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Re: So is X3 THAT boring?

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From: Nats
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 22:30
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"Memnoch" <memnoch@nospampleaseimbritish.ntlworld.com> wrote in message 
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> On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 18:30:58 -0000, "Nats" <nstutt@nstutt.freeserve.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>>"Memnoch" <memnoch@nospampleaseimbritish.ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>>news:u0ien110v48n66cjaom0ndjtvst37nq40i@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 12:23:17 -0000, "Nats" 
>>> <nstutt@nstutt.freeserve.co.uk>
>>Well thats just plain stupid if you think about it. So we are supposed to 
>>be
>>in the far future with space ships and massive stations and yet the
>>navigation software doesnt even know any of the systems you are travelling
>>to.
>
> I can see where you are coming from but its also a game mechanic. If they
> opened up the map showing all sectors, what would be the point of 
> exploration.
> That would be a large chunk of the game completely out the window.

It may not seem too important a fact to a developer but to someone who wants 
to play a great space game and feel like its sort of realistic its bloody 
important. I mean Elite had systems programmed in but the ones that were 
outside known space were unknown in terms of most details. So in order to 
find out about them you had to explore. I dont see how it would be any 
different in the X games. If you are an Argon pilot at the start of the game 
you should have all of the Argon and surrounding systems in your nav 
computer. Thats a fact that is inescapable in any realistic space game. So 
the fact that youre being dropped into a system you know absolutely nothing 
about for me breaks the realism before you even start the game. And from 
there its just down hill because when you actually do bother to explore the 
other systems you find out that theyre pretty much exactly the same as the 
ones you just left - and the next and the next... to infinity probably.

In the past Ive always gone through the same procedure of playing X games 
(and Ive stupidly bought three of them!). I get used to the ship, I trade a 
bit to get some decent equipment, and then I go off exploring. And that when 
I start getting bored - usually a few days into the game. Because every 
system I come to is the same. Theres no reason to stop in any of them. So I 
keep going and going until I have seen twenty or so systems all the same. 
Then I stop playing, the game goes on the shelf and I move onto a better 
game like RTW or Civ 4.

So you see why I refuse to buy this one. I know where it will end up. Im 
sick of wasting my money.

Nats 
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From: "Nats" <nstutt@nstutt.freeserve.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: So is X3 THAT boring?
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