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Started by N
Tue, 28 Jun 2005 00:42
Driver Question. Is this advice right?
Author: N
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 00:42
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 00:42
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I was late to join the Doom 3 bandwagon and just recently picked up the
game. It's been fun until today. I got to the end of Alpha Lab 4 (?),
killed the big spider thing and exited the level. After the little
screen shot comes up describing the next level, where the little bar of
the top would show the progress in loading the next level, the screen
goes back to the main menu.
I installed the latest patch with no luck, so I called tech support.
Below is the e-mail of what the tech suggested I should do;
Recently you requested personal assistance from our on-line support
center. Below is a summary of your request and our response.
We will assume your issue has been resolved if we do not hear from you
within 96 hours.
Thank you for allowing us to be of service to you.
PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL!
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It reverts me back to the main menu after loading a level
Discussion Thread
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Response (xxx xxxxx) - 06/27/2005 05:00 PM
Hi,
Thanks for contacting customer support. Download and install the latest
driver for your video card, which is the 5.6 Catalyst here:
http://www.ati.com
If that does not help, uninstall the game (use the game installer, not
Add/Remove Programs) then reinstall the game and follow these steps to
copy over your pak files:
Copy the pak files from the cd and overwriting the ones on the hard drive.
1. Put the first disc in the drive
2. Go into my computer and right click on the disc and select "explore"
or "browse"
3. Browse into the setup folder, then the data folder
4. Right click on the base folder and select copy
5. Close this window
6. Now browse to the game directory (default is c:\program files\Doom 3)
7. Go to the edit menu and select paste (if it asks you if you wish to
overwrite select yes)
Once the file copy is done repeat the above steps for discs 2 and 3.
Customer (Entered by xxxxxxxx) - 06/27/2005 05:00 PM
It reverts me back to the main menu after loading a level
Question Reference xxxxxxxxxx
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Product Level 1: PC
Product Level 2: DOOM 3
Date Created: 06/27/2005 05:00 PM
Last Updated: 06/27/2005 05:00 PM
Status: Waiting
Explanation
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Ok, here's my Question. They are telling me to download the 5.6
Catalyst, but my driver version is 6.14. Is the castalyst version
supposed to be different from the driver version? Or do I have the
latest drivers already?
here's my rig
Radeon 9600 pro (256 MB)
P4 3.06ghz (2 CPU's)
512MB RAM
298MB used, 949 available (page file)
Re: Driver Question. Is this advice right?
Author: SnoopJeDi
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 03:11
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 03:11
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N wasted my time on 6/27/2005 8:42 PM with the following: > > Ok, here's my Question. They are telling me to download the 5.6 > Catalyst, but my driver version is 6.14. Is the castalyst version > supposed to be different from the driver version? Or do I have the > latest drivers already? > > here's my rig > > Radeon 9600 pro (256 MB) > P4 3.06ghz (2 CPU's) > 512MB RAM > 298MB used, 949 available (page file) I recommend heading to www.omegadrivers.net and getting those instead. They just plain work better. -- -SnoopJeDi
Re: Driver Question. Is this advice right?
Author: The Berzerker
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:35
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:35
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> Ok, here's my Question. They are telling me to download the 5.6 Catalyst, > but my driver version is 6.14. Is the castalyst version supposed to be > different from the driver version? Or do I have the latest drivers > already? > > here's my rig > > Radeon 9600 pro (256 MB) > P4 3.06ghz (2 CPU's) > 512MB RAM > 298MB used, 949 available (page file) Yes, update your drivers. That version number (6.4) is not related in a way that you could simply compare the two. Take the others guys advice and use the latest Omega Drivers. It sounds like you probably haven't updated your drivers in a while, so it may not only fix your level problem, but also give you a nice performance increase.
Re: Driver Question. Is this advice right?
