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Bronislaw Kozicki <bronek@wpi.com.pl> wrote:
: Zdecydowanie nie masz racji. Przeczytaj sobie
: <http://www.microsoft.com/kb/articles/q129/5/93.htm>
: zanim znowu cos na ten temat palniesz.

Drogi chlopcze!  Jeszcze przed przeczytaniem w/w artykulu na serwerze
Microsoft zmuszony jestem zwrocic Ci uwage, ze jesli jeszcze raz wyslesz
na liste usenet plik nazwany "WINMAIL.DAT" (w zalaczeniu), zmuszony bede
Ci go odeslac w ilosci 1000000 (slownie: jeden milion) egzemplarzy na
Twoja skrzynke pocztowa. 
Poza tym prosze o cytowanie listow przed, a nie po Twojej madrych
wypowiedziach. Madrych, chociaz znacznie krotszych niz "WINMAIL.DAT".

Obiecany zalacznik: 
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Bronislaw Kozicki <bronek@wpi.com.pl> wrote:
: Zdecydowanie nie masz racji. Przeczytaj sobie
: <http://www.microsoft.com/kb/articles/q129/5/93.htm>
: zanim znowu cos na ten temat palniesz.


Szanowni Panstwo! Przeczytalem powyzszy artykul kilkukrotnie.
Nadal mi sie wydaje, ze NT Server niczym sie nie rozni od NT Workstation, jesli
chodzi o system operacyjny (a nie dodatkowe mozliwosci, ktore mozna wlaczyc).
Czyli nie ma mowy o optymalizacji, o jakichkolwiek _roznicach_, bo to jest po
prostu _to samo_. Poza oczywiscie wspomnianymi juz wielokrotnie na liscie
ograniczeniami ponad 10 polaczen "inbound" - to po prostu wymusza na
uzytkownikach zakup znacznie drozszego produktu, jakim jest server, zamiast
stacji roboczej, ktora do serwowania by sie swietnie nadawala.
Prosze uwaznie przeczytac pierwsza wyliczanke, ktora pozornie zawiera roznice
pomiedzy serwerem a workstation, ale na koncu mowi, ze workstation uzywana jako
server dziala tak samo jak server 8:)
Bo reszta argumentow jest smieszna. VDM? A co szkodzi, zeby sie zaladowalo na
zyczenie? Chyba nawet lepiej dla workstation? Watki? Jak mozna optymalizowac
watki dla programow pracujacych na serwerze aplikacji - to znaczy czym ta
optymalizacja rozni sie od optymalizacji watkow programu po prostu
uruchamianego na stacji workstation?

Ale moze nie znam angielskiego i sie myle? Nic nie rozumiem?

Dlatego:
Gdyby ktos znalazl jeszcze troche czasu na nasza dyskusje i po przeczytaniu
artykulu polecanego przez p. Bronislawa Kozickiego, ktory zalaczam ponizej,
powiedzial, czy server bez uaktywnionej sieci rozni sie czymkolwiek od
workstation czy tez nie? 

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                        Windows NT Workstation and Server Optimized For
                        Different Role

                        Article ID: Q129593
                        Creation Date: 30-APR-1995
                        Revision Date: 03-SEP-1996

                        The information in this article applies to:
                           o Microsoft Windows NT Workstation version 3.5
                           o Microsoft Windows NT Server version 3.5
                           o Microsoft Windows NT Server version 4.0
                           o Microsoft Windows NT Workstation version 4.0

                        SUMMARY

                        This article discusses the roles for which Windows
                        NT Workstation and Windows NT Server are optimized.

                        MORE INFORMATION

                        Microsoft optimized both Windows NT Workstation and
                        Windows NT Server to better serve their intended
                        purposes. Windows NT Workstation is a great
                        corporate client for users who need the power,
                        scalability, fault tolerance, or security it
                        offers. Windows NT Server is a powerful server
                        environment for customers who want to leverage its
                        application server, file and print services, or
                        remote access capabilities. The following
                        optimizations were made in Windows NT version 3.5:
                           o The write-throttling mechanism (the point at
                             which dirty data is flushed to disk) is
                             implemented differently for the Windows NT
                             Server and Windows NT Workstation. This allows
                             the server to handle server-like loads and the
                             workstation to handle desktop-like tasks.
                           o The internal code that provides the Windows NT
                             Server server functionality (SRV.SYS) is less
                             pagable. This leads to better response times
                             under heavy server-type loads.
                           o Under Windows NT Workstation, the Windows NT
                             Virtual DOS Machine (VDM) is pre-loaded for
                             improved application startup times. Windows NT
                             Server does not pre-load the VDM, but instead
                             optimizes server file operations.
                           o Windows NT Workstation and Windows NT Server
                             use a different number of system worker
                             threads and threads for blocking operations.
                             Windows NT Server is optimized for fast server
                             type I/O operations and Windows NT Workstation
                             is optimized for desktop applications.
                           o Windows NT Server can be optimized for file
                             and print server performance or application
                             server performance, allowing you to tune it
                             for maximum throughput depending on the type
                             of server usage. Windows NT Workstation does
                             not have this feature. Internal testing has
                             also shown that Windows NT Workstation
                             performs about the same as Windows NT Server
                             up to approximately 10 different, simultaneous
                             inbound user connections. This enables Windows
                             NT Workstation to function well in a small
                             peer environment. Windows NT Server is the
                             correct choice if you want to deploy a server
                             in a larger environment or want to scale your
                             network in the future.

                        These optimizations changed the performance of
                        Windows NT Workstation when used as a server. As a
                        result, peer networking is still supported for
                        basic connectivity between users on a network. You
                        can still make unlimited outbound connections to
                        server resources. However, Windows NT Workstation
                        now supports a maximum of 10 simultaneous inbound
                        connections. Our research has shown that systems
                        with this many connections are almost always being
                        used as dedicated file, print and/or application
                        servers.

                        While Windows NT Server can certainly provide
                        excellent file and print services, it can also be
                        used extensively as an application server platform
                        for database and other services. The Windows NT
                        Server file and print capabilities can be
                        selectively implemented.

                        Windows NT Server includes the following
                        capabilities not available on Windows NT
                        Workstation:
                           o Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP)
                             server service (Both Windows NT Workstation
                             and Server have DHCP Protocol)
                           o Windows Internet Naming Service (WINS)
                           o Single network logon
                           o Data protection features (disk striping, RAID
                             5, disk mirroring)
                           o Remote Access Server service can handle 255
                             concurrent incoming calls (Windows NT
                             Workstation limited to one incoming call)
                           o Gateway Services for NetWare(GSNW)
                           o Gateway to NetWare file and print resources
                             for MS network clients
                           o Services for Macintosh (allows Macintosh
                             clients to access file and print resources on
                             the Windows NT Server, and allows Microsoft
                             network and Macintosh clients to access
                             AppleTalk-based printers)
                           o Netlogon request authentication (for running
                             logon scripts)
                           o Account lockout security
                           o Network Client Administrator
                           o Administrative tools (Server Manager, User
                             Manager for Domains)
                           o Support for remote boot of diskless
                             workstations (RPL)

                        Because Windows NT Server is optimized as a server
                        platform, it is required to run Microsoft
                        BackOffice products (Systems Management Server, SNA
                        Server, SQL Server, and the upcoming Exchange
                        Server).

                        Microsoft recommends Windows NT Workstation as a
                        desktop operating system and Windows NT Server as a
                        server operating system for server applications.
                        This provides you an environment that is
                        architecturally very clean, since both the desktop
                        and server are running the same operating system,
                        and have the same APIs, etc.


                         ę1996 Microsoft Corporation

- --ser


PS Przepraszam za poprzedni list w watku, ktory oczywiscie mial pojsc prywatna
poczta do p. Bronislawa Kozickiego, a nie na liste. Bardzzo mi glupio z tego
powodu.

