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A Freelancer question...
#160921
Author: Paul & Victoria Heisner
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 00:28
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Greetings All,

I am going through Freelancer for the second time, only this time I am
taking advantage of a "walk through" about the wrecks in freelancer
done by Matthew Lawson (Thanks Matthew, great guide!).

I know that any ship I have has a few different "cargo bays" on it.
The main one that most everything you beam aboard (the gray squares
turn blue in your inventory screen) and one for your guns that I had
heard holds 26 guns/missile launchers/drones etc.  I am at that part
where we got the Proteous Tome(sp?) and I am in an "Order" heavy
fighter.  I have been looting  the wrecks in each system I can get to
when I'm not being dragged around and yelled at for going to slow for
my main source of income, which has been *very* profitable!  

I am at level 17 and I was wondering, what is used to determine at
what point I go up a level?  Is it related solely to my income? I have
about $400,000 in cash, my ship, my mounted guns. Approx. $700,000
total.   Does the guns I have "in stock" ie not mounted, count into it
or do I have to sell them in order to gain the monetary benefit?  I
have about 10 level 10 guns I can;'t use right now but was hanging on
to them to use later (although, they all have a fire rate of 2.00, I
have learned to like the ones I am using that fire at a rate of 4.00
but thought 2.00 might be too slow.  I can sell them for $33,000 a pop
as they are "code" guns you can't get anywhere else.

Also, has anyone continued on much after the story to get the
top-of-the-line ship and guns?

Just curious ;>

Thank you in advance.

Paul C. Heisner
************************************************************************
"Trent, your going too slow, give more power to the engines!"
"SHUT THE @#$%& UP!!!"
************************************************************************
Re: A Freelancer question...
#160922
Author: Bateau
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 03:29
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Try comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.space-sim.

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>
>
>Greetings All,
>
>I am going through Freelancer for the second time, only this time I am
>taking advantage of a "walk through" about the wrecks in freelancer
>done by Matthew Lawson (Thanks Matthew, great guide!).
>
>I know that any ship I have has a few different "cargo bays" on it.
>The main one that most everything you beam aboard (the gray squares
>turn blue in your inventory screen) and one for your guns that I had
>heard holds 26 guns/missile launchers/drones etc.  I am at that part
>where we got the Proteous Tome(sp?) and I am in an "Order" heavy
>fighter.  I have been looting  the wrecks in each system I can get to
>when I'm not being dragged around and yelled at for going to slow for
>my main source of income, which has been *very* profitable!  
>
>I am at level 17 and I was wondering, what is used to determine at
>what point I go up a level?  Is it related solely to my income? I have
>about $400,000 in cash, my ship, my mounted guns. Approx. $700,000
>total.   Does the guns I have "in stock" ie not mounted, count into it
>or do I have to sell them in order to gain the monetary benefit?  I
>have about 10 level 10 guns I can;'t use right now but was hanging on
>to them to use later (although, they all have a fire rate of 2.00, I
>have learned to like the ones I am using that fire at a rate of 4.00
>but thought 2.00 might be too slow.  I can sell them for $33,000 a pop
>as they are "code" guns you can't get anywhere else.
>
>Also, has anyone continued on much after the story to get the
>top-of-the-line ship and guns?
>
>Just curious ;>
>
>Thank you in advance.
>
>Paul C. Heisner
>************************************************************************
>"Trent, your going too slow, give more power to the engines!"
>"SHUT THE @#$%& UP!!!"
>************************************************************************

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Re: A Freelancer question...
#160938
Author: Karl Frank
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:28
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Paul & Victoria Heisner wrote:

> I am at level 17 and I was wondering, what is used to determine at
> what point I go up a level? 

Just look at the screen. It should indicate the stuff needed for the 
next level right under your level. Either it will say MISSION or it will 
indicate a certain ammount of money needed.

> Is it related solely to my income?

It is related solely on your net worth IIRC with the exception of the 
storyline where it is also dependent on the progress of the story.

> I have
> about $400,000 in cash, my ship, my mounted guns. Approx. $700,000
> total.   Does the guns I have "in stock" ie not mounted, count into it
> or do I have to sell them in order to gain the monetary benefit?

I think it counts for the worth, but I am not 100% sure here.

>  I
> have about 10 level 10 guns I can;'t use right now but was hanging on
> to them to use later (although, they all have a fire rate of 2.00, I
> have learned to like the ones I am using that fire at a rate of 4.00
> but thought 2.00 might be too slow.  I can sell them for $33,000 a pop
> as they are "code" guns you can't get anywhere else.

Definitely sell 4 of em (except you are a collector that wants to 
compare their graphics). No fighter can mount 10 guns. But there are 
better guns then the code guns out there...
BTW: Personally I like the 2.0 guns.

> Also, has anyone continued on much after the story to get the
> top-of-the-line ship and guns?

Of course. Played to the last level and looted every wreck. Not really 
worth it however. You've seen pretty much everything that is cool in the 
storyline. You can however find the wreckage of the Hispania and you can 
find 2 special systems (don't bother exploring either - one is empty, 
the other one only has the two planets that are visible from the start)

--
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blowing first.

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Re: A Freelancer question...
#160923
Author: Karl Frank
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:29
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Bateau wrote:

> Try comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.space-sim.

