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Article #720305Re: Diablo 3
From: Xocyll
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 20:12
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 20:12
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Gerry Quinn <ger...@gmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say: >In article <8vj5e9dfnggcd1bqf...@4ax.com>, Xoc...@gmx.com >says... > >> Would you want to play an RPG that's as scaled back (in RPG terms) as >> Skyrim, if it only had 8-bit graphics? >> >> That's the problem with a lot of freeware stuff, old school graphics >> without the old school content that would make those graphics endurable. > > >I wouldn't expect much of freeware games. Spiderweb still sells their >old-school games - lots of people buy them. Oh I know they do, but as I noted previously, isometric RPGs aren't particularly immersive and certainly would never be an "Even better" system then the Elder Scrolls has. Their games look like they're from the 80s, and while some people like that old school look, I don't and I never found that kind of game immersive. How can you, you aren't IN the world, you're looking down on a party that's in the world. Xocyll >MMX Legacy is out now, granted they seem to have put plenty of art into >it, but the gameplay is old-school. Well screenies make it look fairly advanced graphically, but it's party based. I played some of the early Might and Magic games, and Dungeon Master2 and the Eye of the Beholder series, they were fun, but they were never immersive the way Ultima Underworld or Arena was. I'm one person, I can role play one character, where I do all the moves not a party where I click on a key and the character makes an attack of some kind or picks a lock or defuses a trap or whatever. Maybe if I had MPD I could get immersed in that, but I doubt it, since it would still be that one step removed from me doing anything in game. Party games should be isometric, since placement of the characters matters when making attacks (or at least it does in the good ones.) 3d is good for single character games with high immersion, where you ARE the character. 3d with a party is the worst of all worlds, except for one example - Betrayal at Krondor, and that only because when combat initiated, the game went from 3d to isometric, then back to 3d after combat finished. Xocyll
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