- --s

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Kernel jest identyczny. Roznice to:

1. Optymalizacja (ustawienia w registry)
2. Serwery Microsoftu (SQL, Backoffice itp) dzialaja tylko na NTS.
3. NTW 4.0 licencja pozwala tylko na 10 uzytkownikow. Nie ma
zabezpieczen przed dostepem wiecej niz 10 uzytkownikow.
4. Serwery innych firm (np. Netscape) dzialaja na NTW (ale lamie sie tym
samym licencje, bo liczba uzytkownikow jest wieksza).
5. NTW 4.0 nie da sie juz tak latwo przestawiac na NTS 4.0. (bylo to
banalnie proste w NT 3.51).
6. Na CD z NTS jest cale mnostwo dodatkow, ktore mozna tez sciagnac z
MSN przez internet. 

 Wiec tak naprawde to za NTS placi sie wiecej, bo: licencja pozwala na
korzystanie wiekszej liczbie ludzi przez siec, dostepne sa serwery MS
(niby za darmo), no i jest optymalizacja na ustawienie NT jako serwer.
Wszystko po to, aby ubic konkurencje (Netscape).

Piotr

Piotr Kozbial <piotrk@ibbrain.ibb.waw.pl> wrote:
: Kernel jest identyczny. 

Dziekuje. To wlasnie chcialem uslyszec.

: Roznice to:

: 1. Optymalizacja (ustawienia w registry)

Ale tutaj znowu mam watpliwosci. O jaka optymalizacje chodzi?

: 2. Serwery Microsoftu (SQL, Backoffice itp) dzialaja tylko na NTS.

To juz ich problem.

: 3. NTW 4.0 licencja pozwala tylko na 10 uzytkownikow. Nie ma
: zabezpieczen przed dostepem wiecej niz 10 uzytkownikow.

Ale produkty sa identyczne.

: 5. NTW 4.0 nie da sie juz tak latwo przestawiac na NTS 4.0. (bylo to
: banalnie proste w NT 3.51).

Ale pytaniem rozpoczynajacym te dyskusje bylo: czy serwer to jest to samo
co workstation!! Odpowiedzialem: tak.
Dlatego odpowiadam po raz enty pytajacemu - TAK.

: 6. Na CD z NTS jest cale mnostwo dodatkow, ktore mozna tez sciagnac z
: MSN przez internet. 

Wlasnie. Mamy internet, bo korzystamy z newsow.

:  Wiec tak naprawde to za NTS placi sie wiecej, bo: licencja pozwala na
: korzystanie wiekszej liczbie ludzi przez siec, dostepne sa serwery MS
: (niby za darmo), no i jest optymalizacja na ustawienie NT jako serwer.

Jesli ta optymalizacja to kilka ustawien w registry, to moge na
workstation tak samo to zaprogramowac. Ale dalej nie rozumiem: co
optymalizujemy?

Wynika stad, ze po prostu ten sam produkt Microsoft sprzedaje za dwie
rozne ceny, a placi sie tylko za licencje. OK. Dziekuje.
To jestem w stanie zrozumiec. 
Nie namawiam nikogo do lamania prawa, ale jesli pytajacy chcial zaplacic
kilka razy wiecej i kupic serwer, a uzywac go jako workstation - wszyscy
mu to bez powodow odradzali... A nie poslugiwali sie argumentami
pienieznymi. Tylko radami na poziomie technicznym cioci Krysi.

: Wszystko po to, aby ubic konkurencje (Netscape).

Przepraszam, nie rozumiem, dlaczego brak roznic pomiedzy NT Server a NT
Workstation ma zniszczyc Netscape'a??

--ser

Sergiusz Pawlowicz wrote:

> 
> : Wszystko po to, aby ubic konkurencje (Netscape).
> 
> Przepraszam, nie rozumiem, dlaczego brak roznic pomiedzy NT Server a NT
> Workstation ma zniszczyc Netscape'a??
> 
> --ser