Author: Inglo
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:26
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:26
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On 6/28/2005 5:35 AM The Berzerker brightened our day with: >>Ok, here's my Question. They are telling me to download the 5.6 Catalyst, >>but my driver version is 6.14. Is the castalyst version supposed to be >>different from the driver version? Or do I have the latest drivers >>already? >> >>here's my rig >> >>Radeon 9600 pro (256 MB) >>P4 3.06ghz (2 CPU's) >>512MB RAM >>298MB used, 949 available (page file) >> >> > >Yes, update your drivers. That version number (6.4) is not related in a way >that you could simply compare the two. > >Take the others guys advice and use the latest Omega Drivers. It sounds like >you probably haven't updated your drivers in a while, so it may not only fix >your level problem, but also give you a nice performance increase. > > > > The latest Catalysts 5.x are video driver version 8.x, version 6.14 (the numbers after 6.14 are important) go all the way back to the 3.x catalysts. So the drivers could be two years old. If he looks through his Video control panel a bit he can find his actual catalyst version. I think on those old drivers, pre CCC, it's just listed under the options tab. -- "I don't feel tardy" Steve ¤»Inglo«¤ www.inglostadt.com
Re: Driver Question. Is this advice right?
Author: Marcus Torrent
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:45
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:45
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N wrote: > I was late to join the Doom 3 bandwagon and just recently picked up > the game. It's been fun until today. I got to the end of Alpha Lab 4 > (?), killed the big spider thing and exited the level. After the > little screen shot comes up describing the next level, where the > little bar > of the top would show the progress in loading the next level, the > screen goes back to the main menu. If drivers do not help you: to upgrade or downgrade then I guess it is the known ATIs Fast Writing setting what is enable by default in theirs driver and disable in Omega drivers, and why Omega drivers works and ATI's own not. So, Fast Writing sounds like you get huge speed or this is important setting and _need_ to be enable. But in seriously it is a relic in dinosaurus dynasty when ppl had only AGP X1 speed. By 3DMarkxx benchmark you can get 2 - 4 marks better number when Fast Write is enable but in ATIs case it is better to disable. This blank screen what you get is like "you lost video signal". Right? Or in other way you got delay, black screen, back to Desktop and then some pop-up window tell that ATI's genius corretion stealth or something is protecting you and after pressing this you can get back to your game. I do not remember its name. You can let it be enable. It is better evil than crass directly to Desktop. Where to find then this Fast Write? Some BIOS had this setting but now I am talking ATI display menus. I have know 6800 GT and cannot help the right place. But I have had 9600 Pro (Club 3D shit) and I remember very good this ATI bug. I waste 3 month to correct it. I played and cryed why any game didn't work. After this Fast Write to disable games worked fine - in 9600 Pro poor speed of course.
Re: Driver Question. Is this advice right?
Author: N
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 00:58
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 00:58
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Marcus Torrent wrote: > N wrote: > >>I was late to join the Doom 3 bandwagon and just recently picked up >>the game. It's been fun until today. I got to the end of Alpha Lab 4 >>(?), killed the big spider thing and exited the level. After the >>little screen shot comes up describing the next level, where the >>little bar >>of the top would show the progress in loading the next level, the >>screen goes back to the main menu. > > > If drivers do not help you: to upgrade or downgrade then I guess it is > the known ATIs Fast Writing setting what is enable by default in theirs > driver and disable in Omega drivers, and why Omega drivers works and > ATI's own not. > > So, Fast Writing sounds like you get huge speed or this is important > setting and _need_ to be enable. But in seriously it is a relic in > dinosaurus dynasty when ppl had only AGP X1 speed. By 3DMarkxx benchmark > you can get 2 - 4 marks better number when Fast Write is enable but in > ATIs case it is better to disable. > > This blank screen what you get is like "you lost video signal". Right? > Or in other way you got delay, black screen, back to Desktop and then > some pop-up window tell that ATI's genius corretion stealth or something > is protecting you and after pressing this you can get back to your game. > I do not remember its name. You can let it be enable. It is better evil > than crass directly to Desktop. I'm not sure what you mean. I get the load screen for the next level, but the little progress bar never starts, it kicks over to the main (begining) level. > > Where to find then this Fast Write? Some BIOS had this setting but now I > am talking ATI display menus. I have know 6800 GT and cannot help the > right place. But I have had 9600 Pro (Club 3D shit) and I remember very > good this ATI bug. I waste 3 month to correct it. I played and cryed why > any game didn't work. After this Fast Write to disable games worked > fine - in 9600 Pro poor speed of course. > >
Re: Driver Question. Is this advice right?
