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On Tue, 09 Jun 2015 17:16:49 GMT, john...@frontier.com (John Lewis)
wrote:

>Posted on Facebook 3 hours ago,  (9 June 2015)
>
>Dear Gamers, 
>May 19th was a crucial date for all of us here at CD PROJEKT RED -- we
>released The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt, our open world role-playing game
>that we had been hard at work on for over 3 years. Since day one, you
>have given us tons of positive feedback and support -- the sheer
>volume of emails we’ve gotten since launch simply congratulating us
>for our efforts is both epic and heartwarming, and I wish every
>developer comes to have such a fantastic community. In terms of media
>reception, we’re really humbled by the scores the game has received
>all around the world. With an average of 90+ on every platform, Wild
>Hunt is our dream coming true. 
>I’d also like to take this opportunity to thank the four million
>gamers worldwide who bought The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt in the first two
>weeks from launch. Four million RPG fans spending their hard-earned
>money on our game is a sign that we did something right, and you can
>be sure that we’ll harness all that positive energy and make the
>upcoming expansions worthy of the grand adventure that you’re telling
>us Wild Hunt already is! Until then, keep on enjoying Wild Hunt, do
>not forget to grab your weekly set of free DLCs, and stay tuned for
>constant updates and enhancement to the game we are continuously
>working on. 
>Dandelion once said to Geralt that the world is changing, the sun is
>setting, and vodka’s running out -- go, play, and have fun! 
>All the best, 
>Marcin Iwinski 
>Co-founder, CD PROJEKT RED 
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>hmmm..... completely DRM-free too, at least if purchased from GOG...at
>exactly the same price as all the other download sources. Just before
>the game was released, GOG stated  thet there were 1.5 million
>pre-orders.
>
>Seems as if there are far more honest PC-game purchasers than are
>usually credited by our resident Steam-DRM fanatic. 
>
>The sales numbers certainly seems to justify CD-Projekt's/GOG's faith
>in the honesty of their customer base. How refreshing !
>
>Also, how nice to see a sincere thank-you note directly from a
>developer to their fans.
>
>John Lewis

Now if we can only get them to spend as much time fixing the bugs and
making it look something like the game they promised at E3 as they
have writing self-congratulatory attaboys-to-me notes.

Joyfully, Steam enacted it's refund policy just in time for me to
shitcan this game and send it back to the oven to bake a while and
pick it up on a ten dollar special later.

I used to be a fan of the Witcher series.  I hope I can say that again
one day.

On Tue, 09 Jun 2015 14:00:50 -0400, Rin Stowleigh
<rstow...@nevrhadgmail.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 09 Jun 2015 17:16:49 GMT, john...@frontier.com (John Lewis)
>wrote:
>
>>Posted on Facebook 3 hours ago,  (9 June 2015)
>>
>>Dear Gamers, 
>>May 19th was a crucial date for all of us here at CD PROJEKT RED -- we
>>released The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt, our open world role-playing game
>>that we had been hard at work on for over 3 years. Since day one, you
>>have given us tons of positive feedback and support -- the sheer
>>volume of emails we�ve gotten since launch simply congratulating us
>>for our efforts is both epic and heartwarming, and I wish every
>>developer comes to have such a fantastic community. In terms of media
>>reception, we�re really humbled by the scores the game has received
>>all around the world. With an average of 90+ on every platform, Wild
>>Hunt is our dream coming true. 
>>I�d also like to take this opportunity to thank the four million
>>gamers worldwide who bought The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt in the first two
>>weeks from launch. Four million RPG fans spending their hard-earned
>>money on our game is a sign that we did something right, and you can
>>be sure that we�ll harness all that positive energy and make the
>>upcoming expansions worthy of the grand adventure that you�re telling
>>us Wild Hunt already is! Until then, keep on enjoying Wild Hunt, do
>>not forget to grab your weekly set of free DLCs, and stay tuned for
>>constant updates and enhancement to the game we are continuously
>>working on. 
>>Dandelion once said to Geralt that the world is changing, the sun is
>>setting, and vodka�s running out -- go, play, and have fun! 
>>All the best, 
>>Marcin Iwinski 
>>Co-founder, CD PROJEKT RED 
>>
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>hmmm..... completely DRM-free too, at least if purchased from GOG...at
>>exactly the same price as all the other download sources. Just before
>>the game was released, GOG stated  thet there were 1.5 million
>>pre-orders.
>>
>>Seems as if there are far more honest PC-game purchasers than are
>>usually credited by our resident Steam-DRM fanatic. 
>>
>>The sales numbers certainly seems to justify CD-Projekt's/GOG's faith
>>in the honesty of their customer base. How refreshing !
>>
>>Also, how nice to see a sincere thank-you note directly from a
>>developer to their fans.
>>
>>John Lewis
>
>Now if we can only get them to spend as much time fixing the bugs and
>making it look something like the game they promised at E3 as they
>have writing self-congratulatory attaboys-to-me notes.