 Na NTW 3.51 mozna bylo zainstalowac serwery dowolnej firmy (np.
Netscape). Aby ludzie nie kupowali (taniego) NTW 4.0 i instalowali na
nim serwerow konkurencji, B. Gates wpadl na pomysl ograniczenia ilosci
uzytkownikow mogacych sie polaczyc z NTW do 10. W tej sytuacji stawianie
serwera na NTW 4.0 jest rownoznaczne ze zlamaniem licencji!!! Netscape
wytoczyla proces Microsoftowi, ale chyba go nie wygrala. Wiec legalna
opcja dla ludzi chcacych uzywac NT jako serwer jest wiec zakup NTS. Ale
placac za NTS tak naprawde placi sie wiecej bo sa "darmowe" serwery
Microsoftu. 
 Serwery Netscape (za darmo dla EDU) instaluja sie bez problemow na NTW
4.0 i same pytaja, czy akceptujemy zmiany (chyba tylko 2) w registry w
celu optymalizacji systemu na server.
 Wiecej o tym bylo gdzies (chyba, ale nie moge sie tam polaczyc -->
http://software.ora.com/news/ms_internet_andrews.html.)
Piotr

Oto roznice,



**************************************************************
Differences Between NT Server and Workstation are
Minimal

Registry Settings Used to Force Use of Microsoft Web Server

This page last updated September 8, 1996

Andrew Schulman
Senior Editor, O'Reilly & Associates
andrew@ora.com 

Much of the research discussed in this article was done by NT Internals
expert Dr. Mark Russinovich, a Consulting Associate
for Open System Resources, Inc. Russinovich is coauthor of numerous NT
systems utilities, such as the NT registry monitor, the
NT file monitor, and the NTFS file system for DOS. OSR specializes in
file system, device driver, and data communications
consulting, training, and development for Windows NT and other
platforms. Neither Dr. Russinovich nor OSR are responsible
for the conclusions drawn in this article.

This article has been written to describe and explain the differences
between Microsoft's Windows NT Server and NT
Workstation products, not for the purpose of encouraging readers to
defeat Microsoft's licensing restrictions. The author and
O'Reilly & Associates recommend that readers carefully review the terms
of Microsoft's NT license agreement and comply in all
respects therewith. 


Microsoft recently introduced version 4.0 of NT Workstation (NTW) and NT
Server (NTS), and claims that there are substantial
technical differences between the Workstation and Server products.
Microsoft uses this claim to justify an $800 price difference
between NTW and NTS, as well as legal limits on web server usage in NTW,
both of which have enormous impact on existing
NTW users. But what if the supposed technical differences at the heart
of NTW and NTS are mythical?

We have found that NTS and NTW have identical kernels; in fact, NT is a
single operating system with two modes. Only two
registry settings are needed to switch between these two modes in NT
4.0, and only one setting in NT 3.51. This is extremely
significant, and calls into question the related legal limitations and
costly upgrades that currently face NTW users.

Introduction
Identical Kernels
NT 3.51: ProductType registry setting
NT 4.0: ProductType and SystemPrefix registry settings
A Web Tax?

Introduction

In the course of the ongoing controversy over its restriction of only
ten web connections in NT Workstation 4.0, Microsoft
representatives have asserted that there are substantial technical
differences between NT Server and NT Workstation. From this,
Microsoft draws these conclusions: 

  1.that these differences justify the large price difference between
the two products (street prices: NT 4.0 Workstation $260,
    Server 4.0 w/ 5 client $730, Server 4.0 w/ 10 client $1080) 
  2.that third-party web servers such as O'Reilly WebSite or Netscape
Enterprise Server should not be run on top of the cheaper
    NT Workstation product, and 
  3.that customers should instead buy Microsoft's more expensive NT
Server product, which comes already bundled with a "free"
    web server, Microsoft Internet Information Server (IIS). IIS
competes with web servers from third-party vendors such as
    O'Reilly and Netscape. 

For example, Microsoft spokesman Mark Murray was quoted by Reuters: 

    "The crux of this issue is that NT Workstation and NT Server are two
very different products intended for two very
    different functions." 

In fact, the recent fight between Microsoft and Netscape, including
Netscape's open letter to U.S. Department of Justice's Antitrust
Division, was touched off when Microsoft sent email to Netscape,
complaining about a price comparison chart at Netscape's web
site. According to Microsoft's letter (July 30): 

    If the user wishes to utilize more than the ten [web] connections,
the user must license Windows NT server....
    Microsoft is also concerned that Netscape is deceiving customers by
suggesting that Windows NT Workstation is meant
    to be used as a server operating system for a Web site. It is not. 

