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Article #280989Re: Merry Christmas
From: Phorse 5
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 19:22
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 19:22
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Tynan Carrick wrote: > > > We are at a point in technology where very few to zero people actually > NEED > > to work. Most essential tasks could be done by pre-programmed robots. > Most > > jobs are otherwise useless filler. Almost every desk job is useless > filler. > > Keeping "work" in place serves as nothing more than a way for those in > power > > to stay in power. Without "work" the class system would be obliterated. > > I disagree; even humans are still required for desk jobs, simply for > abstract thinking. If left for computers to do, then they are bound within > their programming, and the occational much-needed random task that needs to > be done can't be accomplished. > > Example: I work in a warehouse that on occation due to logistics and gov't > regs, we keep a close eye on orders. If we need to hold a truck over or > "short and ship" it, then we need the approval of someone who can make a > guess about the coming events of the next day to give us the ok on what to > do. You might be able to replace the loader, but you can't make a computer > make a decision based on guesses. You'd have to set a boundary, and by doing > that, you can't have the maching break it's programming to make spontaneous > decisions. I thought the idea of AI was to have a computer that could guess. Even the most logical can make guesses based on what has happened in the past. Game engines live or die by their ability to make guesses. So do NASA rockets, and a number of high speed machines - especially those where the human involved is mere ballast at times when it is critical to make accurate guesses. AFAIK, astronauts still black out at some point. Now, while in theory they might be able to take over when conscious, there is not much they can do while blacked out or tripping. That's where the multiple redundancy system of computerized guesswork comes in. Of course it may make the odd mistake here n there, but shuttles have generally failed because a human made the wrong 'guess' rather than a computer, IIRC (discovery channel, i thank thee). -- from: Mr. J D Cooper aka Phorse 5 [Force 5] Remove the number(s) from the email address for fastest reply. More sig here: © http://phorse.netfirms.com/sig.html © Fireball Holdings © 2001 - 2004 ABN: 23 939 806 835
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Path: mbox-mo1.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!news2.google.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Phorse 5 <dapho...@yahoo.com.au> Newsgroups: alt.games.starcraft Subject: Re: Merry Christmas Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 21:22:27 +0200 Organization: Fireball Holdings @ http://zap.to/fireball Lines: 50 Message-ID: <412A43F3.B4AEEC68@yahoo.com.au> References: <2om09qFc2u24U1@uni-berlin.de> <dtoVc.4877$Y94.320@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com> <cgbvkt$f6b$1@cnn.cns.ksu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de pIDr1o0KIN8PK/3WMFRc9wd/nwMypIYgfQJlXwxOEHms3vgLw= X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit