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On Wed, 2018-04-25, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
> In article <slrnpe04sd.31ka.grahn+nntp@frailea.sa.invalid>,
> Jorgen Grahn  <grahn...@snipabacken.se> wrote:
>>On Tue, 2018-04-24, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>>> On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 07:40:30 -0700
>>> Peter Flass <peter...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <ste...@eircom.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> > 	Whereas my old PC (about five years old now) works fine and has
>>>> > fully up to date software (OS and applications) that also works fine and
>>>> > does the right thing with 30 year old data files (my oldest) as well as
>>>> > ones from today. I've had a consistent UI of my choice for over twenty
>>>> > years now.
>>>> 
>>>> Obviously not windows, then.
>>>
>>> 	Nope FreeBSD, but I could do the same with OpenBSD, NetBSD,
>>> DragonFlyBSD and any number of Linux distributions (probably with somewhat
>>> more effort than any of the BSDs).
>>
>>About the same effort, I think.  You just don't install the packages
>>which do untraditional things (the various desktops, "NetworkManager"
>>and so on).
>>
>
> I run e16 as my window manager on FreeBSD.  All I really want is something
> that gives me multiple desktops and lets me open xterms and a few gui
> apps (gimp, firefox etc from a menu).

Same use case as mine (although I use ctwm).

> It's pretty easy to set up every time I load a new version.
>
> I gave up trying to do that on Ubuntu (which I had to use on a work laptop).
> Their useless GUI was just too intertwined with everything and it kept 
> fighting me.

I ran Debian that way at work for a while (xfce as the desktop I
think) and it was surprisingly like a bad Windows clone -- things like
the normal config files being ignored, because they were overridden by
Control Panel-like GUI tools.

But see above -- uninstall that crud, and Ubuntu is really a normal
Unix.  (You have to know /what/ to uninstall, though, perhaps by
following the "depends on" chain from a package you really hate, until
you find the first you know you want to keep.)

/Jorgen

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