So Microsoft has a lot invested in the widespread public perception of
crucial differences between NTS and NTW. As Microsoft
Executive VP Steve Ballmer told PC Week: 

    "It is a serious thing for us," said Ballmer. "We did about a
billion [dollars] in server revenue. What is the difference in
    price between the two--maybe 800 dollars. One of them costs 35
percent of what the other does. So if a billion dollars
    goes to $350 million--that is a big hit to this company." 

At the same time, even Microsoft's own document on Differences Between
Windows NT Workstation 4.0 and Windows NT
Server 4.0 (Microsoft Windows NT 4.0 Market Bulletin, Summer 1996)
admits that the two products share "the same kernel
architecture."

This raises the question of exactly how NTS and NTW really differ.

Microsoft's document goes on to say its NT strategy is "optimizing,
pricing, and licensing the products for two specific segments": 

    The difference in pricing is clear enough (NTS costs more than NTW). 
    As for licensing, Microsoft rather bizarrely defines "user" to
include anyone connecting to the machine via TCP/IP. As
    pointed out in InfoWorld, "the whole idea of having price points for
different numbers of Web hits (clients) is patently
    absurd." Certainly Microsoft, like any company, is entitled to a
price structure based on the number of LAN clients -- but for
    every user browsing your web site too?! As the InfoWorld article
notes, this "attempts to impose on the Internet the PC LAN
    server model of licensed client access." It is, in effect, an
attempt at a "web tax." 
    It's also well known that NTS is bundled with additional components
-- not only IIS, but also DNS, DHCP, WINS, and
    other services. For the most part, these services are not Microsoft
operating system innovations, but bundled applications that
    compete with freestanding applications from other vendors. Besides
HTTP web servers from companies such as Netscape
    and O'Reilly, MetaInfo has a commercial DNS that runs on both NTS
and NTW, and BIND 4.9.3 (the "reference"
    implementation of DNS) is available free, and runs on both WinNT and
Win95. There are FTP servers available for NT,
    some Telnet servers, SMTP servers, and so on. 

So we know that the licensing, pricing, and bundling of NTS and NTW are
different. But what does Microsoft mean by
optimizing? What sort of technical difference are we talking about here?
How specifically does the operating system itself differ
between NTS and NTW?

For the vast majority of those interested in using NT as a web server,
there is no functional difference. NTW, like Win95, will
work just fine for the vast majority of web sites: 

    all of the servers we've tested will easily saturate a T-1
connection (1.55M bps) to the Internet -- after which the
    performance differences become meaningless.
    Microsoft's license agreement for Workstation, therefore, is the
only thing keeping many organizations from using
    Workstation as a Web server.
    -- Eamonn Sullivan, "NT 4.0 license, not speed, is key", PC Week
Online, August 26, 1996 

Netscape estimates that 70% of its server customers using NT are in fact
using NT Workstation rather than NT Server. Microsoft
is claiming that most of these Netscape customers are in violation of
the NTW license agreement! For web publishers to stay within
the law, presumably they are supposed to get NTS with IIS.

So much for using NT as a web server. More generally, when you strip
away differences in pricing, licensing, and extra bundled
software like IIS, what are the real technical differences between NTS
and NTW?

Identical Kernels

It turns out that NTS and NTW not only share "the same kernel
architecture" (as Microsoft puts it), but in fact have identical
kernels: in NT 4.0, the exact same file, NTOSKRNL.EXE, is used for both
the Server and Workstation products. Likewise in NT
3.51.

Not only are the NTS and NTW kernels identical, but in both NT 3.51 and
4.0, whenever a binary file (EXE, DLL, device driver,
etc.) is provided with Workstation, the identical file is provided with
Server. This includes such core files as NTLDR,
NTOSKRNL.EXE, HAL.DLL, KERNEL32.DLL, NTDLL.DLL, SRV.SYS, TCPIP.SYS,
WINSOCK.DLL, NTLANMAN.DLL,
RASAUTH.DLL, NTFS.SYS, and so on. This was determined by looking not
only at filenames, date/timestamps, and filesizes, but
by doing a full binary comparison. NTS and NTW are merely two options
for running the exact same, byte-for-byte identical
operating system.

