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Michael-NC wrote:
> OK, D3 is an extension of D1 and it's just what Id wanted huh? How
> the hell you can argue that when you compare what Q2 was to Q1 and
> what Q3 was and still is to Q2 is beyond me. Id laid a giant egg, the
> game is a steaming pile of dung and that's why it's being soundly
> trashed on boards from coast to coast. There has never been a more
> highly anticipated and wildly hyped title from a major developer that
> has sucked so bad as D3. While they were screwing around with this
> game for years, other titles, such as Farcry and Painkiller have
> shown us the future of the FPS and Id is sucking wind. How the mighty
> have fallen...

I recall hearing sounds very like you're making when iD released Quake.
Then Quake2.  Then Quake3.  There is always something 'wrong' and there
is always somebody to pound it in.  Were you in a.g.q back then?  Sure
sounds familiar.

Look, I've read a lot of your posts the last couple days.  Tried to talk
with you about hardware stuff, now about Doom3 itself a bit.  Through
all of this, you come off as if you're angry.  You seemed to put effort
into getting others on the defensive.  If you'd like a good
conversation, great.  You can have better than you're getting, I'll
assure you of that.
Michael McCollum

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> "Blaedmon" <ass@hell.com> wrote in message
> news:cf6qmt$2ri9$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
>> I could go on about the amusing, yet completely purile, arguments
>> 'against' you've made, but I think we'd all agree that'd be far too
>> easy. Point made simple: do you think id would spend 6 years or
>> whatever making a game the way they DIDNT intend it to be? No, of
>> course not. Their end product IS what they intended. Still want to
>> whinge? Then you're an idiot.
>> They didnt 'miss' any target. They hit it and blew the fucking thing
>> up as far as logic goes.
>> It isnt an updated DOOM? Yes..yes it is. Get glasses or an IQ at
>> least a margin higher than room temperature.
>> I'm not old enough to remember DOOM? Yes...yes I am. And besides,
>> dont make statements that make YOU sound like a dickhead. Thats
>> hardly the aim of an insult. Read up on it. 'Insults for dickheads'
>> is good I hear.
>> They wont make a milestone in gaming history? Yes...yes they will.
>> In fact, they have - past tense.
>> Putting it simpler - its a game in which you shoot things. Thats its
>> core. If you go beyond that, it is no longer DOOM. Its merely an
>> updated version of a past technology, in which it does NOT
>> transgress from its base interactive fundamentals.
>> In essence, I guess I can end this silly little discussion by simply
>> saying - you're a dickhead. I think that just fits perfectly and is
>> stated as eloquently as manners permit.
>>
>>
>> "gorak" <nooo@nooo.it> wrote in message
>> news:3vBRc.90055$OR2.4822858@news3.tin.it...
>>>> Hey you Dickheads... stop whinging about the game being 'oh just
>>>> another fps' where u walk around corridors and nothing new
>>>> happens. Are you stupid?
>>>> Its called DOOM3 - maybe it has something to do with DOOM?
>>>> Remember that game? Did u expect to frolick around in large open
>>>> plains while collecting
>>>> magic pixie dust and bonus powerups? My God some people can be
>>>> obtuse. In DOOM all u did was shoot shit.
>>>
>>> Hey, in DOOM there was large open plains full of powerups!!! How
>>> old are you?
>>> I don't think that in Doom3 there should be open plains, but your
>>> arguments are wrong.
>>>
>>>> Now lets see... DOOM3 is merely an updated
>>>
>>> Yes but the gameplay isn't UP TO DATE...it's years old, that's the
>>> point. Update a game don't means update only the graphics engine...
>>> In fact they update the gameplay but it's just not meet the today
>>> standards.
>>> So it's looks like they tried...missing the target,  bit more than
>>> another id's
>>> "new engine promotional game"
>>>
>>>> DOOM... so lets have a guess that its basically the same scenerio.
>>>> Get it?
>>>> Fucking freaks.
>>>
>>> I don't think you are old enough to remember the first doom.
>>> Same scenerio don't means same repetitive gameplay.
>>> Oh yes you can do it and make a good game with a massive commercial
>>> success,
>>> but you don't create a new milestone in game history (as we was
>>> hoping).