuation was cancelled, and the
>EDF project fell to peices.
>
>ADAMIZER
>
>"Doug." <doug.bellamy@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>news:GIhxb.19$SN1.21147@newsfep1-win.server.ntli.net...
>> Hi
>>
>> How come this has turned in to spam central ?
>>
>> Where is everybody ?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Doug.
>>
>>
>

It's good to see that somebody is still around.  Do you have any idea what
happened to the guys from the EDF project?  Whenever I posted here, they
would say that lots of progress is being made, but on the website, I never
saw any.

Anyway, on an OT note, does anyone know where I can find the x-com
collector's edition unofficial patch (for nvidia cards)?

ADAMIZER


"Elmar Bijlsma" <Elmarby[removetomail]@xs4all.nl> wrote in message
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>
> Yup, I keep this newsgroup subscribed because I'm a sentimental sod
> but I don't expect we are going to see an XCOM(like) succesor.
> Aftermath was a dissapointment and JA2 wildfire, while interesting,
> isn't really worth making fuss over.
>
> Oh well, someday maybe our luck will change.
>
>
> On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:20:50 GMT, "Xaervagon"
> <slacker_ap1@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Everything has been getting sleeted with spam lately.  As for this place,
I
> >come to lurk once in a while to see what's going on.  I guess most of the
> >regulars left after the only potential continuation was cancelled, and
the
> >EDF project fell to peices.
> >
> >ADAMIZER
> >
> >"Doug." <doug.bellamy@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> >news:GIhxb.19$SN1.21147@newsfep1-win.server.ntli.net...
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> How come this has turned in to spam central ?
> >>
> >> Where is everybody ?
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >> Doug.
> >>
> >>
> >
>

"Xaervagon" <slacker_ap1@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote:

[snip]

>Anyway, on an OT note, does anyone know where I can find the x-com
>collector's edition unofficial patch (for nvidia cards)?

I don't think I've ever heard of one just for nvidia cards.  Is this
the one you mean?  http://www.geocities.com/f0dder/misc.htm

Yeah, that's the one, but I only remember the problem being with nVidia
cards.  You mean to tell me, that there were people with ati cards that had
the same trouble too?  Hmm.

Thanks,
ADAMIZER

<noctrnl@swbell.net> wrote in message news:bq6hit0dl5@enews2.newsguy.com...
> "Xaervagon" <slacker_ap1@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> >Anyway, on an OT note, does anyone know where I can find the x-com
> >collector's edition unofficial patch (for nvidia cards)?
>
> I don't think I've ever heard of one just for nvidia cards.  Is this
> the one you mean?  http://www.geocities.com/f0dder/misc.htm
>

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>It's good to see that somebody is still around.  Do you have any idea what
>happened to the guys from the EDF project?  Whenever I posted here, they
>would say that lots of progress is being made, but on the website, I never
>saw any.
>
>Anyway, on an OT note, does anyone know where I can find the x-com
>collector's edition unofficial patch (for nvidia cards)?

They never made any progress at all. They were a bunch of losers. Try
http://www.projectxenocide.com/ instead.
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On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:44:42 -0800, "Doug."
<doug.bellamy@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>http://www.lasersquadnemesis.com
>
>Is still getting support.
>
>Quote:
>
>"Will Laser Squad Nemesis become like the X-Com games?"
>The answer is yes, and more. We are currently developing an AI system for
>LSN which will be better and more sophisticated than the AI we developed for
>the X-Com games. We are also developing a massively multiplayer online
>strategy game based on LSN - something which X-Com lacked. We are also
>planning to build a more ambitious single player exeperience reminiscent of
>the first X-Com game (aka. UFO: Enemy Unknown) with a 'geoscape' world view,
>RPG elements and resource management. X-Com was just the beginning - LSN is
>the future.
>
>Cheers
>
>Doug.