The setup/installation files (TXTSETUP.SIF, INF files, etc.) differ from
Workstation to Server, and Server comes with about 100
files that are not provided with Workstation. These additional files
include DHCP*.*, LICCPA.*, LLS*.*, NCADMIN.*, RPC*.*,
SFM*.*, SRVMGR.*, USRMGR.*, and WINS*.*, corresponding to the extras
bundled with Server such as DHCP and WINS.

To us, having some additional programs bundled with NTS no more gives it
a "very different function" from NTW, than the
combination of Windows 95 and "Windows Plus!" has a very different
function from plain Windows 95. All of Microsoft's
technical descriptions suggest that NTS is supposed to be something more
than NTW with some bundled add-ins.

It is doubtful that customers would feel good about paying approximately
$800 for what is essentially an "NT Plus!" add-in package
-- especially when Microsoft advertises that add-ins such as IIS come
for "free." If the only technical difference between NTS and
NTW were precisely these add-ins, then one could hardly call them free.
Given that NTS for 10 "clients" (however Microsoft
chooses to define that) costs $1080, while NTW costs $260, we figure
that Microsoft would actually be charging over $800 for
what is effectively "NT Plus!"

So, with identical kernels, how does NT distinguish these ostensibly
"very different products intended for two very different
functions"?

According to a course on NT internals at WinDev East '96 given by David
Solomon, a single function in NTOSKRNL.EXE called
MmIsThisAnNtAsSystem() is the decider. It is used at boot time to make
resource sizing decisions, and also at runtime for
certain policy decisions.

Starting with an examination of this function, Mark Russinovich found
something quite remarkable: the value that
MmIsThisAnNtAsSystem() returns (Workstation vs. Server) comes directly
out of the registry. In 3.51, a single registry setting is
used to differentiate between NTW and NTS. In 4.0, there are two
registry settings, and some code intended to prevent the user
from changing them.

That's it. By way of comparison, there is significantly less technical
difference between NT Server and Workstation than there was
between Win 3.1 Enhanced and Standard modes. Those were radically
different pieces of software, bundled together for one
remarkably low price. In contrast, Windows NT seems to be one piece of
software, artifically differentiated into two products with
wildly different prices. NT is one product, with two options: server and
workstation. The Server option comes with a package of
add-ins and with a license for more users.

But what of Microsoft's "optimizations"? Microsoft makes great claims
for how its tuning differentiates server and workstation
machines. It's clear that this tuning is not particularly useful for the
vast majority of web publishers (just as Microsoft's NTW
license seems irrelevant to those running web servers instead of LAN
servers). It's even been reported some of these
"optimizations" can actually hurt when a web site is running lots of CGI
programs, as opposed to delivering static web pages.

Microsoft has optimized NTS for LAN servers. But since NTS and NTW use
the same kernel, this optimization is based on
nothing more than checking the registry settings. MmIsThisAnNtAsSystem()
checks a global variable based on the registry settings,
and various parts of the kernel in turn call MMIsThisAnNtAsSystem(), and
behave slightly differently depending on this return
value. For instance, in Process Manager initialization, the return value
affects the foreground process quantum. Likewise, the value
of most Memory Manager global variables are doubled if the registry
indicates that NTS mode is being used.

One important caveat: You can only configure a server as a domain
controller at setup time. We currently know of no way to take
a machine that isn't already a domain controller and make it one without
reinstalling NTS. Actually, this appears to be a limitation
(or perhaps a security feature) in NT itself. According to one recently
posted Usenet message: 

    Sorry, the creation of the domain takes place DURING the install.
The ONLY way to put a PDC [Primary Domain
    Controller] in a new domain is to install NT Server on another
machine, create the new domain, demote the first server,
    then make it a backup controller in the NEW domain. 

