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Article #624952Re: 1958 Crisis in education
From: JimP
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2018 18:20
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2018 18:20
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On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 18:16:36 -0400, Peter Flass <peter...@yahoo.com> wrote: >JimP <solo...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 11:55:49 -0400, Peter Flass <peter...@yahoo.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Peter Flass <peter...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> Michael Black <mbl...@pubnix.net> wrote: >>>>> On Thu, 2 Aug 2018, Jorgen Grahn wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, 2018-07-26, Questor wrote: >>>>>> ... >>>>>>> In the 1980s, Usenet was *explicitly* designed and operated such >>>>>>> that posts were ephemeral. Newsfeed retention times were measured >>>>>>> in days, not years or even months. While it wasn't impossible to >>>>>>> imagine otherwise, at the time it would have been an exercise in >>>>>>> pure fantasy to do so. >>>>>> >>>>>> I still remember how angry I was when DejaNews popped up. Not because >>>>>> they archived Usenet, but because they made the archive /searchable/. >>>>>> In my mind, part of the social contract was that you had to be there >>>>>> at the time. >>>>>> >>> >>> From the earliest days BitNet LISTSERVs archived all messages. The user >>> interface was clunky ( batch-oriented), but I seem to recall it allowed >>> searching. >> >> I don't remember it archiving, I was on I-Amiga. >> > >[from memory] >Retrieve a list of archive files (perhaps one per month, week, or so) >TELL LISTSERV AT xxx INDEX listname > >Retrieve one of the archives >TELL LISTSERV AT xxx GET listname archivename > >I think there was a search. > >Actually, Listserv is (AFAIK) still available using internet connections. The I-Amiga list is now on a private server, I don't know about the rest.
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