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13 total messages Started by bv... Thu, 03 Feb 2000 00:00
Cooperative multiplayer - where is it?
#65714
Author: bv...
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 00:00
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Hi All,

Playing games cooperatively against the computer is the best fun in my
opinion. It is dissapointing to see how few cooperative multiplayer games
exist. This is particularly true in the case of RPGs. Playing through
Baldur's Gate with my wife was fantastic.
I want more of these games!
I will comment on a few games that would (have) be(en) great in
cooperative mode:
Caesar III/Pharaoh - you could divide the responsibilities and manage a
city together. Each player could have an allocated budget.
Rollercoaster Tycoon - same as above
Planescape: Torment - it was my biggest dissapointment that this game
does not have multiplayer support, but after all I forgive Black Isle,
because it would be reading a book together
Fallout 2 - the village should have sent two people to get a GECK
X-Wing Alliance
Nox - This upcoming Diablo-like RPG will NOT have coop multiplayer


And the list could go on. I think most games today would do better if they
supported cooperative multiplayer. Even shooters should have this mode,
like Quake 2.

If you agree let your voice be heard!!!

Black Void




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Re: Cooperative multiplayer - where is it?
#65715
Author: Joseph W. OSullivan
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 00:00
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I am in full agreement. I was very disappointed to find out that Nox wopuld
not be co-op, and was equally disappointed to find that Revenant would only be
co-op if I or someone else wrote the scenarios, that only Deathmatch scenarios
were included. I really annoyed me that it is very hard to set up games like
Unreal to use monsters, as well. I have never been able to start a multiplayer
game with monsters included, even though the option is present.
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> If you agree let your voice be heard!!!
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Re: Cooperative multiplayer - where is it?
#65716
Author: Fellowspirit
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 00:00
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>If you agree let your voice be heard!!!
>
>Black Void
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And if I don't..? :)
Re: Cooperative multiplayer - where is it?
#65717
Author: Patrick Andersson
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 00:00
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bv...@my-deja.com wrote:

>  It is dissapointing to see how few cooperative multiplayer games

I'm also very disapointed with this. Thief in Co-op would be cool...
Re: Cooperative multiplayer - where is it?
#65718
Author: knig... Knight37
Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 00:00
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br...@telia.com (Patrick Andersson) wrote:

>bv...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
>>  It is dissapointing to see how few cooperative multiplayer games
>
>I'm also very disapointed with this. Thief in Co-op would be cool...

Thief coop? That kinda goes against the whole nature of thieves...

-- 

Knight37

"Living in the limelight, the universal dream,
for those who wish to seem.
Those who wish to be must put aside the alienation,
get on with the fascination, the realization,
the underlying theme." -- Rush "Limelight"
Re: Cooperative multiplayer - where is it?
#65719
Author: knig... Knight37
Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 00:00
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who...@wherever.com wrote:

>:>I'm also very disapointed with this. Thief in Co-op would be
>:>cool... 
>
>: Thief coop? That kinda goes against the whole nature of thieves...
>
>There IS a game named "Gangsters".. not sure if it's coop
>multiplayer tho ;). 

Well, sure, but thieves and gangsters are two different kinds of 
criminals... 

also not sure if Gangsters has a coop mode or not...

-- 

Knight37

"Living in the limelight, the universal dream,
for those who wish to seem.
Those who wish to be must put aside the alienation,
get on with the fascination, the realization,
the underlying theme." -- Rush "Limelight"
Re: Cooperative multiplayer - where is it?
#65720
Author: who...
Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 00:00
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In comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg Knight37 <knig...@gamespotmail.com> wrote:
: br...@telia.com (Patrick Andersson) wrote:
:>>  It is dissapointing to see how few cooperative multiplayer games
:>
:>I'm also very disapointed with this. Thief in Co-op would be cool...

: Thief coop? That kinda goes against the whole nature of thieves...

There IS a game named "Gangsters".. not sure if it's coop multiplayer tho ;).
Re: Cooperative multiplayer - where is it?
#65721
Author: Geoffrey Tobin
Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 00:00
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bv...@my-deja.com wrote:
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> Playing games cooperatively against the computer is the best fun in my
> opinion. It is disappointing to see how few cooperative multiplayer games
> exist.

Any strategy game that allows cooperative victory can be played
with team work.  E.g. Alpha Centauri.

The adventure game "Zork: Grand Inquisitor", or so i recall being told,
can be played cooperatively.

-- 
Best wishes!
Geoffrey Tobin
Email:  G.T...@latrobe.edu.au
WWW:    http://www.ee.latrobe.edu.au/~gt/gt.html
Re: Cooperative multiplayer - where is it?
#65722
Author: Cay
Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 00:00
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Agreed.  That's why my friends and I were so addicted to the arcade game
Gauntlet back in the 80s, and now Gauntlet Legends on the N64.  Nothing is
better than having 4 friends work together to beat the living tar out of
those hordes of monsters.  Of course there are sometimes problems with the
elf (aka archer) stealing everyone's food, but that can be dealt with!  ;)

-Cay


<bv...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:87c1d3$aev$1@nnrp1.deja.com...
> Hi All,
>
> Playing games cooperatively against the computer is the best fun in my
> opinion. It is dissapointing to see how few cooperative multiplayer games
> exist. This is particularly true in the case of RPGs. Playing through
> Baldur's Gate with my wife was fantastic.
> I want more of these games!
Re: Cooperative multiplayer - where is it?
#65723
Author: Tarquelne
Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 00:00
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>I want more of these games!