Author: N
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 01:00
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 01:00
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SnoopJeDi wrote: > N wasted my time on 6/27/2005 8:42 PM with the following: > >> >> Ok, here's my Question. They are telling me to download the 5.6 >> Catalyst, but my driver version is 6.14. Is the castalyst version >> supposed to be different from the driver version? Or do I have the >> latest drivers already? >> >> here's my rig >> >> Radeon 9600 pro (256 MB) >> P4 3.06ghz (2 CPU's) >> 512MB RAM >> 298MB used, 949 available (page file) > > > I recommend heading to www.omegadrivers.net and getting those instead. > They just plain work better. > I'm game to try them; However, How do I make sure I don't bugger everything up on my machine now? What's the safest way to do it?
Re: Driver Question. Is this advice right?
Author: N
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 01:01
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 01:01
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The Berzerker wrote: >>Ok, here's my Question. They are telling me to download the 5.6 Catalyst, >>but my driver version is 6.14. Is the castalyst version supposed to be >>different from the driver version? Or do I have the latest drivers >>already? >> >>here's my rig >> >>Radeon 9600 pro (256 MB) >>P4 3.06ghz (2 CPU's) >>512MB RAM >>298MB used, 949 available (page file) > > > Yes, update your drivers. That version number (6.4) is not related in a way > that you could simply compare the two. > > Take the others guys advice and use the latest Omega Drivers. It sounds like > you probably haven't updated your drivers in a while, so it may not only fix > your level problem, but also give you a nice performance increase. > > No luck in fixing the problem, I guess i'm going to have to uninstall and reinstall then overwrite the pak files. Damit. What kind of performance increase can I expect?
Re: Driver Question. Is this advice right?
Author: Dan C
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 01:49
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 01:49
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On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 01:00:08 +0000, N wrote: > I'm game to try them; However, How do I make sure I don't bugger > everything up on my machine now? What's the safest way to do it? The "safest" thing for you to do is to just pull the plug on the computer now, box it up, and return it to the store. Anything else sounds like it will be beyond your abilities. -- If you're not on the edge, you're taking up too much space. Linux Registered User #327951
Re: Driver Question. Is this advice right?
Author: SnoopJeDi
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 01:50
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 01:50
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N wasted my time on 6/29/2005 9:00 PM with the following: > > I'm game to try them; However, How do I make sure I don't bugger > everything up on my machine now? What's the safest way to do it? Make a checkpoint with system restore if you feel it's necessary. The Omegadrivers are based off of the latest Catalysts, so it shouldn't even be a risk. It's basically tweaking them (ie. turning FastWrite off, etc.) If all else fails, I think you could just boot to safe mode and fix it. -- -SnoopJeDi
Re: Driver Question. Is this advice right?
Author: N
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 02:09
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 02:09
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SnoopJeDi wrote: > N wasted my time on 6/29/2005 9:00 PM with the following: > >> >> I'm game to try them; However, How do I make sure I don't bugger >> everything up on my machine now? What's the safest way to do it? > > > Make a checkpoint with system restore if you feel it's necessary. The > Omegadrivers are based off of the latest Catalysts, so it shouldn't even > be a risk. It's basically tweaking them (ie. turning FastWrite off, etc.) > > If all else fails, I think you could just boot to safe mode and fix it. > Can do. Thanks.
Re: Driver Question. Is this advice right?
Author: The Berzerker
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:41
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:41
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>> Yes, update your drivers. That version number (6.4) is not related in a >> way that you could simply compare the two. >> >> Take the others guys advice and use the latest Omega Drivers. It sounds >> like you probably haven't updated your drivers in a while, so it may not >> only fix your level problem, but also give you a nice performance >> increase. > No luck in fixing the problem, I guess i'm going to have to uninstall and > reinstall then overwrite the pak files. Damit. > > What kind of performance increase can I expect? It's hard to know what to tell you. When the 4.9 catalyst drivers came out they boosted Doom 3 quite considerably. This was probably the biggest performance step from driver to driver. However, when I installed the Omega Drivers based around the catalyst's of that time, I received an extra 10fps, on top of what the ATI's already gave me! This is using a 9800 Pro though. So, I really can't be sure how it'll help you. Either way, if you're currently using 3.x Cataylst drivers you'll certainly see a performance boost when updating. The drivers you're using are incredibly old, and will show it when trying to run some of the most recent games. Good Luck....... hope all your problems are solved.
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