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Re: OT: Trump

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From: Ahem A Rivets Shot
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 21:04
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Peter Flass <peter...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <ste...@eircom.net> wrote:

> >> i.e. they basically reinvented waterfall...
> > 
> > 	The key principles behind agile are "don't bite off more than
> > you can chew" and "keep making it better" or more formally work out the
> > smallest useful thing that can be delivered and deliver it and go back
> > round the loop. 
> 
> This was supposed to be something new and origial???

	Not until people started publishing books and setting up training
courses, up until that point it was just what successful development
projects did instead of collected several reams of requirements documents,
generating more reams of specifications and design acceptance documents
(that nobody could understand, but signed off on anyway[1]) followed by even
more reams of design documents and then finally writing a bunch of code
that did everything except what was needed. Which is what most of the
spectacularly expensive failed IT projects did.

	These days in most places the core principles are unknown but there
are scrum masters and agile coaches and people doing daily standups,
writing user stories, playing planning poker, doing retrospectives and
missing the point completely.

[1] On one occasion I received a courtesy copy of such a design acceptance
document (produced as part of the SSADM methodology). Stacked on the floor
it was higher than the desks, reading it required spreading it out five
sheets at a time and following the cross-references. I got through about a
dozen sets before I got sick of enumerating the errors - a week later it was
signed off. The project only succeeded because we paid lip service to the
formal process and did the job our way.

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