Gotta agree.  A good game with co-op is pretty much a "must buy" for
me.

>supported cooperative multiplayer. Even shooters should have this mode,
>like Quake 2.

Tried System Shock2 co-op?  The first shooter I _really_ had fun with
in co-op mode, because of the differentiation allowed each player. 
(I was the psi-techie, she was the Marine.)
                                            Tarquelne
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Re: Cooperative multiplayer - where is it?
#65726
Author: hermy...
Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 00:00
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Apparently there was a memo distributed to the majority of developers
stating that players, in fact, do not need/want cooperative play in
games. I'm unsure who circulated this memo but it seems to have made its
way to every major development house with only a few minor exceptions.


Let me clarify for any developers which may read this:

Not all gamers are serial killing 13 year olds hopped up on coca-cola
and candy bars. Some gamers actually ENJOY cooperating with other humans
against AI opponents.

When you have only deathmatch you force a situation in which you may
have one side which is massively more skilled than the other side. That
is part of the reason so many people shy away from deathmatch type
games, especially the guy who only has a few hours to play a night. Why
go get raped by a 13 year old who has 8 hours a night to play Quake3,
where is the fun in that?  With an AI opponent you can *scale* the
difficulty to make it a challenge without being too easy or impossible.

Hopefully by some act of God developers will get this memo above,
becuase right now, coop play is looking real bleak...




In article <87c1d3$aev$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
  bv...@my-deja.com wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Playing games cooperatively against the computer is the best fun in my
> opinion. It is dissapointing to see how few cooperative multiplayer
games
> exist. This is particularly true in the case of RPGs. Playing through
> Baldur's Gate with my wife was fantastic.
> I want more of these games!
> I will comment on a few games that would (have) be(en) great in
> cooperative mode:
> Caesar III/Pharaoh - you could divide the responsibilities and manage
a
> city together. Each player could have an allocated budget.
> Rollercoaster Tycoon - same as above
> Planescape: Torment - it was my biggest dissapointment that this game
> does not have multiplayer support, but after all I forgive Black Isle,
> because it would be reading a book together
> Fallout 2 - the village should have sent two people to get a GECK
> X-Wing Alliance
> Nox - This upcoming Diablo-like RPG will NOT have coop multiplayer
>
> And the list could go on. I think most games today would do better if
they
> supported cooperative multiplayer. Even shooters should have this
mode,
> like Quake 2.
>
> If you agree let your voice be heard!!!
>
> Black Void
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
>


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Re: Cooperative multiplayer - where is it?
#65724
Author: The Puppeteer
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 00:00
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In comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic Tarquelne <os...@apk.net> wrote:
>>I want more of these games!
> Gotta agree.  A good game with co-op is pretty much a "must buy" for
> me.
>>supported cooperative multiplayer. Even shooters should have this mode,
>>like Quake 2.

I refer you to CTF and other mods which exist for practically every
shooter in existence. Sure, you don't HAVE to cooperate in those mods, but
if you do it's a LOT more fun!

However, I guess you mean cooperating vs. the computer, not in team
vs. team play... yeah, I agree, that's fun. More fun in a
"campaign" setting, though; the standard "skirmish w/coop" type game gets
old REALLY fast.

-- 
-The Puppet Master
nghs...@comp.nus.edu.sg

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Re: Cooperative multiplayer - where is it?
#65725
Author: Alex
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 00:00
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"The Puppeteer" <nghs...@comp.nus.edu.sg> wrote in message
news:22E71DAEC504D111B78100805FFE9DC7306D24E2@pfs21.ex.nus.edu.sg...
> In comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic Tarquelne <os...@apk.net> wrote:
> >>I want more of these games!
> > Gotta agree.  A good game with co-op is pretty much a "must buy" for
> > me.
> >>supported cooperative multiplayer. Even shooters should have this mode,
> >>like Quake 2.
>
> I refer you to CTF and other mods which exist for practically every
> shooter in existence. Sure, you don't HAVE to cooperate in those mods, but
> if you do it's a LOT more fun!
>
> However, I guess you mean cooperating vs. the computer, not in team
> vs. team play... yeah, I agree, that's fun. More fun in a
> "campaign" setting, though; the standard "skirmish w/coop" type game gets
> old REALLY fast.


I agree. Some of the most fun I've had is with a couple of strategy games
played in co-op online. Myth and Rogue Spear. Almost any mission for Myth
and Diamond Edge for Rogue Spear are the best missions to complete in co-op.
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