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On Sun, 15 Jul 2018 15:00:40 -0400, Peter Flass
<peter...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Ahem A Rivet's Shot <ste...@eircom.net> wrote:
>> On 15 Jul 2018 11:58:30 GMT
>> Niklas Karlsson <ank...@yahoo.se> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2018-07-13, Scott <nob...@example.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> And to me...and I'm supposed to know what I'm doing. This obsession
>>>> with updating all the software all the time, for one. I've never seen
>>>> such ardor for installing new bugs as quickly as possible. Best
>>>> Practices, so they say....
>>> 
>>> Perhaps an extension of the "agile" mentality.
>> 
>> 	Agile was a good principle used by many successful teams way back
>> before it had a name (even before 'extreme programming', then some idiots
>> formalised it and it grew a whole pile of procedural garbage.
>> 
>>> Google invented what they call Google Sprints, where you have a
>>> design/planning phase before you get to coding and shipping.
>> 
>> 	One of the good bits of the sprint approach is that you are
>> supposed to ensure that 'user stories' are only accepted into a sprint of
>> they are properly defined, the tasks and acceptance criteria worked out and
>> there are no blockers. IME this never happens, instead all too often it's
>> whatever manglement wants next that goes in no matter how badly defined or
>> infeasible it is.
>> 
>>> i.e. they basically reinvented waterfall...
>> 
>> 	The key principles behind agile are "don't bite off more than you
>> can chew" and "keep making it better" or more formally work out the smallest
>> useful thing that can be delivered and deliver it and go back round the
>> loop. 
>
>This was supposed to be something new and original???
>
>> This tends to be forgotten in the whole business of setting up scrums
>> and sprints with sprint planning and retrospectives and backlog grooming
>> and scrum masters and all the other bumpf.

The department I work in has been agile for a decade or more.  The
trouble is we never called it "agile" and never called sprints
"sprints" we called the scrum master "boss" now we're having to
scramble to get all the bumpf in place to convince the PHBs of it so
we get back to actually doing work.