It seems as if they have been working very hard on that.
>
>Joyfully, Steam enacted it's refund policy just in time for me to
>shitcan this game and send it back to the oven to bake a while

Must have been a very rapid <2-hour assessment of the game....

> and pick it up on a ten dollar special later.
>

Just like I am doing currently with Far Cry 4 and Dying Light.
Threshold might be a little higher.... say $15-$20 max.
 
>I used to be a fan of the Witcher series.  

Really?? I never thought that Single Player RPGs were ever exactly
your "cup of tea".... Multiplay shooters seem to be your forte....

>I hope I can say that again
>one day.

I hope so too...

John Lewis

On 6/9/2015 10:16 AM, John Lewis wrote:
> Posted on Facebook 3 hours ago,  (9 June 2015)
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> hmmm..... completely DRM-free too, at least if purchased from GOG...at
> exactly the same price as all the other download sources. Just before
> the game was released, GOG stated  thet there were 1.5 million
> pre-orders.

      I purchased the game from Amazon and it uses a GOG 
installer. Seems however you buy the game it's going through 
GOG. They even have a new client that allows for achievements 
and such. A few free DLCs can also be had through GOG.

>
> Seems as if there are far more honest PC-game purchasers than are
> usually credited by our resident Steam-DRM fanatic.
>
> The sales numbers certainly seems to justify CD-Projekt's/GOG's faith
> in the honesty of their customer base. How refreshing !

      I have to agree with this one, GOG and their DRM free 
model is what has me buying more games than I have since the 
90s. Very good to see that the paranoid game developers are 
wrong. My theory is that even some of the people who pirate the 
games actually buy them too. Of course there are those pirates 
who will never buy the game no matter what so they aren't really 
costing the game developers money. The claimed losses due to 
piracy are very exaggerated IMO. This just goes to show if you 
put out a quality game, people will buy it.

John

Am 09.06.15 um 20:00 schrieb Rin Stowleigh:

> Now if we can only get them to spend as much time fixing the bugs and
> making it look something like the game they promised at E3 as they
> have writing self-congratulatory attaboys-to-me notes.
>
> Joyfully, Steam enacted it's refund policy just in time for me to
> shitcan this game and send it back to the oven to bake a while and
> pick it up on a ten dollar special later.
>
> I used to be a fan of the Witcher series.  I hope I can say that again
> one day.
>
I and 4 mio other happy customers beg to differ.


Werner

On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 05:21:23 GMT, john...@frontier.com (John Lewis)
wrote:

>On Tue, 09 Jun 2015 14:00:50 -0400, Rin Stowleigh
><rstow...@nevrhadgmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 09 Jun 2015 17:16:49 GMT, john...@frontier.com (John Lewis)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Posted on Facebook 3 hours ago,  (9 June 2015)
>>>
>>>Dear Gamers, 
>>>May 19th was a crucial date for all of us here at CD PROJEKT RED -- we
>>>released The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt, our open world role-playing game
>>>that we had been hard at work on for over 3 years. Since day one, you
>>>have given us tons of positive feedback and support -- the sheer
>>>volume of emails we’ve gotten since launch simply congratulating us
>>>for our efforts is both epic and heartwarming, and I wish every
>>>developer comes to have such a fantastic community. In terms of media
>>>reception, we’re really humbled by the scores the game has received
>>>all around the world. With an average of 90+ on every platform, Wild
>>>Hunt is our dream coming true. 
>>>I’d also like to take this opportunity to thank the four million
>>>gamers worldwide who bought The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt in the first two
>>>weeks from launch. Four million RPG fans spending their hard-earned
>>>money on our game is a sign that we did something right, and you can
>>>be sure that we’ll harness all that positive energy and make the
>>>upcoming expansions worthy of the grand adventure that you’re telling
>>>us Wild Hunt already is! Until then, keep on enjoying Wild Hunt, do
>>>not forget to grab your weekly set of free DLCs, and stay tuned for
>>>constant updates and enhancement to the game we are continuously
>>>working on. 
>>>Dandelion once said to Geralt that the world is changing, the sun is
>>>setting, and vodka’s running out -- go, play, and have fun! 
>>>All the best, 
>>>Marcin Iwinski 
>>>Co-founder, CD PROJEKT RED 
>>>
>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>hmmm..... completely DRM-free too, at least if purchased from GOG...at
>>>exactly the same price as all the other download sources. Just before
>>>the game was released, GOG stated  thet there were 1.5 million
>>>pre-orders.
>>>
>>>Seems as if there are far more honest PC-game purchasers than are
>>>usually credited by our resident Steam-DRM fanatic. 
>>>
>>>The sales numbers certainly seems to justify CD-Projekt's/GOG's faith
>>>in the honesty of their customer base. How refreshing !
>>>
>>>Also, how nice to see a sincere thank-you note directly from a
>>>developer to their fans.
>>>
>>>John Lewis
>>
>>Now if we can only get them to spend as much time fixing the bugs and
>>making it look something like the game they promised at E3 as they
>>have writing self-congratulatory attaboys-to-me notes.
>
>It seems as if they have been working very hard on that.
>>
>>Joyfully, Steam enacted it's refund policy just in time for me to
>>shitcan this game and send it back to the oven to bake a while
>
>Must have been a very rapid <2-hour assessment of the game....

