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This is in reference to <MPG.10de6bac1...@news.demon.co.uk>, in
which a one ma...@mhetherington.demon.co.uk (Mark) wrote:
> Homosexuals were born with sexual attraction towards men. Again it is 
> in their nature so a "natural" thing. So what.

No they weren't.  It has yet to be determined what the cause is.

> Meant to bring it up before but how are you on Lesbians? I don't think 
> the bible (sexist publication that it is) even touches on the possibility 
> so you may not have any backup on this one. :P

It does.  It talks about the city of Sodom, how it was unholy, and one part 
specifically mentions the women having relationships with each other.

As for lesbians, the same way I feel about homosexuals:  I don't like it that 
they're breaking God's Law, but it Really Pisses Me Off when they blatantly
flaunt it, or set up gay churches.  Some examples of being blatant about it
are TV shows like Ellen.  The show *only* went on because she came out of the 
closet.  It's all about Ellen just making out with her girlfriend.  I don't 
mind when gay people have TV shows, or movies, or whatever, but I do mind when 
they achieve such feats mainly by being gay.

> > > > > If it is so unnatural how come there are so many instances of
> > > > > it?
> > > > 
> > > > How come there are so many instances of drug abuse, rape, and murder?
> > > > Are these things okay also since there are so many instances of it?
> > > 
> > > And you were complaining about Alex comparing Apples with Oranges!
> > 
> > I'm not, I'm comparing red apples with green apples.
> 
> How does homosexuality even begin to compare will rape or murder or even 
> drug abuse?

You're not gonna like the answer, but they are all punishable by death 
(whether in the Bible, or some states, or wherever).

> > I do not see why we should make a distinction between rapists and homos
> > either.
> 
> Then you are as I said bigoted! Before you argue the definition is 
> "unreasonably prejudiced and intolerant". I think that adequately covers 
> your views on homosexuality. Let's see how you deal with throwing in 
> Lesbianism since your use of the term seems limited to merely gay males.

It's not unreasonable.
 
> > > Why does standing in a Church or any other establishment make it
> > > better? 
> > 
> > Because it's a promise that you'll spend the rest of your life with her.
> > Marriage between a man and a woman is a beautiful thing.
> 
> You can promise it without some ceremony. Now how about you 
> actually answer the question.

"Why does standing in a Church or any other establishment make it better?"

For the same reason winning a metal or trophy makes winning first place
better.  For the same reason that signing a contract makes having a job
as a professional basketball player better.  It's a ceremony, it's just
a wonderful occasion, and it's also beautiful to have something to show
for it (wedding rings) to remind you of your promise.

> > > So is tribal cutlery. Are they inferior to us? :P
> > 
> > No, because they at least have the *potential* that animals don't have!
> 
> Based on what? 

We can do it, and if other humans wanted to, they could also.

> So you think that a queen bee can maintain psychic links with an entire 
> hive of bees many of whom are miles from the nest on expeditions and then 
> have the audacity to claim us as the superior species!

Well, the worker bees aren't superior, but as for the queen bee...  
she's just remarkable.
 
> How do you figure that out? Using your logic a rapist is not doing 
> anything wrong either!

Yes he is.

> > And it might not even be premeditated, if I just went crazy like 
> > in the situation you gave.  
> 
> Where did I introduce the insanity? Let's redefine, if you went out to 
> *specifically* carry out the sentence instructed by *your* God to put a 
> homosexual to death do you not see yourself being charged with MURDER! 
> Would you not see it as MURDER. We now have premeditation and if the 
> intent to kill is not even mildly malicious I do not know what is.

I could never actually kill someone, so it wouldn't happen anyway.
I could see myself *charged* with murder, but that doesn't make it so.
As for the maliciousness, it's just like some government agents giving
someone the electric chair.

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