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"Matt v3.3" <ethers.tragic@paradise.net.invalid> looked up from reading
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signs say:

>On 16/05/2013 10:49 a.m., Justisaur wrote:
>>> Afraid I have nothing to recommend to Justisaur; I'm still working
>>> on BG2 (stalled at Watchers Keep) and NWN1 original campaign
>>> (actually finding it not too bad, or at least my expectations were
>>> low after all these years of people trashing it, but I like it well
>>> enough. Guess it appeals to my OCD streak ;D )
>>
>> I never did finish BG1, of course I was pissed off at the change
>> from turned based to 'real time with pause' and found travel so
>> annoying I eventually hacked boots of speed for all my party, and it
>> still wasn't enough. I hear there's some good mods to modernize it a
>> bit though.
>
>Well, the default walking speed in BG2 was made a little bit faster than 
>BG1 (although not boots of speed level ;-P ), so I guess you were not 
>the only one annoyed. And yes, if you play with either mod of BG Easy 
>Tutu or BG Trilogy, you get all the other benefits of BG2 like better UI 
>and more character classes/kits.
>
>BG2 areas feel a bit tighter and more combat focused though; there is 
>less wandering about exploring the aimless wilderness. Rather a bit more 
>closer to IWD series, though not quite that linear.
>
>I would probably rank BG1 as my least favorite of the five IE games, 
>just because the others improved upon it so dramatically.
>
>> I know BG2 is supposed to be better than BG1, but couldn't bring
>> myself to play it never having finished 1.  Sure I loved the party
>> member banter "Stop Touching Me!" and "Go for the Eyes, Boo!"
>>
>> NWN wasn't that bad, though I found their implementation of magic
>> annoying and poor (being a huge PnP D&D player),
>
>Fortunately I'm playing a stealthy Rogue/Assassin type and therefore not 
>even bothering with the magic system, aside from casting the odd scroll. 
>I do enjoy setting traps and ambushing the enemies... The only thing 
>that annoys me is the damned amount of undead and other creatures that 
>are *immune* to my sneak attacks - why so many(!?)

Because they couldn't just punish the mages - obviously they have a
fighter bias.

>> Also thinking about revisiting some older games, FO2, Bloodlines
>
>Speaking of not playing games out of order, I kind of feel I should play 
>VTM: Redemption before I get to Bloodlines, but it does look a bit 
>different style of game. (Anyone out there think it worth playing?)

I always liked it and have replayed it more times than I've replayed
Bloodlines.   It's a bit more "Epic" since it starts in the days of the
Crusades and finishes in the modern day.
It's more "on rails" though since it's telling a story and you don't get
to pick your own character - you are Christof, a Crusader and you become
Brujah.

You can replay Bloodlines immediately playing another character with
another bloodline, while Redemption is a "replay next year" kind of game
(if you liked it the first time.)

I've played Redemption multiple times over several years, Bloodlines I
played, I think 3 times, all back-to-back within a 1-2 month period.

Make sure you get Werner's patches for Bloodlines they fix and improve
the game sooooooo much.

Oh and if you do play Redemption, search each area _thoroughly_ or
you'll miss stuff you may wish you had later.

Xocyll
-- 
I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of 
a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably, 
Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So 
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