Every now and then I check it out. LSN in it's current form doesn't
appeal to me and it's been so long ago that they said they had started
working on AI then I'm beginning to wonder what the Hades is going on.
Ohwell, it probably means it's going to kick arse when it's done.
Meanwhile I plan to keep myself happy with Combat Mission: Afrika
Korps. A scale up from squad based combat, but a whole lotta turn
based combat fun.

But I forgot to mention one game that might satisfy our squad based
RPG-ish tastes. Silents Storm has a rather spiffy engine. I suggest
anyone who hasn't done so already checks out the demo. The deformable
terrain is a real joy, AI is pretty competent. My cool-o-meter
redlines when machine-gunning a sound contact a floor above you only
for the floor to give way and a corpse to flop down the hole,
preferably getting stuck half way! The only real niggles are that AI
turns take loooong and that map sizes are small as a result of wich
throwing a grenade means you can't toss it very much past your own
feet due to compressed ranges.

http://www.lasersquadnemesis.com

Is still getting support.

Quote:

"Will Laser Squad Nemesis become like the X-Com games?"
The answer is yes, and more. We are currently developing an AI system for
LSN which will be better and more sophisticated than the AI we developed for
the X-Com games. We are also developing a massively multiplayer online
strategy game based on LSN - something which X-Com lacked. We are also
planning to build a more ambitious single player exeperience reminiscent of
the first X-Com game (aka. UFO: Enemy Unknown) with a 'geoscape' world view,
RPG elements and resource management. X-Com was just the beginning - LSN is
the future.

Cheers

Doug.


"Elmar Bijlsma" <Elmarby[removetomail]@xs4all.nl> wrote in message
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>
> Yup, I keep this newsgroup subscribed because I'm a sentimental sod
> but I don't expect we are going to see an XCOM(like) succesor.
> Aftermath was a dissapointment and JA2 wildfire, while interesting,
> isn't really worth making fuss over.
>
> Oh well, someday maybe our luck will change.

> They never made any progress at all. They were a bunch of losers. Try
> http://www.projectxenocide.com/ instead.
> --

I disagree with you here.  Until Koralt decided to disappear without a trace
for a year, it looked like it was really getting off the ground.  There just
wasn't anyone who could take his place and drop off a 400 page design doc on
them.  I think their goals were bit ambitious, and that they should have
just started off with an x-com clone first, but I really think it would have
amounted to something if there had been someone to take Koralt's lead role
before the people dissappeared.

Well, that's my 2 cents anyhow.

Thanks for the link btw,

ADAMIZER

I'm really not a fan of "pay-per-play" gaming.  When will the single player
portion be ready?

ADAMIZER

"Doug." <doug.bellamy@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.lasersquadnemesis.com
>
> Is still getting support.
>
> Quote:
>
> "Will Laser Squad Nemesis become like the X-Com games?"
> The answer is yes, and more. We are currently developing an AI system for
> LSN which will be better and more sophisticated than the AI we developed
for
> the X-Com games. We are also developing a massively multiplayer online
> strategy game based on LSN - something which X-Com lacked. We are also
> planning to build a more ambitious single player exeperience reminiscent
of
> the first X-Com game (aka. UFO: Enemy Unknown) with a 'geoscape' world
view,
> RPG elements and resource management. X-Com was just the beginning - LSN
is
> the future.
>
> Cheers
>
> Doug.
>
>
> "Elmar Bijlsma" <Elmarby[removetomail]@xs4all.nl> wrote in message
> news:jlddsvge2tj86j02vv5mfpsoi8iqcoar3h@4ax.com...
> >
> > Yup, I keep this newsgroup subscribed because I'm a sentimental sod
> > but I don't expect we are going to see an XCOM(like) succesor.
> > Aftermath was a dissapointment and JA2 wildfire, while interesting,
> > isn't really worth making fuss over.
> >
> > Oh well, someday maybe our luck will change.
>
>

Doug. wrote:
> Hi
> 
> How come this has turned in to spam central ?
> 
> Where is everybody ?
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Doug.
> 
> 

I don't know, man, I just work here.

