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Article #624950Re: 1958 Crisis in education
From: JimP
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2018 18:25
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2018 18:25
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On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 11:55:49 -0400, Peter Flass <peter...@yahoo.com> wrote: >Peter Flass <peter...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> Michael Black <mbl...@pubnix.net> wrote: >>> On Thu, 2 Aug 2018, Jorgen Grahn wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, 2018-07-26, Questor wrote: >>>> ... >>>>> In the 1980s, Usenet was *explicitly* designed and operated such >>>>> that posts were ephemeral. Newsfeed retention times were measured >>>>> in days, not years or even months. While it wasn't impossible to >>>>> imagine otherwise, at the time it would have been an exercise in >>>>> pure fantasy to do so. >>>> >>>> I still remember how angry I was when DejaNews popped up. Not because >>>> they archived Usenet, but because they made the archive /searchable/. >>>> In my mind, part of the social contract was that you had to be there >>>> at the time. >>>> > >>From the earliest days BitNet LISTSERVs archived all messages. The user >interface was clunky ( batch-oriented), but I seem to recall it allowed >searching. I don't remember it archiving, I was on I-Amiga.
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