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In article <slrnpe1odi.31ka.grahn+nntp@frailea.sa.invalid>,
Jorgen Grahn  <grahn...@snipabacken.se> wrote:
>On Wed, 2018-04-25, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>> In article <slrnpe04sd.31ka.grahn+nntp@frailea.sa.invalid>,
>> Jorgen Grahn  <grahn...@snipabacken.se> wrote:
>>>On Tue, 2018-04-24, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 07:40:30 -0700
>>>> Peter Flass <peter...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <ste...@eircom.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> > 	Whereas my old PC (about five years old now) works fine and has
>>>>> > fully up to date software (OS and applications) that also works fine and
>>>>> > does the right thing with 30 year old data files (my oldest) as well as
>>>>> > ones from today. I've had a consistent UI of my choice for over twenty
>>>>> > years now.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Obviously not windows, then.
>>>>
>>>> 	Nope FreeBSD, but I could do the same with OpenBSD, NetBSD,
>>>> DragonFlyBSD and any number of Linux distributions (probably with somewhat
>>>> more effort than any of the BSDs).
>>>
>>>About the same effort, I think.  You just don't install the packages
>>>which do untraditional things (the various desktops, "NetworkManager"
>>>and so on).
>>>
>>
>> I run e16 as my window manager on FreeBSD.  All I really want is something
>> that gives me multiple desktops and lets me open xterms and a few gui
>> apps (gimp, firefox etc from a menu).
>
>Same use case as mine (although I use ctwm).
>
>> It's pretty easy to set up every time I load a new version.
>>
>> I gave up trying to do that on Ubuntu (which I had to use on a work laptop).
>> Their useless GUI was just too intertwined with everything and it kept 
>> fighting me.
>
>I ran Debian that way at work for a while (xfce as the desktop I
>think) and it was surprisingly like a bad Windows clone -- things like
>the normal config files being ignored, because they were overridden by
>Control Panel-like GUI tools.
>
>But see above -- uninstall that crud, and Ubuntu is really a normal
>Unix.  (You have to know /what/ to uninstall, though, perhaps by
>following the "depends on" chain from a package you really hate, until
>you find the first you know you want to keep.)
>
>/Jorgen
>

yeah, now that I don't need the thing for work, I could probably fool with
it some more without worrying about leaving it unusable for while.  Maybe
I should just load the server version and build up from that rather than
starting with the destkop version.
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