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Unfortunately, Links 2003 has many, many problems. My sources say the
Microsoft team expects to have a patch out "some time in January". These
problems include such major factors as the one you mentioned and the fact
you must downgrade TWO releases of nVidia drivers to be able to run the
game. There's also bugs in the career mode and other anomalies.

A real monkey fucking a football with this release by MS.

Kurtz
--
"Do you know what the man is saying? Do you? This is dialectics. It's very
simple dialectics. One through nine, no maybes, no supposes, no fractions.
You can't travel in space, you can't go out into space, you know, without,
like, you know, with fractions. What are you going to land on, one quarter,
three-eighths, what are you going to do when you go from here to Venus or
something -- that's dialectic physics, OK? Dialectic logic is there's only
love and hate, you either love somebody or you hate them.."


"Usenet Groups" <gordo...@attbi.com> wrote in message
news:GejO9.457957$P31.155160@rwcrnsc53...
> I recently upgraded my Windows 2000 Professional installation to DirectX
9.0
> and now Links 2003 will not load.  I have an ATI Radeon 9700 Professional
> video card with the latest drivers from their website.  The game
previously
> worked properly under DirectX 8.1.  Any ideas?
>
> There are not any patches for Links 2003 that I am aware of.  I don't know
> if ATI needs to release a new driver to correct the problem or if it is a
> Microsoft problem.
>
> The error that I receive is as follows:
>
> 'Links 2003 has encountered a problem and needs to close.  We are sorry
for
> the inconvenience.'
>
> 'AppName:  linksmmiii.exe        AppVer: 22.7.8.241  ModName: ntdll.dll
> ModVer: 5.0.2195.5400              Offset: 0004cfe8'
>
> Regards.
>
>
>

Reinstalling the 6166 ATI drivers did not correct the problem so I poked
around a little more on the Microsoft support site for Links 2003 and found
that Links 2003 uses a file called 'VideoCard.txt' which resides in the
game's home directory.  I opened this file with Notepad and found that there
was not an entry for my video card.  So using 'DXDIAG' I was able to
retrieve the device id for the 'Radeon 9700' professional card (0x4E44 ) and
I added the following line under the 'ATI' vendor section:

0x4E44 = "RADEON 9700/9500 SERIES"

After saving my update I relaunched 'Links 2003' and low and behold it
worked perfectly.  I played 6 holes and then closed the game down.  After
closing the game and restarting I am now getting the same error as before
where the game will not launch.

I have even gone so far as to remove the line that I added to the
'VideoCard.txt' file and then save it and then re-add and save the line
again, but to no avail.

I think the problem may be related to this 'VideoCard.txt' file, but I am
not sure as to the permanent fix.

Regards.

"Walter E. Kurtz" <Ku...@nungriver.com> wrote in message
news:GXjO9.17611$%3.4926996@twister.neo.rr.com...
> Unfortunately, Links 2003 has many, many problems. My sources say the
> Microsoft team expects to have a patch out "some time in January". These
> problems include such major factors as the one you mentioned and the fact
> you must downgrade TWO releases of nVidia drivers to be able to run the
> game. There's also bugs in the career mode and other anomalies.
>
> A real monkey fucking a football with this release by MS.
>
> Kurtz
> --
> "Do you know what the man is saying? Do you? This is dialectics. It's very
> simple dialectics. One through nine, no maybes, no supposes, no fractions.
> You can't travel in space, you can't go out into space, you know, without,
> like, you know, with fractions. What are you going to land on, one
quarter,
> three-eighths, what are you going to do when you go from here to Venus or
> something -- that's dialectic physics, OK? Dialectic logic is there's only
> love and hate, you either love somebody or you hate them.."
>
>
> "Usenet Groups" <gordo...@attbi.com> wrote in message
> news:GejO9.457957$P31.155160@rwcrnsc53...
> > I recently upgraded my Windows 2000 Professional installation to DirectX
> 9.0
> > and now Links 2003 will not load.  I have an ATI Radeon 9700
Professional
> > video card with the latest drivers from their website.  The game
> previously
> > worked properly under DirectX 8.1.  Any ideas?
> >
> > There are not any patches for Links 2003 that I am aware of.  I don't
know
> > if ATI needs to release a new driver to correct the problem or if it is
a
> > Microsoft problem.
> >
> > The error that I receive is as follows:
> >
> > 'Links 2003 has encountered a problem and needs to close.  We are sorry
> for
> > the inconvenience.'
> >
> > 'AppName:  linksmmiii.exe        AppVer: 22.7.8.241  ModName: ntdll.dll
> > ModVer: 5.0.2195.5400              Offset: 0004cfe8'
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> >
> >
>
>

I am able to run LS 2003 fine using DX 9.0.  As far as drivers, I can run LS
2003 with any nVidia driver, though version 30.82 performs the best.

