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"Bret Ripley" <ripley@gotsky.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 19:31:40 GMT, Bill Huffman wrote:
>
> > "Bret Ripley" <ripley@gotsky.net> wrote in message
> > news:fczx4qigr560.183d6yslt4tsh$.dlg@40tude.net...
> >> On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 19:23:19 +0000, Lemming wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 02:56:09 GMT, "Bill Huffman" <bhuffma1@san.rr.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>"me@home.com" <jan.deinhard@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:1131563304.371934.186430@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>> Bill Huffman wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> > People claiming a degree from a real school that was never
received
> > is
> >>>>> > probably more common than Derek Smart's kind of academic fraud
where
> > he
> >>>>> > claims a degree that was apparently purchased from a diploma mill.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Well, is it legal to purchase a degree in the US? I'm pretty sure it
> > is
> >>>>> illegal in germany. It is real fraud here. Not just an immoral act.
> >>>>> Same with plagiarism.
> >>>>
> >>>>I don't think that it is illegal to purchase or print up a bogus
diploma
> >>>>anyplace in the USA. It is illegal to use a bogus degree to defraud
> > someone
> >>>>anywhere in the USA. However, that is covered under the general
> > fraudulent
> >>>>behavior laws, which are much more difficult to enforce. It is illegal
> > to
> >>>>use  unaccredited  degrees in about nine states. This number is
growing.
> > For
> >>>>example seven years ago it was illegal to use an unaccredited degree
in
> > only
> >>>>one state, Florida. The residental state of my favorite fraud, Derek.
> >>>
> >>> I'm thinking of starting a University in the USA specialising in
> >>> Intelligent Design.  Two year course, run over two one-week semesters
> >>> which abler students may, if they wish, combine into one year.  I
> >>> might even offer a correspondence version if there is enough demand.
> >>>
> >>> Basically the syllabus will consist of teaching thee students to say
> >>> "Stephen J Gould believed in Intelligent Design" without laughing.  I
> >>> think it's a winner;  all my market research suggests that the kind of
> >>> people who would want such a certificate are exactly the who would be
> >>> prepared pay for it.
> >>
> >> Sounds like a winner.  However, you'll probably want to avoid Dover,
> >> Pennsylvania.
> >>
> >> "DOVER, Pa. - Voters came down hard Tuesday on school board members who
> >> backed a statement on intelligent design being read in biology class,
> >> ousting eight Republicans and replacing them with Democrats who want
the
> >> concept stripped from the science curriculum."
> >>
> >> http://www.freenewmexican.com/news/34828.html
> >>
> >> I guess we're not completely beyond hope.  Yet.
> >
> > I'm stunned. Bret showing hope in his fellow Americans.
>
> Even Homer nods.
>
> > I must say, Bret,
> > such an outlandish position being taken would seem to indicate that I've
> > misread your post. I've reread it multiple times but still can't
understand
> > what I'm misunderstanding?
>
> Understanding that you misunderstand is the essence of wisdom.
> Misunderstanding what you understand is a registered trademark of "Project
> for the New American Century".
>
> http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm
>
> (If you haven't seen this before it is worth a look.  Check out the names
> at the bottom, keeping in mind that this was drafted in 1997.)
>
> Bret