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In article <QHXc2.2808$961....@server1.news.adelphia.net>, 
tabmok99....@damnspaz.com says...
> Would you agree that our society is imprisoning gay people (at least from
> their perspective)?  

No. I would say some people such as yourself are trying to do that but 
society in general has learned to be more forgiving of people's 
differences. 

How are you on single mothers? Divorcees? Sex outside of marriage? 
Children of couples who choose not to marry? Society was once very 
damning of such people and although a little prejudice may remain, for 
the main it has been removed. God's "laws" are crumbling all the time and 
society is better off for it. We have advanced.

> And would you also agree that in a prison, people
> practice gay sex?

Some people. We have said this. So what?

> Then it is obvious that it is unnatural in either case.

How did you jump to *this* conclusion? 

Sex in prison occurs through pent up sexual frustration and merely brings 
out animal instincts which make people fuck anything that's warm. 
Therefore it could be said to be completely natural! 

Homosexuals were born with sexual attraction towards men. Again it is 
in their nature so a "natural" thing. So what.

Meant to bring it up before but how are you on Lesbians? I don't think 
the bible (sexist publication that it is) even touches on the possibility 
so you may not have any backup on this one. :P

> > > > Why? Did you never hear of something called discrimination? It is when a 
> > > > person or persons discriminate against one or more other persons. We have 
> > > > it with race and with sex. There are also a multitude of other forms. 
> > > > Basically by picking on one small characteristic of a person and calling 
> > > > them unnatural is discrimination. If it is so unnatural how come there 
> > > > are so many instances of it?
> > > 
> > > How come there are so many instances of drug abuse, rape, and murder?
> > > Are these things okay also since there are so many instances of it?
> > 
> > And you were complaining about Alex comparing Apples with Oranges!
> 
> I'm not, I'm comparing red apples with green apples.

How does homosexuality even begin to compare will rape or murder or even 
drug abuse?

> > > It is also very annoying when someone puts homosexuality in the same
> > > class as race and sex.
> > 
> > Tough. :P
> >
> > I do not see why we should make a distinction. Maybe you would tell me 
> > why you think I should.
> 
> I do not see why we should make a distinction between rapists and homos
> either.

Then you are as I said bigoted! Before you argue the definition is 
"unreasonably prejudiced and intolerant". I think that adequately covers 
your views on homosexuality. Let's see how you deal with throwing in 
Lesbianism since your use of the term seems limited to merely gay males.

> > > OK, but the option is there for you to get married in a courtroom by
> > > signing a paper.
> > 
> > So what. Why do we *have* to declare it as a contract. Marriage is 
> > supposed to be about the love between two people. Why does standing in a 
> > Church or any other establishment make it better? 
> 
> Because it's a promise that you'll spend the rest of your life with her.
> Marriage between a man and a woman is a beautiful thing.

You can promise it without some ceremony. Now how about you 
actually answer the question.

> > > I think God made us able to reason, and it's not just a dumb luck.
> > 
> > Sorry I forgot who I was talking to :P
> > 
> > Although, were you not earlier agreeing with "Origin of the Species"? Are 
> > you now saying that the millions of years of evolution were shaped by 
> > God's hand? 
> 
> Yes.  It is God's will that we have the ability to do these things.

ROTFL. Sorry but I *did*! :) - Now go to your happy place before you 
*just* react ;)

> > So is tribal cutlery. Are they inferior to us? :P
> 
> No, because they at least have the *potential* that animals don't have!

Based on what? 

> I'm not being clear again.  Ants and bees communicate with each other 
> psychically.  It's not like how see in the sci-fi movies, where one

Bullshit!

> ant would think a question, the next would think an answer, etc.
> With ants, there's a queen bee thinking which way they should go for food,
> how to do this and that, etc.  The worker ant pretty much has no thought
> of his own, he can walk around, and do basic things but not much else.

So you think that a queen bee can maintain psychic links with an entire 
hive of bees many of whom are miles from the nest on expeditions and then 
have the audacity to claim us as the superior species!

> > Murder is the "unlawful" taking of another persons life. Do you think if 
> > you went on a gay bashing spree and *killed* anyone you came across you 
> > would get away with it since in your belief it is not murder. Or do you 
> > think you would be pissing your pants in the chair while you fried having 
> > been convicted of Murder in the First Degree!
> 
> Even though the *charges* would be murder, it really wouldn't be.  Murdering
> is, according to the New Webster's Dictionary, "homicide with premeditated and 
> malicious intent."  If I went on a gay bashing spree, that wouldn't really be 
> "malicious."  

How do you figure that out? Using your logic a rapist is not doing 
anything wrong either!

> And it might not even be premeditated, if I just went crazy like 
> in the situation you gave.  

Where did I introduce the insanity? Let's redefine, if you went out to 
*specifically* carry out the sentence instructed by *your* God to put a 
homosexual to death do you not see yourself being charged with MURDER! 
Would you not see it as MURDER. We now have premeditation and if the 
intent to kill is not even mildly malicious I do not know what is.


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Mark