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On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 19:31:40 GMT, Bill Huffman wrote:

> "Bret Ripley" <ripley@gotsky.net> wrote in message
> news:fczx4qigr560.183d6yslt4tsh$.dlg@40tude.net...
>> On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 19:23:19 +0000, Lemming wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 02:56:09 GMT, "Bill Huffman" <bhuffma1@san.rr.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"me@home.com" <jan.deinhard@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:1131563304.371934.186430@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> Bill Huffman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > People claiming a degree from a real school that was never received
> is
>>>>> > probably more common than Derek Smart's kind of academic fraud where
> he
>>>>> > claims a degree that was apparently purchased from a diploma mill.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, is it legal to purchase a degree in the US? I'm pretty sure it
> is
>>>>> illegal in germany. It is real fraud here. Not just an immoral act.
>>>>> Same with plagiarism.
>>>>
>>>>I don't think that it is illegal to purchase or print up a bogus diploma
>>>>anyplace in the USA. It is illegal to use a bogus degree to defraud
> someone
>>>>anywhere in the USA. However, that is covered under the general
> fraudulent
>>>>behavior laws, which are much more difficult to enforce. It is illegal
> to
>>>>use  unaccredited  degrees in about nine states. This number is growing.
> For
>>>>example seven years ago it was illegal to use an unaccredited degree in
> only
>>>>one state, Florida. The residental state of my favorite fraud, Derek.
>>>
>>> I'm thinking of starting a University in the USA specialising in
>>> Intelligent Design.  Two year course, run over two one-week semesters
>>> which abler students may, if they wish, combine into one year.  I
>>> might even offer a correspondence version if there is enough demand.
>>>
>>> Basically the syllabus will consist of teaching thee students to say
>>> "Stephen J Gould believed in Intelligent Design" without laughing.  I
>>> think it's a winner;  all my market research suggests that the kind of
>>> people who would want such a certificate are exactly the who would be
>>> prepared pay for it.
>>
>> Sounds like a winner.  However, you'll probably want to avoid Dover,
>> Pennsylvania.
>>
>> "DOVER, Pa. - Voters came down hard Tuesday on school board members who
>> backed a statement on intelligent design being read in biology class,
>> ousting eight Republicans and replacing them with Democrats who want the
>> concept stripped from the science curriculum."
>>
>> http://www.freenewmexican.com/news/34828.html
>>
>> I guess we're not completely beyond hope.  Yet.
> 
> I'm stunned. Bret showing hope in his fellow Americans.

Even Homer nods.

> I must say, Bret,
> such an outlandish position being taken would seem to indicate that I've
> misread your post. I've reread it multiple times but still can't understand
> what I'm misunderstanding?

Understanding that you misunderstand is the essence of wisdom.
Misunderstanding what you understand is a registered trademark of "Project
for the New American Century".

http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm

(If you haven't seen this before it is worth a look.  Check out the names
at the bottom, keeping in mind that this was drafted in 1997.)

Bret