- Bluemage

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>http://www.lasersquadnemesis.com
>
>Is still getting support.
>
>Quote:
>
>"Will Laser Squad Nemesis become like the X-Com games?"
>The answer is yes, and more. We are currently developing an AI system for
>LSN which will be better and more sophisticated than the AI we developed for
>the X-Com games. We are also developing a massively multiplayer online
>strategy game based on LSN - something which X-Com lacked. We are also
>planning to build a more ambitious single player exeperience reminiscent of
>the first X-Com game (aka. UFO: Enemy Unknown) with a 'geoscape' world view,
>RPG elements and resource management. X-Com was just the beginning - LSN is
>the future.

Mmmmm wet panties.
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>> They never made any progress at all. They were a bunch of losers. Try
>> http://www.projectxenocide.com/ instead.
>> --
>
>I disagree with you here.  Until Koralt decided to disappear without a trace
>for a year, it looked like it was really getting off the ground.  There just
>wasn't anyone who could take his place and drop off a 400 page design doc on
>them.  I think their goals were bit ambitious, and that they should have
>just started off with an x-com clone first, but I really think it would have
>amounted to something if there had been someone to take Koralt's lead role
>before the people dissappeared.
>
>Well, that's my 2 cents anyhow.
>
>Thanks for the link btw,

A design doc never ever counts as progress. It's mainly Koralt's fault
for it being such a mess because he didn't keep the project under
control and at a realistic scale.
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Elmar Bijlsma wrote:

<snipped a bunch of crap so I can go OT>

hullo, Elmar. I was browsing the Battlefront forums just now, saw your 
name, and thought to myself, "Self, that's an awfully familiar name. Do 
you reckon...?"

So I wander back into agx-c just on the off chance there might still be 
someone hanging around, and whaddya know? :)

Jason, aka Bad Monkey!, aka Battlefront Forum member 5352

On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 03:01:21 GMT, Jason
<badmonkeyREMOVE@BANANAScfl.rr.com> wrote:

>Elmar Bijlsma wrote:
>
><snipped a bunch of crap so I can go OT>
>
>hullo, Elmar. I was browsing the Battlefront forums just now, saw your 
>name, and thought to myself, "Self, that's an awfully familiar name. Do 
>you reckon...?"
>
>So I wander back into agx-c just on the off chance there might still be 
>someone hanging around, and whaddya know? :)
>
>Jason, aka Bad Monkey!, aka Battlefront Forum member 5352

Hiya.
A question I always asked myself. Should I recommend Combat Mission to
X-Com players? The scale of the combat is one level up and there is no
managment bit other that picking your forces for a quick battle but I
always found the pace and basic idea of combat somewhat similar. 
So fess up, who else here plays combat mission? (or wants to do so
after playing one of the demos at http://www.battlefront.com ) 
<hint, hint>
I for one rate Combat Mission on a par with X-Com.

Elmar Bijlsma wrote:

> Hiya.
> A question I always asked myself. Should I recommend Combat Mission to
> X-Com players? The scale of the combat is one level up and there is no
> managment bit other that picking your forces for a quick battle but I
> always found the pace and basic idea of combat somewhat similar. 
> So fess up, who else here plays combat mission? (or wants to do so
> after playing one of the demos at http://www.battlefront.com ) 
> <hint, hint>
> I for one rate Combat Mission on a par with X-Com.

Yeah, I would reccomend it, with the simple caveat that *it's not squad 
level*. It operates at more of a battalion level, with the smallest 
units usually being squads or half squads, with the occaisional special 
purpose soldier like a sniper or somesuch. You dont have the same level 
of control as you do in xcom, and your guys very much have a mind of 
their own sometimes.

That said, the game has some really nifty commands to control your units 
with, great graphics, and the armoured combat is to die for. It also 
helps if you're into WW2.

I would also rate Combat Mission with X-Com. They're both the same kind 
of genre-breaking/defining type of game, even though they're really 
quite different.

Believe it or not, I was first introduced to CM by Det, way back when we 
were still brainstorming ideas for Genesis.

- Jason