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Article #624951Re: 1958 Crisis in education
From: Peter Flass
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2018 22:16
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2018 22:16
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JimP <solo...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 11:55:49 -0400, Peter Flass <peter...@yahoo.com> > wrote: > >> Peter Flass <peter...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> Michael Black <mbl...@pubnix.net> wrote: >>>> On Thu, 2 Aug 2018, Jorgen Grahn wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Thu, 2018-07-26, Questor wrote: >>>>> ... >>>>>> In the 1980s, Usenet was *explicitly* designed and operated such >>>>>> that posts were ephemeral. Newsfeed retention times were measured >>>>>> in days, not years or even months. While it wasn't impossible to >>>>>> imagine otherwise, at the time it would have been an exercise in >>>>>> pure fantasy to do so. >>>>> >>>>> I still remember how angry I was when DejaNews popped up. Not because >>>>> they archived Usenet, but because they made the archive /searchable/. >>>>> In my mind, part of the social contract was that you had to be there >>>>> at the time. >>>>> >> >> From the earliest days BitNet LISTSERVs archived all messages. The user >> interface was clunky ( batch-oriented), but I seem to recall it allowed >> searching. > > I don't remember it archiving, I was on I-Amiga. > [from memory] Retrieve a list of archive files (perhaps one per month, week, or so) TELL LISTSERV AT xxx INDEX listname Retrieve one of the archives TELL LISTSERV AT xxx GET listname archivename I think there was a search. Actually, Listserv is (AFAIK) still available using internet connections. -- Pete
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