🚀 go-pugleaf

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Bronislaw Kozicki <bronek@wpi.com.pl> wrote:
: Zdecydowanie nie masz racji. Przeczytaj sobie
: <http://www.microsoft.com/kb/articles/q129/5/93.htm>
: zanim znowu cos na ten temat palniesz.


Szanowni Panstwo! Przeczytalem powyzszy artykul kilkukrotnie.
Nadal mi sie wydaje, ze NT Server niczym sie nie rozni od NT Workstation, jesli
chodzi o system operacyjny (a nie dodatkowe mozliwosci, ktore mozna wlaczyc).
Czyli nie ma mowy o optymalizacji, o jakichkolwiek _roznicach_, bo to jest po
prostu _to samo_. Poza oczywiscie wspomnianymi juz wielokrotnie na liscie
ograniczeniami ponad 10 polaczen "inbound" - to po prostu wymusza na
uzytkownikach zakup znacznie drozszego produktu, jakim jest server, zamiast
stacji roboczej, ktora do serwowania by sie swietnie nadawala.
Prosze uwaznie przeczytac pierwsza wyliczanke, ktora pozornie zawiera roznice
pomiedzy serwerem a workstation, ale na koncu mowi, ze workstation uzywana jako
server dziala tak samo jak server 8:)
Bo reszta argumentow jest smieszna. VDM? A co szkodzi, zeby sie zaladowalo na
zyczenie? Chyba nawet lepiej dla workstation? Watki? Jak mozna optymalizowac
watki dla programow pracujacych na serwerze aplikacji - to znaczy czym ta
optymalizacja rozni sie od optymalizacji watkow programu po prostu
uruchamianego na stacji workstation?

Ale moze nie znam angielskiego i sie myle? Nic nie rozumiem?

Dlatego:
Gdyby ktos znalazl jeszcze troche czasu na nasza dyskusje i po przeczytaniu
artykulu polecanego przez p. Bronislawa Kozickiego, ktory zalaczam ponizej,
powiedzial, czy server bez uaktywnionej sieci rozni sie czymkolwiek od
workstation czy tez nie? 

- ---------

                        Windows NT Workstation and Server Optimized For
                        Different Role

                        Article ID: Q129593
                        Creation Date: 30-APR-1995
                        Revision Date: 03-SEP-1996

                        The information in this article applies to:
                           o Microsoft Windows NT Workstation version 3.5
                           o Microsoft Windows NT Server version 3.5
                           o Microsoft Windows NT Server version 4.0
                           o Microsoft Windows NT Workstation version 4.0

                        SUMMARY

                        This article discusses the roles for which Windows
                        NT Workstation and Windows NT Server are optimized.

                        MORE INFORMATION

                        Microsoft optimized both Windows NT Workstation and
                        Windows NT Server to better serve their intended
                        purposes. Windows NT Workstation is a great
                        corporate client for users who need the power,
                        scalability, fault tolerance, or security it
                        offers. Windows NT Server is a powerful server
                        environment for customers who want to leverage its
                        application server, file and print services, or
                        remote access capabilities. The following
                        optimizations were made in Windows NT version 3.5:
                           o The write-throttling mechanism (the point at
                             which dirty data is flushed to disk) is
                             implemented differently for the Windows NT
                             Server and Windows NT Workstation. This allows
                             the server to handle server-like loads and the
                             workstation to handle desktop-like tasks.
                           o The internal code that provides the Windows NT
                             Server server functionality (SRV.SYS) is less
                             pagable. This leads to better response times
                             under heavy server-type loads.
                           o Under Windows NT Workstation, the Windows NT
                             Virtual DOS Machine (VDM) is pre-loaded for
                             improved application startup times. Windows NT
                             Server does not pre-load the VDM, but instead
                             optimizes server file operations.
                           o Windows NT Workstation and Windows NT Server
                             use a different number of system worker
                             threads and threads for blocking operations.
                             Windows NT Server is optimized for fast server
                             type I/O operations and Windows NT Workstation
                             is optimized for desktop applications.
                           o Windows NT Server can be optimized for file
                             and print server performance or application
                             server performance, allowing you to tune it
                             for maximum throughput depending on the type
                             of server usage. Windows NT Workstation does
                             not have this feature. Internal testing has
                             also shown that Windows NT Workstation
                             performs about the same as Windows NT Server
                             up to approximately 10 different, simultaneous
                             inbound user connections. This enables Windows
                             NT Workstation to function well in a small
                             peer environment. Windows NT Server is the
                             correct choice if you want to deploy a server
                             in a larger environment or want to scale your
                             network in the future.

                        These optimizations changed the performance of
                        Windows NT Workstation when used as a server. As a
                        result, peer networking is still supported for
                        basic connectivity between users on a network. You
                        can still make unlimited outbound connections to
                        server resources. However, Windows NT Workstation
                        now supports a maximum of 10 simultaneous inbound
                        connections. Our research has shown that systems
                        with this many connections are almost always being
                        used as dedicated file, print and/or application
                        servers.

                        While Windows NT Server can certainly provide
                        excellent file and print services, it can also be
                        used extensively as an application server platform
                        for database and other services. The Windows NT
                        Server file and print capabilities can be
                        selectively implemented.

                        Windows NT Server includes the following
                        capabilities not available on Windows NT
                        Workstation:
                           o Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP)
                             server service (Both Windows NT Workstation
                             and Server have DHCP Protocol)
                           o Windows Internet Naming Service (WINS)
                           o Single network logon
                           o Data protection features (disk striping, RAID
                             5, disk mirroring)
                           o Remote Access Server service can handle 255
                             concurrent incoming calls (Windows NT
                             Workstation limited to one incoming call)
                           o Gateway Services for NetWare(GSNW)
                           o Gateway to NetWare file and print resources
                             for MS network clients
                           o Services for Macintosh (allows Macintosh
                             clients to access file and print resources on
                             the Windows NT Server, and allows Microsoft
                             network and Macintosh clients to access
                             AppleTalk-based printers)
                           o Netlogon request authentication (for running
                             logon scripts)
                           o Account lockout security
                           o Network Client Administrator
                           o Administrative tools (Server Manager, User
                             Manager for Domains)
                           o Support for remote boot of diskless
                             workstations (RPL)

                        Because Windows NT Server is optimized as a server
                        platform, it is required to run Microsoft
                        BackOffice products (Systems Management Server, SNA
                        Server, SQL Server, and the upcoming Exchange
                        Server).

                        Microsoft recommends Windows NT Workstation as a
                        desktop operating system and Windows NT Server as a
                        server operating system for server applications.
                        This provides you an environment that is
                        architecturally very clean, since both the desktop
                        and server are running the same operating system,
                        and have the same APIs, etc.


                         ę1996 Microsoft Corporation

- --ser


PS Przepraszam za poprzedni list w watku, ktory oczywiscie mial pojsc prywatna
poczta do p. Bronislawa Kozickiego, a nie na liste. Bardzzo mi glupio z tego
powodu.

- --s

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: 2.6.3i
Charset: noconv

iQCVAwUBMqCE0DS5h5vvlgEFAQH/jwP/UPD5jGI7zw594BDug7xRCgReuMqM5KuU
hLcxelvoNGCIw4BQKSQoBpBSg0SVKikC5jVCgKp2FDN6HjGxwaVsE11MA19LiF1U
SOKNGOwfxGoX0p2hg3J4RYym121LxmXAq02DOCeB/iCOeKvGxGd42Ao7KXQgIvwA
YEz0kIemk7Y=
=GQMh
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----