I wouldn't blame driver issues on the game manufacturer; rather, it's the
fault of the video card drivers themselves, unless of course a game just
doesn't support a particular card.

I think your real problem, as it is with many people, is a problem with
Microsoft.  I have had absolutely no problems with LS 2003.

There are some things that I'd like changed, though.  First, the career mode
needs tweaking.  Course conditions and difficulty apparently have no bearing
on the leaderboard scores, which is a bad thing.  Second, I'd like to see
the user have the option to disable the waggle.

RTS-- though I don't play that method-- could use some tweaking also.  It's
also way too easy to edge with RTS.

Besides that I can't think of anything else that's wrong with LS 2003.  This
driver issue you speak of sounds as if it is computer configuration problem,
though I must admit that when I tried the 41.09 drivers the screen redraws
too forever.  The last decent set of drivers that nVidia has released were
the 30.82 drivers.

All in all, I think many are too apt to blame game problems on other things,
when most of the time is the users own configuration that is the real
problem.

BTW, Walter Kurtz... when MS first announced its XP Activisation policy,
weren't you the one over on the XP ngs slamming Microsoft?  I may be
mistaken here, but it sounds as if you just don't like Microsoft and
anything MS produces you're not going to be happy with.

Oh, well.  So be it.  I guess you're one of tens of millions that dislike
Gates because he makes a lot of money.  LS 2003 is a fine game, period.  I
have no issue with the game nor with Microsoft.

Have a good day,

Alanb
"Walter E. Kurtz" <Ku...@nungriver.com> wrote in message
news:GXjO9.17611$%3.4926996@twister.neo.rr.com...
> Unfortunately, Links 2003 has many, many problems. My sources say the
> Microsoft team expects to have a patch out "some time in January". These
> problems include such major factors as the one you mentioned and the fact
> you must downgrade TWO releases of nVidia drivers to be able to run the
> game. There's also bugs in the career mode and other anomalies.
>
> A real monkey fucking a football with this release by MS.
>
> Kurtz
> --
> "Do you know what the man is saying? Do you? This is dialectics. It's very
> simple dialectics. One through nine, no maybes, no supposes, no fractions.
> You can't travel in space, you can't go out into space, you know, without,
> like, you know, with fractions. What are you going to land on, one
quarter,
> three-eighths, what are you going to do when you go from here to Venus or
> something -- that's dialectic physics, OK? Dialectic logic is there's only
> love and hate, you either love somebody or you hate them.."
>
>
> "Usenet Groups" <gordo...@attbi.com> wrote in message
> news:GejO9.457957$P31.155160@rwcrnsc53...
> > I recently upgraded my Windows 2000 Professional installation to DirectX
> 9.0
> > and now Links 2003 will not load.  I have an ATI Radeon 9700
Professional
> > video card with the latest drivers from their website.  The game
> previously
> > worked properly under DirectX 8.1.  Any ideas?
> >
> > There are not any patches for Links 2003 that I am aware of.  I don't
know
> > if ATI needs to release a new driver to correct the problem or if it is
a
> > Microsoft problem.
> >
> > The error that I receive is as follows:
> >
> > 'Links 2003 has encountered a problem and needs to close.  We are sorry
> for
> > the inconvenience.'
> >
> > 'AppName:  linksmmiii.exe        AppVer: 22.7.8.241  ModName: ntdll.dll
> > ModVer: 5.0.2195.5400              Offset: 0004cfe8'
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> >
> >
>
>

"Alan Bernardo" <alanbe...@attbi.com> wrote in message
news:5i7P9.534922$NH2.35809@sccrnsc01...

> I think your real problem, as it is with many people, is a problem with
> Microsoft.  I have had absolutely no problems with LS 2003.

Uh ... well, see, Microsoft makes Links. You know that, right?

