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Jose Ruiz Cristina (jruiz@ribera) wrote:
: 	I am a Spanish Ultima fan and I have always wandered
: what is the correct pronunciation for "Ultima"; do you say
: ['ul- ti - ma] or [ul - 'tai -ma]. And, by the way, does it
: have any meaning in English?
: 	May be it comes from Spanish. Both "Ultima" and "Avatar"
: are Spanish correct words.

I suspect the derivation is Latin rather than Spanish.  "Ultima 
Thule" was the name used by ancient and medieval geographers for 
the extreme north.  There's a place named Ultima Thule in Ultima 
I, so Lord British was certainly aware of this.  The "ultima"
in the Latin phrase means "last" or "extreme" and is presumably
the ancestor of the Spanish "ultima" also.

"avatar" is an English word also, derived from Sanskrit.  Originally I
believe it referred to the incarnation of a god, as in Hinduism(?).
Now the meaning has shifted to mean something very much like what
it does in the game:  a personification of some virtue.

In article <D0t29...@dit.upm.es>, jruiz@ribera (Jose Ruiz Cristina) says:
>
>        I am a Spanish Ultima fan and I have always wandered
>what is the correct pronunciation for "Ultima"; do you say
>['ul- ti - ma] or [ul - 'tai -ma]. 

I've always said it (and I think the English pronunciation would be) with
the accent on the "ul" making it ul'-ti-ma (I don't know where the accent
mark would go in Spanish to signify this...

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>  May be it comes from Spanish. Both "Ultima" and "Avatar"
>  are Spanish correct words.

Actually the word "Avatar" is an ancient Indian (Sanskrit) word.
It is used to describe the mortal forms that the Hindu gods take
when they come down to earth.

Dhruv Gupta
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Actually, I always say "ULT-TA-MA", thanks for pointing out I'm
mispronouncing it. There's a reference in the book "Quest for Clues"
that says the game was named Ultimate <Faulty memory & I loaned the book,
it could have been something similar> & it was pointed out that the name
was already in use/copyrighted ergo Ultima was born.
Rick