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Dude, it IS being written for windows, and id won't be making any
more DOS games.


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ok frank.

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Y0 Moron Quake 2 is not being written for ONLY Windows 95. It's being
written for Unix, Linux and more too.

Hyde wrote:

>  What are those people's thoughts here reguarding id Software planning
> on
> producing Quake 2 for Win 95 only?  Frankly, I'm glad the company has
> finally gotten around to it, and has stopped messing with DOS...



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Bob Nelson wrote:
> 
> that will never happen- everything runs faster in dos unless your
> hardware doesn't support it.  windows just limits how much information
> can be sent around and that isn't good enough.

Everything runs faster under DOS assuming you are willing to duplicate
all the specialized programming done for various video cards and sound
cards to get the equal speed increase of the specialized drivers for
Windows.  But considdering that the special coding for each card is
virtually impossible nowadays, Windows will almost surely run a good 3D
game better - especially with DirectX 5.

Tim.

The Wolfman:

id doesn't like Microsoft, your right.  But they are writing Quake 2 to
run on Windows 95 and NT.  Don't believe me, e-mail Carmack yourself.

Anyways, the original statement was that it was being written for that
platform, not whether or not that platform is good for games.  And yes,
people are writing games for Windows now, in case you haven't noticed.

That's because everybody (all the basic computer joes) are getting
computers with Windows, not DOS like the 80s used to be.

You seem to think that because of issues with it it will never happen,
but it already has, not because of issues with the OS, but because of
how widespread it is.

What's the point with replying to the multiple messages of this thread
all with the same general message?  Yes, we know Microsoft sucks.  Quake
2 is still being written for Windows though.  I'm not a betting person
but whoever wanted to wager on that (not sure who wrote that at this
point), sure I'll bet them, since its been ANNOUNCED that it is already,
and in fact the game is using DLLs.  Same for Daikatana.


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 Being an original beta tester I would think that you would realize the huge
undertaking that Win95 was.  With all of the legacy H/W and S/W that must be
made compatible it is a wonder that 95' worked at all, let alone as well as
it does.  (Can you say "User Error") With the progress of Memphis and NT5
(Memphis being the last 95' type OS) we will all be using NT in future
releases.  Getting an Industry such as the PC industry to work with each
other instead of against each other is also a major undertaking that only a
company like Microsoft could pull off.  We the users are the beneficiaries
of there forward thinking.  Sounds like you should continue to use DOS and
quit whining about 95'.    BTW if you would occasionally read the MS HCL
(hardware compat list) you would see that the AWE64 isn't there.  I suppose
you will blame 95' for this also.   The Pentium Pro's Floating Point Unit is
also not optimized for 16 bit code, of which most current games are written.
As for a gaming platform, although DirectX may have problems, at least there
is a light at the end of the long dark DOS tunnel.  There are games that
take full advantage of that platform and play very well, example Motoracer
GP.
This is not meant as a flame but rather a way for you to understand that the
OS cannot be held responsible for your Bad purchasing decisions (PentiumPro,
Awe64).

Later
Mitch

 Being an original beta tester I would think that you would realize the huge
undertaking that Win95 was.  With all of the legacy H/W and S/W that must be
made compatible it is a wonder that 95' worked at all, let alone as well as
it does.  (Can you say "User Error") With the progress of Memphis and NT5
(Memphis being the last 95' type OS) we will all be using NT in future
releases.  Getting an Industry such as the PC industry to work with each
other instead of against each other is also a major undertaking that only a
company like Microsoft could pull off.  We the users are the beneficiaries
of there forward thinking.  Sounds like you should continue to use DOS and
quit whining about 95'.    BTW if you would occasionally read the MS HCL
(hardware compat list) you would see that the AWE64 isn't there.  I suppose
you will blame 95' for this also.   The Pentium Pro's Floating Point Unit is
also not optimized for 16 bit code, of which most current games are written.
As for a gaming platform, although DirectX may have problems, at least there
is a light at the end of the long dark DOS tunnel.  There are games that
take full advantage of that platform and play very well, example Motoracer
GP.
This is not meant as a flame but rather a way for you to understand that the
OS cannot be held responsible for your Bad purchasing decisions (PentiumPro,
Awe64).

Later
Mitch



The Wolfman wrote in article
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>In article <5sgp1g$ent$1...@ns.destek.net>, v...@sugar-river.net prattles...
>>
>> What are those people's thoughts here reguarding id Software planning on
>>producing Quake 2 for Win 95 only?  Frankly, I'm glad the company has
>>finally gotten around to it, and has stopped messing with DOS...
>===========================
>Well, except for the fact that Microsoft Windows '95 is the sorriest
>piece of shit to ever be foisted on an unsuspecting public, I think
>I'd rather stick with the DOS... or jump to NT...  '95 is just not
>very well layed out nor very well written...  it's slow, stuttering,
>jerky (occasionally), even on my 200 Pro/3Dfx Voodoo/Creative AWE-64
>Gold, knock down, drag out, 8-1/2 X 11, suitable for framing, speed
>demon !  It's just not a gaming environment, and I'm afraid it never
>will be.  I was one of the original beta-testers.
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