> BTW, Walter Kurtz... when MS first announced its XP Activisation policy,
> weren't you the one over on the XP ngs slamming Microsoft?  I may be
> mistaken here, but it sounds as if you just don't like Microsoft and
> anything MS produces you're not going to be happy with.

I've never been on such a group, nor do I know it even exists. I don't run
XP. So, not me.

I have no problem with MS. Monopoly or not, if Gates wasn't around to
forcefully standardize things, computers would be a thousand times more
intricate in their configurations and gaming would be nearly out of the
question .. or at the very least .. even more problematic.

No .. my point was that The King is Dead. Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2003 blows
Links 2003 in to another dimension ... like an 8-bit Nintendo game vs.
Unreal Tournament or something.

It's not even close.

In fact, the Links team should be embarrassed, ridiculed and then summarily
fired. This was the king of all golf franchises and they've rode a 1997
engine for 6 years. Reminds me of GM in the 80's and early 90's. Same damn
car, year after year.

Then, checking Links Forums all over the place and the problems people are
having with this antiquated engine and .. therein lies my point.

Kurtz
--
"It was the way we had over here of living with ourselves. We'd cut them in
half with a machine gun and give them a bandaid. It was a lie, and the more
I saw of them, the more I hated lies."

Walt,

Sorry about the XP thing.  I guess I got the name wrong.  :)



> I have no problem with MS. Monopoly or not, if Gates wasn't around to
> forcefully standardize things, computers would be a thousand times more
> intricate in their configurations and gaming would be nearly out of the
> question .. or at the very least .. even more problematic.
>

This is good to hear.  These days you see so many users who aren't able to
look beyond the MS domination and see a game or other piece of software for
what it is.

> No .. my point was that The King is Dead. Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2003 blows
> Links 2003 in to another dimension ... like an 8-bit Nintendo game vs.
> Unreal Tournament or something.
>

Graphically, maybe.  As far as gameplay goes, I just don't see it.  LS 2003
still is way ahead of TW 2003 when it comes to gameplay and realism.
Graphically, I'm not overly impressed with TW 2003.  All that glitz goes
unnoticed after a while, and you're left with how the game plays compared to
the real game of golf.  When that happens, LS 2003 wins easily, IMO.

Plus, TW 2003 is a system's hog.  Here I have a 2.4 ghz with an 18" Flat
Screeen and when I try to run TW 2003 with all the settings on high, my
frames are quite jerky for my standards.

>From an animations standpoint, MS' are better.  EA has had years to perfect
their animations and on the first try MS' are better.

Also, TW 2003's real-time swing is way too easy, even at Masters' level.
MS' real-time swing wins out again, barely though.  I played LS 2003's RTS
for a while but inconsistent long-iron speeds and the fact that edging is
way too easy brought me back to the PS method.

To me, TW 2003 is just not golf.  First, it's too easy.  Second, any golf
game where all you have to do is wing it is not the kind of golf game I'm
looking for.  If you consider that in the real game of golf the weather and
the lie have an enormous affect on scores, and then consider that in TW 2003
these two factors are non-factors, then I can't see how anyone could take TW
2003 over LS 2003.

> It's not even close.
>
> In fact, the Links team should be embarrassed, ridiculed and then
summarily
> fired. This was the king of all golf franchises and they've rode a 1997
> engine for 6 years. Reminds me of GM in the 80's and early 90's. Same damn
> car, year after year.
>
> Then, checking Links Forums all over the place and the problems people are
> having with this antiquated engine and .. therein lies my point.

EA has revamped its engine?  What's the sense of a new engine when the one
being used is excellent?  I think if you look at the 1997 game and then
compare it to the 2003 game, you'll see things have changed.

As to the "problems with this antiquated engine", what problems specifically
are you speaking of?  I have yet to see one person, who prefers TW 2003 over
LS 2003 give me any "valid" reason why they think the way they think, other
than TW 2003 is graphically better.

I'd just like to see a list, enumerated.  Then we can argue which game is
better.  Such comments as "it's not even close" just aren't good enough.

So, anyone-- let's have some reasons here-- valid and specific enough.

Alanb
> --
> "It was the way we had over here of living with ourselves. We'd cut them
in
> half with a machine gun and give them a bandaid. It was a lie, and the
more
> I saw of them, the more I hated lies."
>
>
>