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"Doctor Thomas B. Who" <wa3...@bellatlantic.net> writes:

> I need someone's help!  A few hours ago I was working on a .MAP of my house.
> It was going alright, and looking good.  3D mode worked fine.  Then I tried
> to put in a 'table' that I was going to make into a sink...and then when I
> tried to go into 3D mode, the graphics were all smeared, like I was trying
> to walk out of the level with dnclip in Atomic Edition.  I removed the table
> (and later I tried removing that whole sector) but my level's still messed
> up!  Even when trying to open it in Duke, it still is unplayable!!  I have
> no idea what could have happened, can someone help?  Or possibly try to
> salvage it?

I'm sorry to tell you that it's pretty hard to fix.  Sometimes maps
just rip.  I find that sector copy is especially prone to causing it,
but so darn useful that I use it anyways.

The map I have lately been working on ripped worse than that.  I kept
fixing specific sector problems, other problems kept reappearing.  And
I was getting some paradoxical walls without sectors and other
severely confused areas.

What I ended up doing was copying most of a backup copy, plus the new
stuff from the ripped version, into a fresh map with sector copy.
Took about 2 hours, but it seems fixed.

One piece of advice, make frequent backups.

> My email address is wa3...@bellatlantic.net so email me if you want me to
> send it to you.  Thanks!

I'll see what I can do.  It would be easier if you put it on the web
and posted the url.

-- 
Tom Breton at panix.com, username tehom.  http://www.panix.com/~tehom

Nevermind, I started the level again from scratch and it's looking better
than ever.

I also put a few messages in here and there, for those who like those sorts
of things.  (Pascal Rouaud inspired me :-)  There's one in there that's sure
gonna sting a certain actor I know in the ass...

Doctor Thomas B. Who <wa3dhb@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
news:kkZZa.237$jw4.5@nwrdny03.gnilink.net...
> I need someone's help!  A few hours ago I was working on a .MAP of my
house.
> It was going alright, and looking good.  3D mode worked fine.  Then I
tried
> to put in a 'table' that I was going to make into a sink...and then when I
> tried to go into 3D mode, the graphics were all smeared, like I was trying
> to walk out of the level with dnclip in Atomic Edition.  I removed the
table
> (and later I tried removing that whole sector) but my level's still messed
> up!  Even when trying to open it in Duke, it still is unplayable!!  I have
> no idea what could have happened, can someone help?  Or possibly try to
> salvage it?
>
> My email address is wa3dhb@bellatlantic.net so email me if you want me to
> send it to you.  Thanks!
>
>

Never ever try to delete an inner loop by overlapping all of its vertexes.
That screws the level up permanently.  That's most likely what I did.

Tom Breton <tehom@REMOVEpanNOSPAMix.com> wrote in message
news:m3smo67bao.fsf@panix.com...
> "Doctor Thomas B. Who" <wa3dhb@bellatlantic.net> writes:
>
> > I need someone's help!  A few hours ago I was working on a .MAP of my
house.
> > It was going alright, and looking good.  3D mode worked fine.  Then I
tried
> > to put in a 'table' that I was going to make into a sink...and then when
I
> > tried to go into 3D mode, the graphics were all smeared, like I was
trying
> > to walk out of the level with dnclip in Atomic Edition.  I removed the
table
> > (and later I tried removing that whole sector) but my level's still
messed
> > up!  Even when trying to open it in Duke, it still is unplayable!!  I
have
> > no idea what could have happened, can someone help?  Or possibly try to
> > salvage it?
>
> I'm sorry to tell you that it's pretty hard to fix.  Sometimes maps
> just rip.  I find that sector copy is especially prone to causing it,
> but so darn useful that I use it anyways.
>
> The map I have lately been working on ripped worse than that.  I kept
> fixing specific sector problems, other problems kept reappearing.  And
> I was getting some paradoxical walls without sectors and other
> severely confused areas.
>
> What I ended up doing was copying most of a backup copy, plus the new
> stuff from the ripped version, into a fresh map with sector copy.
> Took about 2 hours, but it seems fixed.
>
> One piece of advice, make frequent backups.
>
> > My email address is wa3dhb@bellatlantic.net so email me if you want me
to
> > send it to you.  Thanks!
>
> I'll see what I can do.  It would be easier if you put it on the web
> and posted the url.
>
> --
> Tom Breton at panix.com, username tehom.  http://www.panix.com/~tehom