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"kelvin tooth" <kel...@shootnsurf.co.uk> wrote:

>I keep seeing guns (in screenshots of Quake2) which point into the centre
>of the screen from the bottom right
>corner of the screen (a la Duke Nukem). I have always felt that
>idsoftware's games were special and better with 
>their forward pointing guns (which I think are better).
>
>
>Please please please
>write to idsoftware and tell them not to cave in on this one,
>all their games from Wolfenstein up have maintained this 
>extremely high quality gameplay etc. etc. etc.
>
>thank you

Ok, well think for a moment. Wolfenstien: Where do you hold a pistol?
It can be directly infront, among other things. Where do you hold a
submachine gun? Directly infront.
Now, shotgun. Where would you hold on of those? Propped against your
shoulder to brace against the recoil.. Rocketlauncher? Balanced on
your shoulder...
And anyway, according to Paul Steed the weapon models have been highly
optimised so there only is a right hand side of htem, they were going
to have a left and right handed mode, but can't cause they're keeping
poly counts as low as possible.
If you *really* want, it'd be possible to move it into the center of
the screen, but you'd only have half a gun..
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 Ismail Saeed wrote in article <33F38B99...@erols.com>...
>It's a matter of realism..... do you have a gun pointing OUT of your
>stomach in real life? No, your holding it in your hand.

>It's not an idea id disliked, it just didn't come to them till they
>saw Duke... and Quake was already coming out at the time.

>This is something they won't change or they'll get delayed months in
>release because of retooling every single weapon model.

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I couldn't agree more! I believe the gun placement in Quake 2 has a more =
realistic look than directly in front of you. In response to the people =
that say you can't aim good with it there, I play Quake with FOV set to =
110, at which view, there is no weapon visible on the screen and I am =
now MORE accurate with it like that than before. That's what the =
crosshair is for to have a reference when aiming, so I use it as such.
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>And anyway, according to Paul Steed the weapon models have been highly
>optimised so there only is a right hand side of htem, they were going
>to have a left and right handed mode, but can't cause they're keeping
>poly counts as low as possible.

Mirror the frame, then flip the textures.  No biggie.  Just that they
have to hard code it, which might take some time..  Guess they don't
want to risk hurting other parts of the game by retooling something
little like that..

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Dllem wrote:
> 
> >And anyway, according to Paul Steed the weapon models have been highly
> >optimised so there only is a right hand side of htem, they were going
> >to have a left and right handed mode, but can't cause they're keeping
> >poly counts as low as possible.
> 
> Mirror the frame, then flip the textures.  No biggie.  Just that they
> have to hard code it, which might take some time..  Guess they don't
> want to risk hurting other parts of the game by retooling something
> little like that..
> 
> Dllem
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Hard coding things like that is ultimately bad.  Quake creativity could
have gone even farther if there hadn't been certain things hard coded
(like a good deal of the status bar management).

Anyways, the option is available to mod authors, and Quake 2 is even
more editable.

It's not such a biggie, after all first person games are meant to be a
game where you play a given character, not a custom tailored character.
If you custom tailor your character you may as well make him invincible.
Just because its a right handed player doesn't put down lefties.

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