Having said that these differences between NTS and NTW kernels are
basically controlled by simple registry settings, let's now
look briefly at these $800 registry settings: 

NT 3.51: ProductType registry setting

In version 3.51, NTS and NTW are distinguished with the following
registry setting (see below for NT 4.0): 

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\
ProductOptions\ProductType

This is a string value that is interpreted as follows (NTOSKRNL.EXE
itself only cares about the "WinNT" string, but other
programs check for the "ServerNT" and "LanmanNT" strings):

 Value
           Interpretation
 "WinNT"
           NT Workstation
 "ServerNT"
           NT Server
 "LanmanNT"
           NT Advanced Server?


Click here to examine this setting on a machine running WebSite (and a
Win-CGI based registry browser).

This setting is described in a new book published by O'Reilly, Inside
the Windows 95 Registry, by Ron Petrusha. The book covers
the NT registry as well as the Win95 registry (the NT "Product Type"
setting is described on p. 525).

Microsoft actually describes this registry setting in an article on its
web site, Determining the Product Option of a Windows NT
Setup. The "product option" wording is curious, given the effort
Microsoft makes elsewhere to have NTW and NTS appear to be
significantly different systems.

Interestingly, Microsoft's document warns: "Do NOT change the
ProductType [registry setting] under any circumstances. Changes
to the ProductType can result in the failure of the Windows NT operating
system."

What Mark Russinovich found, however, is that in NT 3.51 this "Product
Type" setting can be changed by any end-user, using the
Registry Editor supplied by Microsoft (REGEDT32.EXE):



The system does nothing to prevent changing the value from "WinNt" to
"ServerNt". After rebooting for the new "ServerNt" setting
to take effect, the system function as NTS. The NET ACCOUNTS command
says "Computer Role: SERVER". And BackOffice
can be installed and run.

This technique seems to have been known to others previously. An
AltaVista search for "ServerNt" on the web turned up several
documents describing how to run IIS on top of NTW 3.51, one of which
noted that: 

    One catch, when you change the key to ServerNt and leave it there,
from another NT machine (especially a PDC
    [Primary Domain Controller]), if they browse the network, your
machine will suddenly "appear" as an NT Server.... as
    far as the rest of the network is concerned, that [is] what your
machine will appear to be. 

Indeed, changing this registry setting turns an NTW 3.51 machine into an
NTS 3.51 machine -- albeit without Microsoft's license to
use NTS, and without the additional programs bundled with NTS. As noted
above, some of these applications are available from
third parties. So the real difference is Microsoft's license, which
prevents the cheaper NTW product from being used as a serious
web server, and which attempts to force web publishers into using the
more expensive NTS/IIS "solution." 

NT 4.0: ProductType and SystemPrefix registry settings

Some Microsoft employees have privately admitted that the differences
between NTS and NTW 3.51 were minimal. However,
they have gone on to claim that now everything is different in version
4.0. We've already established that in fact NTS 4.0 and
NTW 4.0 have exactly the same kernel, and in fact exactly the same of
everything but the costly extras bundled in with NTS.

But what of the magical 3.51 "ProductType" registry setting? It's still
there, and it still plays the same role in 4.0 that it did in 3.51
in distinguishing between the Server and Workstation modes (see table
above). Microsoft has merely added an additional registry
setting, and made some effort to prevent the user from changing these
settings. The extra setting is: 

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\Setup\SystemPrefix

The SystemPrefix value is a binary value which the kernel treats as two
DWORDs, of which the only important piece of
information seems to be the bit represented by the mask 0x04000000 in
the high-order DWORD. If ProductType is "ServerNT" or
"LanmanNT", then this bit must be set. If ProductType is "WinNT" then
the bit must be off (any inconsistency results in a
blue-screen error at system boot).

The system spawns two worker threads that watch for, and override,
changes to the two registry keys. If an attempt is made to
change ProductType, the system pops up the following warning box: 

"The system has detected tampering with your registered product type.
This is a violation of your software license. Tampering with product
type is not permitted."

