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pet...@ifi.uio.no (Petter Kristiansen) writes:

>>My questions are various:	Is Civilisation available by FTP ?
>Shouldn't be.
>>				Or is it a commercial release ?
>YES!
>>				Are there any other good Strategy games ?
>YES!  Try SimEarth, SimAnt, Railroad Tycoon.

And for that matter, good ole SimCity.

I talked to a dude at Maxis a couple months ago, and he said that SimCity
2000 is due out either this summer or this fall, and has many improvements,
enhancements, and additions over the original.  I mentioned Civilization to
him and he mentioned that Maxis is working on a competitor but it's not
supposed to be finished until next spring.

A couple people have mentioned upgrades to Civilization.  I've not heard
anything from MicroProse (though I did register my software) and I was
hoping someone could describe what the upgrade does.
 
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In <1992May19.0...@ifi.uio.no> pet...@ifi.uio.no (Petter Kristiansen) writes:


>>My questions are various:	Is Civilisation available by FTP ?
>Shouldn't be.
>>				Or is it a commercial release ?
>YES!
>>				Are there any other good Strategy games ?
>YES!  Try SimEarth, SimAnt, Railroad Tycoon.

My 2 cents: don't try SimAnt - it's a good simulation but a bad game. SimEarth
is impressive, but has never given me much of a feeling of control over the
game. SimCity is the best of the Sim... series, just because it doesn't try
to do too much. Populous is another old favourite - real time but fairly slow,
a fair bit of room for strategy - you and the other player each play a god,
and try to make the world safe for your believers, and unsafe for infidels.

And do try civilisation - I've tried all of the "run a planet" games I could
find, and civilisation is the best so far. Unusually for a computer game, the
computer opponent is very competent - I get sick of games where the opponent
is an idiot, but wins by being fast, or by outnumbering you.


>Petter Kristiansen(cyberjockey)         | What do you burn apart from whiches?
>pet...@ifi.uio.no                      | MORE WHICHES!               
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							Steve
							st...@fulcrum.oz.au

In article <1992May19....@bradley.bradley.edu> da...@bradley.bradley.edu (David Vessell) writes:
>I talked to a dude at Maxis a couple months ago, and he said that SimCity
>2000 is due out either this summer or this fall, and has many improvements,
>enhancements, and additions over the original.  I mentioned Civilization to
>him and he mentioned that Maxis is working on a competitor but it's not
>supposed to be finished until next spring.

>A couple people have mentioned upgrades to Civilization.  I've not heard
>anything from MicroProse (though I did register my software) and I was
>hoping someone could describe what the upgrade does.
> 
>-- 
>=========*davE*.....making the world safe for intelligent dance music.=========
>--(David Vessell)--(Bradley University Computing Services)-(da...@bradley.edu)--

I would love to see a Civilization and/or Railroad Tycoon ported to Windows.

Both could definitely capitalize on the "windows" interface!




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st...@fulcrum.oz.au (Steve Taylor) writes:

>My 2 cents: don't try SimAnt - it's a good simulation but a bad game. SimEarth
>is impressive, but has never given me much of a feeling of control over the
>game. SimCity is the best of the Sim... series, just because it doesn't try
>to do too much. Populous is another old favourite - real time but fairly slow,
>a fair bit of room for strategy - you and the other player each play a god,
>and try to make the world safe for your believers, and unsafe for infidels.

To be fair, Maxis does not market their products as games but as
simulations.  The 'game' aspects of the products are peripheral at best.
The challenge is to explore and experiment, not necessarily to win.
Expect SimCity 2000 to be on the same level of complexity as SimEarth and
SimAnt.


>And do try civilisation - I've tried all of the "run a planet" games I could
>find, and civilisation is the best so far. Unusually for a computer game, the
>computer opponent is very competent - I get sick of games where the opponent
>is an idiot, but wins by being fast, or by outnumbering you.

It's certainly better than most in that aspect, but there are some unfair
restrictions in it as well.  The human player is forced to be eternally
passive concerning interaction with the other civilization leaders.  For
instance, you can't approach one and demand tribute or technologies out of
the blue, though they'll do it constantly to you.  You really can't ask
anything of them for the most part (there are instances where you have
options, but they're few in number).  And sometimes it does do the "be fast
and outnumber you" thing but not nearly as bad as some games I've seen.
It could just be that the computer is so efficient that it gives you the
impression that it couldn't possibly do what it did in half the time it
took you to do the same thing.

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