Sigh... *hugs Bateu* - maybe he'll leave the place then...

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blowing first.

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Re: A Freelancer question...
#160924
Author: Bateau
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 05:39
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>Bateau wrote:
>
>> Try comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.space-sim.
>
>Sigh... *hugs Bateu* - maybe he'll leave the place then...

HUH
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Re: A Freelancer question...
#160925
Author: Karl Frank
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:06
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Bateau wrote:

>>Sigh... *hugs Bateu* - maybe he'll leave the place then...
> HUH

<g> Well we tried everything else with you, didn't we?

PLEASE cut your header/sig. They are a PITA.

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Re: A Freelancer question...
#160926
Author: Bateau
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 03:17
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>Bateau wrote:
>
>>>Sigh... *hugs Bateu* - maybe he'll leave the place then...
>> HUH
>
><g> Well we tried everything else with you, didn't we?
>
>PLEASE cut your header/sig. They are a PITA.

A what?
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Re: A Freelancer question...
#160927
Author: Karl Frank
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 09:10
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Bateau wrote:

>>PLEASE cut your header/sig. They are a PITA.
> A what?

Pain in the a**

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A: We can see no need for uninstallation and have therefore made no 
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Re: A Freelancer question...
#160928
Author: Quinch
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 10:46
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Karl Frank wrote:
> Bateau wrote:
> 
>>> PLEASE cut your header/sig. They are a PITA.
>>
>> A what?
> 
> 
> Pain in the a**

Ant? Ado? Art? Ape? Asp? Axe?

Quinch
Re: A Freelancer question...
#160929
Author: Bateau
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 19:11
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>Bateau wrote:
>
>>>PLEASE cut your header/sig. They are a PITA.
>> A what?
>
>Pain in the a**

No they're not.
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Re: A Freelancer question...
#160930
Author: Kevin Scholl
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:17
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Bateau wrote:

[snip]

>>Bateau wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>PLEASE cut your header/sig. They are a PITA.
>>>
>>>A what?
>>
>>Pain in the a**
> 
> 
> No they're not.

Actually, yes, they are. Very nice ASCII art, but rather inappropriate 
for usenet.

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Re: A Freelancer question...
#160931
Author: Bateau
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 05:35
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>
>
>Bateau wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
>>>Bateau wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>PLEASE cut your header/sig. They are a PITA.
>>>>
>>>>A what?
>>>
>>>Pain in the a**
>> 
>> 
>> No they're not.
>
>Actually, yes, they are. Very nice ASCII art, but rather inappropriate 
>for usenet.

Hardly.
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Re: A Freelancer question...
#160932
Author: Quinch
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 07:31
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>>Bateau wrote:
>>
>>[snip]
>>
>>
>>>>Bateau wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>PLEASE cut your header/sig. They are a PITA.
>>>>>
>>>>>A what?
>>>>
>>>>Pain in the a**
>>>
>>>
>>>No they're not.
>>
>>Actually, yes, they are. Very nice ASCII art, but rather inappropriate 
>>for usenet.
> 
> 
> Hardly.

That's exactly the choice of words I would use to describe having to 
scroll through three pages of ASCII for a three-word response.

Quinch
Re: A Freelancer question...
#160934
Author: Kevin Scholl
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 16:27
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Bateau wrote:

[snip]

>>>>>>PLEASE cut your header/sig. They are a PITA.
>>>>>
>>>>>A what?
>>>>
>>>>Pain in the a**
>>>
>>>
>>>No they're not.
>>
>>Actually, yes, they are. Very nice ASCII art, but rather inappropriate 
>>for usenet.
> 
> 
> Hardly.

Not hardly. If you don't want people to continue to read your posts, by 
all means leave the art in. Otherwise, drop it.

Simple rules of 'Net etiquette. People don't want to scroll through a 
bunch of extraneous garbage to get to the content. It's nice to look at 
once, unnecessarily tedious thereafter.

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Re: A Freelancer question...
#160933
Author: Bateau
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 13:05
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>>>Bateau wrote:
>>>
>>>[snip]
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Bateau wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>PLEASE cut your header/sig. They are a PITA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>A what?
>>>>>
>>>>>Pain in the a**
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>No they're not.
>>>
>>>Actually, yes, they are. Very nice ASCII art, but rather inappropriate 
>>>for usenet.
>> 
>> 
>> Hardly.
>
>That's exactly the choice of words I would use to describe having to 
>scroll through three pages of ASCII for a three-word response.

That doesn't make sense.
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Re: A Freelancer question...
#160935
Author: Bateau
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 13:05
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>
>
>Bateau wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
>>>>>>>PLEASE cut your header/sig. They are a PITA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>A what?
>>>>>
>>>>>Pain in the a**
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>No they're not.
>>>
>>>Actually, yes, they are. Very nice ASCII art, but rather inappropriate 
>>>for usenet.
>> 
>> 
>> Hardly.
>
>Not hardly. If you don't want people to continue to read your posts, by 
>all means leave the art in. Otherwise, drop it.
>
>Simple rules of 'Net etiquette. People don't want to scroll through a 
>bunch of extraneous garbage to get to the content. It's nice to look at 
>once, unnecessarily tedious thereafter.

People post enough crap in the groups I read without them replying to me
too.
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