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On Thu, 19 Mar 2015 10:11:07 -0700 (PDT), Justisaur
<just...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, March 19, 2015 at 3:52:10 AM UTC-7, DMP wrote:
>> On 3/18/2015 7:40 PM, Ross Ridge wrote:
>> > Justisaur  <just...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Seriously, get an SSD.  It's amazing.  If you use Intel Smart Response you
>> >> don't need to worry about what you're putting where, and seems to be nearly
>> >> fast for most things.  It's not just for booting.  It's every time you load
>> >> anything.  It's not just a little improvement, it's like night and day.
>> >> I'd skimp on anything else to get an SSD.
>> > I wouldn't necessarily skimp on everything else, but yah an SSD makes a
>> > big difference in the overall performance of the PC.  Nothing else make
>> > your PC seem faster.  You can get an hard disk as well to keep the price
>> > down while still giving you a lot of storage for bulk things like photos
>> > and videos.
>> >
>> > 						Ross Ridge
>> >
>> Rin mentioned that the SSD's get slower with time due to "the number of 
>> writes that slowly damage the memory over time". I didn't want to get in 
>> a situation like I had three computers ago. I got a custom built job 
>> that came with two IBM "Deathstars" both of which failed. My bad for not 
>> doing the research then. I do hold on to my systems for a goodly amount 
>> of time, so reliability and longevity are important. The only thing I've 
>> ever had failed were disk drives, two IBM's and a Seagate
>> 
>> I am not familiar with Intel Smart Response, but will familiarize myself 
>> with it before any ordering takes place.
>> 
>> I have confidence in the builder and they will tell me what their 
>> experience has been with SSD v. mechanical particularly with their 
>> gaming towers. There isn't much difference in the cost of an  250 gb SSD 
>> and 1TB WD Black. There also must be a reason why most of the gaming 
>> computer builders are adding SSD's to their configurations. The smaller 
>> SSD's are getting to be close in price to the larger mechs.
>> 
>> I appreciate all the help and suggestions. Thanks again.
>>
>
>SSD Endurance Experiment:
>
>http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/15/03/12/184222/endurance-experiment-kills-six-ssds-over-18-months-24-petabytes
>
>No noticeable slowdown, first to die lasted through 700 TB of writes.
>
>You don't even need a particularly large one to take advantage of ISR.  You do need to make sure your MB, CPU & SSD (Intel only I think) are all compatible with ISR to use it.  There's some other alternatives similar to ISR, but I'm not as familiar with them.  Or you can buy a hybrid drive, which should be similar in performance, but I haven't verified that with research.
>
>On the HD front I'd agree to avoid Seagate.  I prefer WD, but didn't see any particular issues with Hitachi when we were using them at work.  WD has had a couple major blunders over the years with certain drives, but in general has been more reliable.
>
>- Justisaur


I'd encourage anyone interested in the subject of SSD performance
diminishing over time to do their own research here, using multiple
sources.  Some of the issue can be mitigated by simply getting a
larger than necessary SSD, but then the price premium becomes a
deterrent for many gaming rigs.

I just can't recommend a 250GB primary SSD drives if the goal is
gaming performance, particularly since after the OS and application
files use the space they need, there wouldn't be a lot of space left
for games on that drive anyway.  A 250GB SSD would be my hardware
choice for a typical laptop.