Yes.  It didn't take long to assess the yesteryear visuals, the screwy
controls, the inability to bind movement keys (which I know they later
fixed), the fact the game disabled the volume control on my keyboard,
and to realize they duped the public by showing one game at E3 and
releasing another.

>> and pick it up on a ten dollar special later.
>>
>
>Just like I am doing currently with Far Cry 4 and Dying Light.
>Threshold might be a little higher.... say $15-$20 max.

I know you're probably not interested, but avoiding release-time
purchase of the two above completely excluded you from any reasonable
enjoyment of the multiplayer games (which in the case of FC4 was very
much worth playing).  

That is always the dilemma if you're a multiplayer player -- you can't
wait for a sale price, because if you do then you've missed the first
few months of online play.  In time, most games that aren't designed
around SP campaign first but include a MP element end up losing their
audience to the point where you can't even find a game, or if you do
it's with a handful of people who also picked up the game on sale (who
are also not MP players thus don't know how to get the most out of
it).

As I said, I'm sure you're not losing sleep over the loss of
multiplayer, but I wanted to point it out because so many gamers don't
realize what they are missing (a dilemma they've created for
themselves by their own habits).
 
>>I used to be a fan of the Witcher series.  
>
>Really?? I never thought that Single Player RPGs were ever exactly
>your "cup of tea".... Multiplay shooters seem to be your forte....

I think folks here think of me as a multiplayer-shooter guy only
because I'm one of the only one here that plays those types of games.
I'm into games that involve tactics, and the purest form of that is to
play tactical first person shooters against other humans.  That's not
the extent of my gaming history though.  Most folks would be surprised
to learn how many hours I've spent on games like Age of Empires, Red
Alert 1&2, Command and Conquer, Warcraft (the original RTS not the
MMO).  

I've written about being a fan of Witcher1 and 2 many times here
before.  In fact I defended Witcher 2 as a good game when folks in
this NG were bashing it.

I wouldn't say that single player RPGs are necessarily my favorite
genre, but I play many of them and convey positive impressions of them
here when they're good.  

I've completed main quest lines in Skyrim, Fallout:NV, and a number of
others over the years, I just find that too many of them become a
grind and do not hold my interest.  Go here, get this, run there and
give it to so and so.  There's nothing about being an errand boy with
armor and sword that is interesting or appealing to me.

I did recently finish the nutso-long main campaign of GTA V, taking a
multi-week break from the multiplayer features of the game just so I
could finally get it done.  And some of the missions were a lot of
fun, but that's certainly not an rpg, just an example of a recent SP
title.  Besides, the line has gotten blurred between action games and
rpgs of late.  Action games consist of rpg-like elements and vice
versa.

On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 12:13:19 +0200, Werner Punz <we...@gmx.at> wrote:

>Am 09.06.15 um 20:00 schrieb Rin Stowleigh:
>
>> Now if we can only get them to spend as much time fixing the bugs and
>> making it look something like the game they promised at E3 as they
>> have writing self-congratulatory attaboys-to-me notes.
>>
>> Joyfully, Steam enacted it's refund policy just in time for me to
>> shitcan this game and send it back to the oven to bake a while and
>> pick it up on a ten dollar special later.
>>
>> I used to be a fan of the Witcher series.  I hope I can say that again
>> one day.
>>
>I and 4 mio other happy customers beg to differ.

And there are about ten times that number playing Call of Duty on any
given day across the world.

Are you sure you want to imply that the population size of fanboys is
really meaningful?

On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 17:09:54 -0500, Zaghadka <zagh...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 11:04:21 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, Rin
>Stowleigh wrote: 
>
>>I've written about being a fan of Witcher1 and 2 many times here
>>before.  In fact I defended Witcher 2 as a good game when folks in
>>this NG were bashing it.
>
>Yeah, yeah. We get it. You don't like Witcher 3. You think it's
>half-baked. There's no need to justify your opinion. You're entitled to
>be the guy who thinks Witcher 3 sucks. You don't need to have bona fide
>credentials as an impartial judge.
>
>Your opinion, among other things, has caused me to wait a while for this
>one to be patched up before purchasing it. I'm used to doing that. The
>price will probably plummet, too.

Be careful, he's going to say he kill-filled you, but its actually the
exact opposite. He'll be stalking you, tyring to find out where you
live and the names of your kids to post on Usenet... Over your
opinions on video games.
 
This dude is probably the biggest weirdo on Usenet game groups right
now.