However, if the worker threads are overriden (using techniques which we
are not currently publishing), then once making these
changes and rebooting, a formerly NTW 4.0 system functions as an NTS 4.0
system. The NET ACCOUNTS command reports
"Computer Role: SERVER" and the taskbar start menu's bitmap changes from
"Windows NT Workstation" to "Windows NT
Server".

Eamonn Sullivan of PC Week has confirmed that, when an NTW machine is
tweaked via the registry into an NTS machine, web
performance "tests on this "altered" Workstation were identical (within
the margin of error) to Server." (See PC Week article,
"Simple way found to turn NT Workstation into Server.")

If an attempt is made to install Microsoft's BackOffice suite on a
workstation-mode NT system, the BackOffice setup program will
prevent installation of the BackOffice programs and indicate that NT
Server must be installed first. If the system type is then
changed to server in the registry as described above and another attempt
is made to install BackOffice, then the installation of the
suite programs is possible. Curiously, if you then change the system
back to NTW mode, BackOffice continues to run fine -- so it
is only the setup/install program that cares.

A Web Tax?

To summarize, NTS is simply NTW plus some configuration changes, a set
of bundled programs (IIS, DNS, etc.), a license for
more LAN users, and apparently for more web users. NTS is a package
deal: if you want to publish to a reasonable number of
web users (more than ten!), you must get the more expensive NTS package,
which also has things you may not need, such as
Microsoft's own web server. Having paid the higher price which includes
Microsoft's own web server, you're unlikely to consider
purchasing a third-party web server. Those third-party web servers,
combined with the lower price of NTW, would be a cheaper
solution that Microsoft's NTS/IIS bundle, but Microsoft's license
agreement prevents you from opting for this better solution.
Microsoft is restricting how you can use its operating system until you
agree to buy its server products.

An attorney for Microsoft, David Heiner, was quoted by the San Francisco
Examiner (August 29): 

    Heiner said Microsoft has every right to put conditions on how its
software is used.
    ``Conditions on use are a standard practice in the software
industry,'' Heiner said. 

This is correct. But does Microsoft have "every right to put conditions"
on the use of standards such as TCP/IP, HTTP, and
WinSock?

Leaving that question aside, it's certainly true that there would be
nothing wrong if Microsoft would just come out and say that
NTS and NTW are technically identical, but that NTS comes with a license
for more LAN clients, an apparent license for more
web surfers, and an "NT Plus!" package of add-ins. Microsoft might have
trouble selling such an honestly-described version of
NTS, but they could at least tell whether the market really thinks the
license to host a web server is worth $800.

But as long as Microsoft claims that NTS is very different from NTW in
anything other than licensing, pricing, and bundling,
customers will have difficulty making informed choices. And as long as
Microsoft attempts to claim that NTW isn't suitable for
running competitors' web servers -- and attempts to use registry
settings and license agreements to discourage the use of third-party
web servers on NT -- the NTS/NTW price difference can be viewed as
little more than a "web tax."

As noted earlier, InfoWorld says that "the whole idea of having price
points for different numbers of Web hits (clients) is patently
absurd." From Microsoft's view, however, perhaps it's not so absurd. It
has often been noted that Microsoft wants to be "the
toll-collector on the information superhighway." Such tired metaphors
aside, it is clear that Bill Gates looks at businesses such as his
friend Paul Allen's Ticketmaster, and wants a piece of the
per-transaction action. The Microsoft Network (MSN) was a failed
attempt to collect this toll/tax. Pricing NT based on the number of web
users looks like another such attempt.

Piotr Kozbial <piotrk@ibbrain.ibb.waw.pl> wrote:
: **************************************************************
: Differences Between NT Server and Workstation are Minimal [...]

: We have found that NTS and NTW have identical kernels; in fact, NT is a
: single operating system with two modes. Only two
: registry settings are needed to switch between these two modes in NT
: 4.0, and only one setting in NT 3.51.


Hm, czy ktos ma dostep do NTW i NTS mozliwie z tego samego 'buildu',
zeby sprawdzic owa identycznosc?
MS daje do zrozumienia, ze jednak sa roznice w kodzie,
choc moze obie wersje zawieraja obie wersje kodu i tylko jedna jest aktywna.

J.